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| Started by | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-10-17 23:04 +1100 |
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gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 23:04 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 05:15 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 10:12 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:23 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:27 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 05:54 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:20 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 06:06 -0700
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:21 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-18 21:53 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 09:13 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-19 22:06 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-20 13:28 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-21 20:16 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-21 23:47 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-22 11:32 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 00:58 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 04:11 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 07:34 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 21:18 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 10:01 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 21:56 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:04 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 22:17 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:41 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-24 21:50 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-25 09:57 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-25 22:07 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 10:07 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-26 21:59 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 10:46 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 02:41 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 15:17 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 23:38 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-29 14:18 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-29 21:15 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-30 09:11 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:30 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 08:40 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:52 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 09:49 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-31 21:35 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-01 12:53 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-02 22:11 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-03 10:36 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-05 21:33 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-06 14:16 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-06 21:33 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-07 11:08 +1100
Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-07 20:43 +0000
Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-08 08:00 +1100
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-23 10:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f54mahFgrk1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61609 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:osj1ub$13km$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>> >>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>> >>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>> >>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>> >>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>> >>>>> Yes they can, >>>> >>>> Nope, not from mine. >> >>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >> >> Nope, I don?t. > So it's only trust that causes you to believe > that they can't and don't read your mail? Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >> >> Same for me. >>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>> >>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>> >>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>> >>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>> >>>>>>> Possibly, >>>> >>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>> >>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>> >>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>> >>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>> >>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >> >>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >> >> They've never called me and presumably would >> email you if they get no response or suspend >> your paypal until the phone answers. > Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). Calling is no proof of identity either. > Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >> >> Nope. >> >>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice anonymously. >> >> They've never called me, so it isnt. > > But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email > address. Nope. > I'll shop elsewhere. And get a worse result when you are that stupid.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-23 21:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <osloi2$1f63$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61611 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>> >>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>> >>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>> >>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>> >>> Nope, I don?t. > >> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >> that they can't and don't read your mail? > > Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any > advertising based on something in my gmail emails. I'd want some more concrete proof that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>> >>> Same for me. >>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>> >>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>> >>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>> >>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>> >>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>> >>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>> >>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>> >>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>> >>> They've never called me and presumably would >>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>> your paypal until the phone answers. > >> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). > > Calling is no proof of identity either. It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when you got it. >> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. > > Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended > because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for > cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed > that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. > >>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>> >>> Nope. >>> >>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice anonymously. >>> >>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >> >> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >> address. > > Nope. > >> I'll shop elsewhere. > > And get a worse result when you are that stupid. Plenty of options for free Email are out there, many far less invasive both when setting up and when using. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-24 09:04 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f577auF4f31U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61638 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:osloi2$1f63$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>> >>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>> >>>> Nope, I don?t. >> >>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >> >> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. > > I'd want some more concrete proof > that they can't/don't read my emails. You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. What you may or may not want in spades. I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don’t read mine and send me any advertising based on what they find in the emails and I wouldn’t care if they did anyway. I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and I couldn’t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>> >>>> Same for me. >>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>> >>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>> >>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>> >>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >> >>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >> >> Calling is no proof of identity either. > > It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when > you got it. > >>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >> >> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >> >>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>> anonymously. >>>> >>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>> >>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >>> address. >> >> Nope. >> >>> I'll shop elsewhere. >> >> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. > Plenty of options for free Email are out there, None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. > many far less invasive both when setting up and when using. Even sillier than you usually manage, and that’s saying something.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-23 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61642 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes they can,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I don?t.
>>>
>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe
>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail?
>>>
>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any
>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails.
>>
>> I'd want some more concrete proof
>> that they can't/don't read my emails.
>
> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant.
>
> What you may or may not want in spades.
>
> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t
> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they
> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway.
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed
> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and
> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid
> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care.
>
>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same for me.
>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information
>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Possibly,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and
>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm
>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone
>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your
>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on,
>>>>>
>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would
>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend
>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers.
>>>
>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call).
>>>
>>> Calling is no proof of identity either.
>>
>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when
>> you got it.
>>
>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid.
>>>
>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended
>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for
>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed
>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that.
>>>
>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice
>>>>>> anonymously.
>>>>>
>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt.
>>>>
>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email
>>>> address.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>> I'll shop elsewhere.
>>>
>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid.
>
>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there,
>
> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering.
