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| Started by | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-09-20 15:05 +1000 |
| Last post | 2017-09-22 14:24 +1000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 362 — 15 participants |
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New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 15:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-20 13:15 +0800
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 16:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-20 17:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 20:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Lucifer Morningstar <not@for.mail> - 2017-09-23 15:50 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Lucifer Morningstar <not@for.mail> - 2017-09-23 15:47 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 16:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-20 16:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 02:56 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 17:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 21:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 06:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 19:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 04:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 20:07 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 12:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 04:18 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:06 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:09 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:31 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 18:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 06:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 23:33 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 06:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 16:19 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 07:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 08:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 17:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 19:56 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 17:35 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 18:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 09:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 20:04 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 11:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 00:58 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:28 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 09:40 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-22 13:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 21:54 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:28 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 13:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:52 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 18:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 20:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 21:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 19:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 11:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 11:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 14:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 19:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-24 21:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 07:25 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 03:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 13:29 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 06:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 16:45 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-24 22:54 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 18:44 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-25 10:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-25 00:25 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 19:46 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-24 22:41 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 13:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 17:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 18:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 17:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:13 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 13:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 16:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:00 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 23:05 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 15:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 05:35 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 19:35 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 14:58 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 13:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 15:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 16:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 17:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 07:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 19:01 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 19:42 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 14:01 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 16:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 04:18 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 05:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 07:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 09:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 10:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:01 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:55 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 14:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 15:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 17:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 17:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 19:30 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 14:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-28 19:18 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:28 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 03:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-09-29 19:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-29 18:48 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 17:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 07:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 10:09 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 10:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 19:44 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-27 01:14 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-27 03:37 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 11:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 23:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 23:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 18:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 19:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 20:57 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 06:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:17 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 10:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 11:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 12:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 16:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 11:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 16:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 19:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 19:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:43 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 11:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 14:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 17:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 08:10 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 13:44 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 11:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:10 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:31 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 18:27 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:46 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 14:32 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 14:43 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 14:50 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 15:08 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 16:35 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 19:55 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 07:14 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 20:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 16:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 17:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 18:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 20:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 06:21 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 07:33 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 13:46 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 17:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 11:34 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 16:49 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:48 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 16:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 16:41 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:55 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 17:16 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 08:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 19:42 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 11:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:48 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 23:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 21:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-09-29 16:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 17:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 19:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 11:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 20:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:50 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-22 18:07 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 13:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-23 10:08 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 20:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-23 10:33 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 21:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-22 20:43 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 07:47 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 13:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 23:01 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 23:36 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 09:17 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-24 12:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 09:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-25 17:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:09 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-26 16:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 14:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-27 20:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 23:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-23 18:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 20:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 12:47 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 20:03 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 11:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 13:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 13:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 14:24 +1000
