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gmail now officially stink

Started byPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
First post2017-10-17 23:04 +1100
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  gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 23:04 +1100
    Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 05:15 +1100
      Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 10:12 +1100
        Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:23 +1100
          Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 14:27 +1100
            Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 05:54 +1100
              Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:20 +1100
      Re: gmail now officially stink jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-10-18 06:06 -0700
        Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 13:21 +1100
    Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-18 21:53 +0000
      Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-19 09:13 +1100
        Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-19 22:06 +0000
          Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-20 13:28 +1100
          Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-21 20:16 +1100
            Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-21 23:47 +0000
              Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-22 11:32 +1100
                Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 00:58 +0000
                  Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 04:11 +1100
                    Re: gmail now officially stink Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 07:34 +1100
                    Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-22 21:18 +0000
                      Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-23 10:01 +1100
                        Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 21:56 +0000
                          Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:04 +1100
                            Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-23 22:17 +0000
                              Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-24 09:41 +1100
                                Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-24 21:50 +0000
                                  Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-25 09:57 +1100
                                    Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-25 22:07 +0000
                                      Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 10:07 +1100
                                        Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-26 21:59 +0000
                                          Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 10:46 +1100
                                            Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 02:41 +0000
                                              Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 15:17 +1100
                                                Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-28 23:38 +0000
                                                  Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-29 14:18 +1100
                                                    Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-29 21:15 +0000
                                                      Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-30 09:11 +1100
                                                        Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:30 +0000
                                                          Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 08:40 +1100
                                                            Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-30 21:52 +0000
                                                              Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 09:49 +1100
                                                                Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-10-31 21:35 +0000
                                                                  Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-01 12:53 +1100
                                                                    Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-02 22:11 +0000
                                                                      Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-03 10:36 +1100
                                                                        Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-05 21:33 +0000
                                                                          Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-06 14:16 +1100
                                                                            Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-06 21:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-07 11:08 +1100
                                                                                Re: gmail now officially stink not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-11-07 20:43 +0000
                                                                                  Re: gmail now officially stink "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-11-08 08:00 +1100

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#61530 — gmail now officially stink

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-17 23:04 +1100
Subjectgmail now officially stink
Message-ID<n5rbuclq8s7bt6ql759p2b36kkaqjbfkvq@4ax.com>
gmail bounce/block messages 
not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
Message blocked
Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked. See
technical details below for more information.

Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable

so crap off to find a reliable email provider
http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
-- 
Petzl

I am trying to make friends outside. of Facebook 
while applying the same pnciples. 
Therefore, every day I walk down the street 
and tell passers-by what I have eat how I feel at the moment, what I have done the night before, what I will do later and with whom. 
I give them pictures of my family, my dog and of me gardening,
 taking things apart in the garage, watering the lawn, standing
 in front of landmarks, driving around town, having lunch and doing
 what anybody and everybody does every day. 
I also listen to their conversations, give them the "thumbs up" 
and tell them I like them. 
And it works just like Facebook! 
I already have four people following me: two police officers, a private investigator and a psychiatrist. 

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#61532

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-18 05:15 +1100
Message-ID<f4mvmrFb11eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61530
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote 

> gmail bounce/block messages 

They don't block any of mine. 

> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
> Message blocked
> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked. 
> See technical details below for more information.

Never happened to me. 
 
> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
 
> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
 

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#61534

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-18 10:12 +1100
Message-ID<ld3duc5vtnpkadqi5p2bp73i485jopcjmr@4ax.com>
In reply to#61532
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:15:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote 
>
>> gmail bounce/block messages 
>
>They don't block any of mine. 
>
They have with me twice now both abuse reports that contained text
headers and bodies, suspect the read the mail by BOT and getting
flagged

>> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
>> Message blocked
>> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked. 
>> See technical details below for more information.
>
>Never happened to me. 
> 
do you report spam? or just delete

>> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
>> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
> 
>> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
>> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
> 
-- 
Petzl
ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" 
*LAST*, Federal State and Council! 
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia. 

I was looking over into next-door's garden 
when i saw my neighbour Mohammed and his wife,
 burying their daughter up to her neck and 
about to throw rocks at her head.

Anyway, i called the police 
and i'm happy to say that Australia's justice has prevailed
I've been charged with religious intolerance and Islamophobia.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/4904313/far-right-trio-convicted-fined-2000-each-over-mosque-protest/?cs=3674

For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam 
https://is.gd/bunwYB 

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#61536

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-18 14:23 +1100
Message-ID<f4nvpdFhtifU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61534

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ld3duc5vtnpkadqi5p2bp73i485jopcjmr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:15:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> gmail bounce/block messages
>>
>>They don't block any of mine.
>>
> They have with me twice now both abuse reports that contained text
> headers and bodies, suspect the read the mail by BOT and getting
> flagged
>
>>> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
>>> Message blocked
>>> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked.
>>> See technical details below for more information.
>>
>>Never happened to me.
>>
> do you report spam? or just delete

Never get any with gmail.