Filter it yourself if you need it that much.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-24 09:41 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f579h2F4uejU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61645 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>> >>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>> >>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>> >>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >> >> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >> >> What you may or may not want in spades. >> >> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed >> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and >> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid >> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >> >>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>>>> >>>>>> Same for me. >>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>>>> >>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>>>> >>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >>>> >>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >>>> >>>> Calling is no proof of identity either. >>> >>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when >>> you got it. >>> >>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >>>> >>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>>> >>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>>>> anonymously. >>>>>> >>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>>>> >>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >>>>> address. >>>> >>>> Nope. >>>> >>>>> I'll shop elsewhere. >>>> >>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. >> >>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there, >> >> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. > > Filter it yourself if you need it that much. Not even possible to do that anything like as well as gmail does. THEY get to see who dumps loads of identical shit into the system. No individual ever does.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-24 21:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61649 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>> >>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>> >>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>> >>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>> >>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>> >>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>> >>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed >>> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and >>> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid >>> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >>> >>>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same for me. >>>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >>>>> >>>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >>>>> >>>>> Calling is no proof of identity either. >>>> >>>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when >>>> you got it. >>>> >>>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >>>>> >>>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >>>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >>>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >>>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>>>> >>>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>>>>> anonymously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>>>>> >>>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >>>>>> address. >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>>> I'll shop elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. >>> >>>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there, >>> >>> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. >> >> Filter it yourself if you need it that much. > > Not even possible to do that anything like as well as gmail does. > > THEY get to see who dumps loads of identical shit into the system. > > No individual ever does. That's why there are spam block lists made publicly available. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-25 09:57 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f59uqaFnsfnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61668 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>> >>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>> >>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>> >>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>> >>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>> >>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. > > So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? The stuff that’s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed >>>> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and >>>> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid >>>> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >>>> >>>>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Same for me. >>>>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >>>>>> >>>>>> Calling is no proof of identity either. >>>>> >>>>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when >>>>> you got it. >>>>> >>>>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >>>>>> >>>>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >>>>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >>>>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >>>>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>>>>>> anonymously. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >>>>>>> address. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll shop elsewhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. >>>> >>>>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there, >>>> >>>> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. >>> >>> Filter it yourself if you need it that much. >> >> Not even possible to do that anything like as well as gmail does. >> >> THEY get to see who dumps loads of identical shit into the system. >> >> No individual ever does. > > That's why there are spam block lists made publicly available. gmail does a lot better than that.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-25 22:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <osr1u7$edg$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61676 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>> >>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>> >>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>> >>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >> >> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? > > The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed >>>>> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and >>>>> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid >>>>> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Same for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>>>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>>>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calling is no proof of identity either. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when >>>>>> you got it. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >>>>>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >>>>>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >>>>>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>>>>>>> anonymously. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email >>>>>>>> address. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll shop elsewhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. >>>>> >>>>>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there, >>>>> >>>>> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. >>>> >>>> Filter it yourself if you need it that much. >>> >>> Not even possible to do that anything like as well as gmail does. >>> >>> THEY get to see who dumps loads of identical shit into the system. >>> >>> No individual ever does. >> >> That's why there are spam block lists made publicly available. > > gmail does a lot better than that. OK, if you insist. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-26 10:07 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5cjpkFc4ttU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61695 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:osr1u7$edg$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>> >>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>> >>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>> >>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>> >>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>> >>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >> >> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. > > You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. Don’t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>> I do get some ads showing up in facebook after I have followed >>>>>> a link in a usenet link for say a yorkshire fitting or something and >>>>>> I couldn?t care less about that and its completely trivial to avoid >>>>>> seeing any ads like that anyway if I did care. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Same for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed >>>>>>>>>>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pigs arse it is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone >>>>>>>>>>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be >>>>>>>>>>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your >>>>>>>>>>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough >>>>>>>>>>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They've never called me and presumably would >>>>>>>>>> email you if they get no response or suspend >>>>>>>>>> your paypal until the phone answers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Calling is no proof of identity either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's linked to your identity if you didn't cheat the system when >>>>>>> you got it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never happened to me. I have had a debit card suspended >>>>>>>> because of what StGeorge said was suspicious activity for >>>>>>>> cents. They claimed to have tried to call me, but they stuffed >>>>>>>> that up somehow. No record of them ever doing that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice >>>>>>>>>>> anonymously. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They've never called me, so it isnt. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your >>>>>>>>> Email >>>>>>>>> address. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll shop elsewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And get a worse result when you are that stupid. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Plenty of options for free Email are out there, >>>>>> >>>>>> None anything like as good with automatic spam filtering. >>>>> >>>>> Filter it yourself if you need it that much. >>>> >>>> Not even possible to do that anything like as well as gmail does. >>>> >>>> THEY get to see who dumps loads of identical shit into the system. >>>> >>>> No individual ever does. >>> >>> That's why there are spam block lists made publicly available. >> >> gmail does a lot better than that. > > OK, if you insist. You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-26 21:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ostlrt$vji$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61700 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>> >>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>> >>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>> >>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >> >> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. > > Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. So Google do it? Then you don't know whether they read it first themselves, or leave a backdoor in the encryption. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-27 10:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5fafmFragU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61720 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ostlrt$vji$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>> >>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>> >>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>> >>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>> >>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >> >> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. > > So Google do it? Nope. > Then you don't know whether they read it first > themselves, or leave a backdoor in the encryption. Since it aint google, I know that doesn’t happen and I know the operation that does it can't even do it either, as the FBI discovered.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-28 02:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ot0qnq$80c$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61725 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>> >>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>> >>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>> >>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>> >>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >> >> So Google do it? > > Nope. So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then forwards them to you/others unencrypted? Possible, but borderline pointless. It can't work with the incoming Email to your Usenet Email address because that goes directly to the gmail.com domain. >> Then you don't know whether they read it first >> themselves, or leave a backdoor in the encryption. > > Since it aint google, I know that doesn?t > happen and I know the operation that does > it can't even do it either, as the FBI discovered. If you have to use a whole other service just so that your Email provider doesn't read your Emails, that's a decent reason not to go with that Email provider on it's own. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-28 15:17 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5ienrFmf81U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61747 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ot0qnq$80c$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>> >>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>> >>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>> >>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>> >>> So Google do it? >> >> Nope. > > So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts > and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then > forwards them to you/others unencrypted? Nope. > Possible, but borderline pointless. Having fun thrashing yet another straw man ? > It can't work with the incoming Email to your Usenet Email address Never said it did. > because that goes directly to the gmail.com domain. Duh. >>> Then you don't know whether they read it first >>> themselves, or leave a backdoor in the encryption. >> Since it aint google, I know that doesn?t >> happen and I know the operation that does >> it can't even do it either, as the FBI discovered. > If you have to use a whole other service just so that your > Email provider doesn't read your Emails, that's a decent > reason not to go with that Email provider on it's own. Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you don’t have a fucking clue about what I am doing.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-28 23:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61756 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly don?t >>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>> >>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>> >>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>> >>>> So Google do it? >>> >>> Nope. >> >> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? > > Nope. So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-29 14:18 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5kvjgF9j47U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61785 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>> >>>>> So Google do it? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>> >>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >> >> Nope. > > So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted > by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the > way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? Never ever said anything even remotely like that. Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-29 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ot5gd4$1mn6$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61800 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>> >>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>>> >>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>> >>> Nope. >> >> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? > > Never ever said anything even remotely like that. > > Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. and it's not encrypted by Google's computer: >>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. and no other computer processes it on the way: >>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>> >>> Nope. but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-30 09:11 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5n21cFohq7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61810 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ot5gd4$1mn6$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>> >>>> Nope. >>> >>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >> >> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >> >> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. > > So it's not encrypted by your computer: Never said that.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-30 21:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ot85mg$1v78$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61813 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>> >>>>> Nope. >>>> >>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>> >>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>> >>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >> >> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >> > Never said that. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. If it is encrypted by your computer, but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to them), that does nothing to make sure that Google can't see all your Email data. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-31 08:40 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f5pkiaFc9s8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61821 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:ot85mg$1v78$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. >>>>> >>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>> >>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>> >>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>> >>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>> >> Never said that. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. > > If it is encrypted by your computer, Never said that. > but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to > them), Never said that either. > that does nothing to make sure that Google can't see all your Email data. Even sillier than you usually manage, and that’s saying something.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-10-30 21:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ot86ue$20a$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #61823 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:ot34d5$178$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osock1$5gq$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:oslpp8$1hrr$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes they can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, not from mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's only trust that causes you to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't and don't read your mail? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, its fact that they have never ever sent me any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising based on something in my gmail emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want some more concrete proof >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they can't/don't read my emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have always been completely and utterly irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you may or may not want in spades. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that they can't, I JUST said that they clearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don?t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read mine and send me any advertising based on what they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find in the emails and I wouldn?t care if they did anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they can't do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt EVERYTHING, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what bits of your Emails do you know they can't read? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The stuff that?s encrypted auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You said that you didn't use end-to-end encryption. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don?t need to when its done auto, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So Google do it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So there's some man-in-the-middle service that encrypts >>>>>>>> and decrypts things before/after they get to Google, then >>>>>>>> forwards them to you/others unencrypted? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. >>>>>> >>>>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer, and it's not encrypted >>>>>> by Google's computer, and no other computer processes it on the >>>>>> way, but it is encrypted when it gets stored on Google's servers? >>>>> >>>>> Never ever said anything even remotely like that. >>>>> >>>>> Keep furiously digging that hole you have dug for yourself, again. >>>> >>>> So it's not encrypted by your computer: >>>> >>> Never said that. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encryption, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, I don?t. >> >> If it is encrypted by your computer, > > Never said that. > >> but it's not end-to-end encryption (Google decrypts it once it gets to >> them), > > Never said that either. So did you not say that Google, or any man-in-the-middle service, are not responsible for encrypting it either? Therefore, given that you apparently never denied that your computer encrypts the data using end-to-end encryption, this must be the method you use to prevent Google from reading all your Email data. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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