>>> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
>>> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
>>
>>> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
>>> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
 

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#61537

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-18 14:27 +1100
Message-ID<ceiduc1si3rpqc5qu4i5rjakkrf3ktv9ca@4ax.com>
In reply to#61536
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:23:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:ld3duc5vtnpkadqi5p2bp73i485jopcjmr@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:15:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> gmail bounce/block messages
>>>
>>>They don't block any of mine.
>>>
>> They have with me twice now both abuse reports that contained text
>> headers and bodies, suspect the read the mail by BOT and getting
>> flagged
>>
>>>> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
>>>> Message blocked
>>>> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked.
>>>> See technical details below for more information.
>>>
>>>Never happened to me.
>>>
>> do you report spam? or just delete
>
>Never get any with gmail.

They do a good job of sorting spam from ham
but I report spam from the spam folder
>
>>>> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
>>>> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
>>>
>>>> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
> 

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#61542

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-19 05:54 +1100
Message-ID<f4pmagFu74bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61537

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ceiduc1si3rpqc5qu4i5rjakkrf3ktv9ca@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:23:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ld3duc5vtnpkadqi5p2bp73i485jopcjmr@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:15:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> gmail bounce/block messages
>>>>
>>>>They don't block any of mine.
>>>>
>>> They have with me twice now both abuse reports that contained text
>>> headers and bodies, suspect the read the mail by BOT and getting
>>> flagged
>>>
>>>>> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
>>>>> Message blocked
>>>>> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked.
>>>>> See technical details below for more information.
>>>>
>>>>Never happened to me.
>>>>
>>> do you report spam? or just delete
>>
>>Never get any with gmail.
>
> They do a good job of sorting spam from ham
> but I report spam from the spam folder

Presumably their system has decided you
are a spammer and is blocking your spam.

>>>>> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
>>>>> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
>>>>
>>>>> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
>> 

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#61549

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-19 13:20 +1100
Message-ID<lq2gucdl11mup587j8v7oba5nec5c2dc76@4ax.com>
In reply to#61542
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 05:54:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:ceiduc1si3rpqc5qu4i5rjakkrf3ktv9ca@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:23:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ld3duc5vtnpkadqi5p2bp73i485jopcjmr@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 05:15:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> gmail bounce/block messages
>>>>>
>>>>>They don't block any of mine.
>>>>>
>>>> They have with me twice now both abuse reports that contained text
>>>> headers and bodies, suspect the read the mail by BOT and getting
>>>> flagged
>>>>
>>>>>> not the first time but have sent abuse reports before
>>>>>> Message blocked
>>>>>> Your message to abuse [at] nl.leaseweb.com has been blocked.
>>>>>> See technical details below for more information.
>>>>>
>>>>>Never happened to me.
>>>>>
>>>> do you report spam? or just delete
>>>
>>>Never get any with gmail.
>>
>> They do a good job of sorting spam from ham
>> but I report spam from the spam folder
>
>Presumably their system has decided you
>are a spammer and is blocking your spam.
>
That's what I think
Gmail have "fixed" something not broken
Rarely send from that address if I do it is to report spammers
http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
>>>>>> Were getting hammered by Chinese botnet spam after receiving 30 during
>>>>>> night Gmail disabled account but did send a message to re-enable
>>>>>
>>>>>> so crap off to find a reliable email provider
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
>>> 
-- 
Petzl

I am trying to make friends outside. of Facebook 
while applying the same pnciples. 
Therefore, every day I walk down the street 
and tell passers-by what I have eat how I feel at the moment, what I have done the night before, what I will do later and with whom. 
I give them pictures of my family, my dog and of me gardening,
 taking things apart in the garage, watering the lawn, standing
 in front of landmarks, driving around town, having lunch and doing
 what anybody and everybody does every day. 
I also listen to their conversations, give them the "thumbs up" 
and tell them I like them. 
And it works just like Facebook! 
I already have four people following me: two police officers, a private investigator and a psychiatrist. 

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#61541

Fromjonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-18 06:06 -0700
Message-ID<65126baa-2e1c-4de6-b7dc-f22cb0bb200d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#61532
Been with gmail for years. Zero issues.

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#61550

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-19 13:21 +1100
Message-ID<kv2gucp0pafm1b4p4u8bck4jh71g8oo92v@4ax.com>
In reply to#61541
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:06:44 -0700 (PDT), jonz
<johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> wrote:

>Been with gmail for years. Zero issues.

So have I having issues now though?
Gmail have latley "fixed" something not broken
http://tinyurl.com/Problem-solving-flowchart
-- 
Petzl

I am trying to make friends outside. of Facebook 
while applying the same pnciples. 
Therefore, every day I walk down the street 
and tell passers-by what I have eat how I feel at the moment, what I have done the night before, what I will do later and with whom. 
I give them pictures of my family, my dog and of me gardening,
 taking things apart in the garage, watering the lawn, standing
 in front of landmarks, driving around town, having lunch and doing
 what anybody and everybody does every day. 
I also listen to their conversations, give them the "thumbs up" 
and tell them I like them. 
And it works just like Facebook! 
I already have four people following me: two police officers, a private investigator and a psychiatrist. 

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#61545

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-10-18 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<os8ig5$4oh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#61530
I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, and wants to
know lots of personal information just to set up an account, in
the first place.

-- 
__          __
#_ < |\| |< _#

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#61547

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-19 09:13 +1100
Message-ID<f4q20pF2dc4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61545
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 

> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 

Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 

> and wants to know lots of personal information 
> just to set up an account, in the first place.

Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  

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#61553

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-10-19 22:06 +0000
Message-ID<osb7l5$9u7$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#61547
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
> 
>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
> 
> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 

I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, the NSA,
etc. to read everything too.

>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
> 
> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  

Possibly, but it wanted a phone number from me, and that's
the sort of thing they use to confirm that you're not giving
them fake details.

-- 
__          __
#_ < |\| |< _#

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#61558

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-20 13:28 +1100
Message-ID<lfniuchud3i2rdkcea4mgt7outej0cfsle@4ax.com>
In reply to#61553
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:06:30 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

>Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>> 
>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
>> 
>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 
>
>I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, the NSA,
>etc. to read everything too.
>
>>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
>> 
>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  
>
>Possibly, but it wanted a phone number from me, and that's
>the sort of thing they use to confirm that you're not giving
>them fake details


mines a burner from Caltex

Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed
71-75 Wangee Road 
Lakemba NSW 2195
-- 
Petzl

I am trying to make friends outside. of Facebook 
while applying the same pnciples. 
Therefore, every day I walk down the street 
and tell passers-by what I have eat how I feel at the moment, what I have done the night before, what I will do later and with whom. 
I give them pictures of my family, my dog and of me gardening,
 taking things apart in the garage, watering the lawn, standing
 in front of landmarks, driving around town, having lunch and doing
 what anybody and everybody does every day. 
I also listen to their conversations, give them the "thumbs up" 
and tell them I like them. 
And it works just like Facebook! 
I already have four people following me: two police officers, a private investigator and a psychiatrist. 

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#61580

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-21 20:16 +1100
Message-ID<f50hjuFhlokU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61553
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
 
>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
 
>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 
 
> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, 
> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.

Nope, they can't do that. 
 
>>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
 
>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  
 
> Possibly, 

No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. 

> but it wanted a phone number from me, and 
> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm 
> that you're not giving them fake details.

Pigs arse it is.  

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#61589

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-10-21 23:47 +0000
Message-ID<osgmai$19tt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#61580
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
> 
>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
> 
>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 
> 
>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, 
>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
> 
> Nope, they can't do that. 

Yes they can, Google use it to provide targeted ads for one
thing.

>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
> 
>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  
> 
>> Possibly, 
> 
> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. 
> 
>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and 
>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm 
>> that you're not giving them fake details.
> 
> Pigs arse it is.

Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone number I gave
them to confirm that it was mine.

-- 
__          __
#_ < |\| |< _#

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#61593

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-22 11:32 +1100
Message-ID<f5279cFtpt9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61589
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
 
>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
 
>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 
 
>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, 
>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
 
>> Nope, they can't do that. 
 
> Yes they can, 

Nope, not from mine. 

> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.

Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. 
 
>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
 
>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  
 
>>> Possibly, 
 
>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. 
 
>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and 
>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm 
>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
 
>> Pigs arse it is.
 
> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone 
> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.

Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
able to get a burner number you can use for your
fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.  

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#61596

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-10-22 00:58 +0000
Message-ID<osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#61593
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote 
> 
>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail, 
> 
>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail. 
> 
>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google, 
>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
> 
>>> Nope, they can't do that. 
> 
>> Yes they can, 
> 
> Nope, not from mine. 

Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption, but
that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve.

>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.
> 
> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me. 
>
>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information 
>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
> 
>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.  
> 
>>>> Possibly, 
> 
>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact. 
> 
>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and 
>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm 
>>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
> 
>>> Pigs arse it is.
> 
>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone 
>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.
> 
> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
> able to get a burner number you can use for your
> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.  

They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later
on, so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just
in case. Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Email
service anonymously.

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#61606

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-23 04:11 +1100
Message-ID<f541qtFc4jtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#61596

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail,
>>
>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>
>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>
>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>
>>> Yes they can,
>>
>> Nope, not from mine.

> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption,

Nope, I don’t.

> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve.

Same for me.

>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.
>>
>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me.
>>
>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information
>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
>>
>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.
>>
>>>>> Possibly,
>>
>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact.
>>
>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and
>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm
>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
>>
>>>> Pigs arse it is.
>>
>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone
>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.
>>
>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>> able to get a burner number you can use for your
>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.

> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on,

They've never called me and presumably would
email you if they get no response or suspend
your paypal until the phone answers.

> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case.

Nope.

> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice anonymously.

They've never called me, so it isnt. 

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#61608

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2017-10-23 07:34 +1100
Message-ID<rdvpucd6lai17js69sssn3fa9fn8cgoi8l@4ax.com>
In reply to#61606
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:11:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail,
>>>
>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>
>>>> Yes they can,
>>>
>>> Nope, not from mine.
>
>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption,
>
>Nope, I don’t.
>
>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve.
>
>Same for me.
>
>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.
>>>
>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me.
>>>
>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information
>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
>>>
>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.
>>>
>>>>>> Possibly,
>>>
>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact.
>>>
>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and
>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm
>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
>>>
>>>>> Pigs arse it is.
>>>
>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone
>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.
>>>
>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your
>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.
>
>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on,
>
>They've never called me and presumably would
>email you if they get no response or suspend
>your paypal until the phone answers.
>
>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case.
>
>Nope.
>
>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice anonymously.
>
>They've never called me, so it isnt. 

All was fine with me till DoS attacked?
About 30 Botnet spams in succession caused Gmail to disable my account
They did email my back-up account 
But this to me means Gmail is unreliable
They now block (after disabling) abuse reports to these IP's I always
show the IP that is infected and proof it is
https://www.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi
 The Chinese though condone Botnets, Cyber-Criminals pay the Chinese
to allow Botnet operations.
https://www.spamlaws.com/china-spam.html
-- 
Petzl 
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason 
 is like administering medicine to the dead. 

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#61609

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-10-22 21:18 +0000
Message-ID<osj1ub$13km$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#61606
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:osgqgi$1et5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>> I refuse to use an Email service that reads my mail,
>>>
>>>>>>> Its free to read mine that I do with gmail.
>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure it is. But it's also free for Google,
>>>>>> the NSA, etc. to read everything too.
>>>
>>>>> Nope, they can't do that.
>>>
>>>> Yes they can,
>>>
>>> Nope, not from mine.
> 
>> Well I suppose you could be using end-to-end encryption,
> 
> Nope, I don?t.

So it's only trust that causes you to believe that they can't and
don't read your mail?

>> but that wouldn't cater for many incoming Emails that I recieve.
> 
> Same for me.
>>>> Google use it to provide targeted ads for one thing.
>>>
>>> Not from mine. NOT ONE of the things I have ever discussed
>>> in my gmail email has EVER produced a targeted ad for me.
>>>
>>>>>>>> and wants to know lots of personal information
>>>>>>>> just to set up an account, in the first place.
>>>
>>>>>>> Trivial to give it fake info. Same with facebook etc.
>>>
>>>>>> Possibly,
>>>
>>>>> No possibly about it, absolutely certainly in fact.
>>>
>>>>>> but it wanted a phone number from me, and
>>>>>> that's the sort of thing they use to confirm
>>>>>> that you're not giving them fake details.
>>>
>>>>> Pigs arse it is.
>>>
>>>> Ebay (or maybe it was PayPal) called the phone
>>>> number I gave them to confirm that it was mine.
>>>
>>> Even terminal fuckwit such as yourself should be
>>> able to get a burner number you can use for your
>>> fake details, if someone was actually stupid enough
>>> to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.
> 
>> They didn't call me when I registered, they called me later on,
> 
> They've never called me and presumably would
> email you if they get no response or suspend
> your paypal until the phone answers.

Email is no proof of identity on it's own (hence why they call).
Suspended PayPal (or Email) is something I'd want to avoid.

>> so I'd have to keep that number permanently active just in case.
> 
> Nope.
> 
>> Seems like a lot of trouble just to use a free Emailservice anonymously.
> 
> They've never called me, so it isnt. 

But if they ever do try to call, you might have to change your Email
address. I'll shop elsewhere.

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