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-01 13:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <pvk0tc9etv65kpklt9ednfvd221bav39sf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #61374 |
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 08:10:47 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote: >On 30/09/2017 5:45 PM, Fran wrote: >> On 30/09/2017 2:16 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>> Fran wrote: >>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel >>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is >>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up ofmy >>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if we >>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. Have >>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>> the op >>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>>> such things >>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>> people say. >>>> >>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>> >>> I have a set against Bowral too, I was in for observation (suspected >>> stroke, false alarm)and was discharged at midnight (would not let me >>> stay in bed till morning) all they would do was arrange a taxi for me >>> that would cost me $130.00 so I sat in an uncomfortable chair in >>> casualty till morning and caught a train to Tahmoor >> >> That is absolutely bloody disgraceful!!!!! I hope you wrote several >> outraged letters to the Hospital and the local papers. > >That absolutely stinks I would of been onto the local members as well. >I've got a few horror stories about my kids and the paediatric ward at >Bowral, I think it has now been revamped. Luckily my family have private >insurance so head straight to the Private but they don't cater for kids. > Don't take much for a hospital to get bad press a lot can go wrong when you go inside. Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample So went to the Bowral Hotel for bangers and mash with a beer excellent heres a shot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLBDPR2UMAAbNBl.jpg -- Petzl "To Be A Politician You Need Three Things. Be a Good Liar, A Great Cheat and a Brilliant Thief." Malcolm Turnbull The new coward fence around Parliament house only shows they are afraid of the very people they are supposed to represent... Malcolm applied to be a Senator for the Lobor party https://spectator.com.au/2017/01/turnbulls-labor-dream/ Its time for Malcolm to kick some arse....his own!!! Australian MPs now among the highest paid in the world http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-mps-now-among-the-highest-paid-in-the-world/story-fncynjr2-1226681596923 https://is.gd/nOyfr9 Turnbull draing the swamp! http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/cc61ccd180d35f931bae6ced5e4febaf?width=1024 ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" *LAST*, Federal State and Council! Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia. For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam https://is.gd/bunwYB
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 11:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f3ddv3Fl8miU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61375 |
"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:pvk0tc9etv65kpklt9ednfvd221bav39sf@4ax.com... > On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 08:10:47 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>On 30/09/2017 5:45 PM, Fran wrote: >>> On 30/09/2017 2:16 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>> Fran wrote: >>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don't use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>> that's why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>> Have >>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>> the op >>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>>>> such things >>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>> people say. >>>>> >>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>> >>>> I have a set against Bowral too, I was in for observation (suspected >>>> stroke, false alarm)and was discharged at midnight (would not let me >>>> stay in bed till morning) all they would do was arrange a taxi for me >>>> that would cost me $130.00 so I sat in an uncomfortable chair in >>>> casualty till morning and caught a train to Tahmoor >>> >>> That is absolutely bloody disgraceful!!!!! I hope you wrote several >>> outraged letters to the Hospital and the local papers. >> >>That absolutely stinks I would of been onto the local members as well. >>I've got a few horror stories about my kids and the paediatric ward at >>Bowral, I think it has now been revamped. Luckily my family have private >>insurance so head straight to the Private but they don't cater for kids. >> > Don't take much for a hospital to get bad press a lot can go wrong > when you go inside. > > Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 Interesting watching them break up the team and load them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. > I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves theirs for dead. > So went to the Bowral Hotel for bangers and mash with a beer excellent I don't bother with full meals during the day, just at night. > heres a shot > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLBDPR2UMAAbNBl.jpg Didn't take any myself. No doubt there are some on facebook. The was a drone there at the grand parade etc and they do a better job than I do in the crowd with everyone else doing it.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 13:10 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <hp73tc91c98gan8c05j29e74drt2qrlnqc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #61382 |
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:01:31 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:pvk0tc9etv65kpklt9ednfvd221bav39sf@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 08:10:47 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>On 30/09/2017 5:45 PM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 2:16 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don't use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>> that's why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>>>>> such things >>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>> people say. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>> >>>>> I have a set against Bowral too, I was in for observation (suspected >>>>> stroke, false alarm)and was discharged at midnight (would not let me >>>>> stay in bed till morning) all they would do was arrange a taxi for me >>>>> that would cost me $130.00 so I sat in an uncomfortable chair in >>>>> casualty till morning and caught a train to Tahmoor >>>> >>>> That is absolutely bloody disgraceful!!!!! I hope you wrote several >>>> outraged letters to the Hospital and the local papers. >>> >>>That absolutely stinks I would of been onto the local members as well. >>>I've got a few horror stories about my kids and the paediatric ward at >>>Bowral, I think it has now been revamped. Luckily my family have private >>>insurance so head straight to the Private but they don't cater for kids. >>> >> Don't take much for a hospital to get bad press a lot can go wrong >> when you go inside. >> >> Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. > >I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. >Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just >right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, >the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. >http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 > >Interesting watching them break up the team and load >them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just >a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop >them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. > >That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about >where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. > >> I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample > >They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves >theirs for dead. > >> So went to the Bowral Hotel for bangers and mash with a beer excellent > >I don't bother with full meals during the day, just at night. > >> heres a shot >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLBDPR2UMAAbNBl.jpg > >Didn't take any myself. No doubt there are some on facebook. >The was a drone there at the grand parade etc and they do a >better job than I do in the crowd with everyone else doing it. I enjoy these outings myself, caught a bus then by train very enjoyable, don't eat much my self but lunch time were peckish and wanted a beer (camera set for summer time hour ahead), -- Petzl Same Sex Marriage It is ok to vote no. "two blokes and a cocker spaniel don't make a family" You'll never believe why the Army sacked this decorated intelligence officer https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 13:31 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <gOCdnX1xecaQOEzEnZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61386 |
snip > I enjoy these outings myself, caught a bus then by train very > enjoyable, Those community groups do a great job taking those in homes on outings. Did nursie make you a nice cappuccino in the morning before you got picked up? don't eat much my self but lunch time were peckish and > wanted a beer (camera set for summer time hour ahead), Of course it was
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 18:27 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <u3l3tcli9en8h1u9narbaioj8s5sv78f0m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #61387 |
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 13:31:28 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote: >snip > >> I enjoy these outings myself, caught a bus then by train very >> enjoyable, > >Those community groups do a great job taking those in homes on outings. >Did nursie make you a nice cappuccino in the morning before you got >picked up? > Bus stops outside my place and 5 minutes to train station Buses have a beeper on them which sends info to tracing APP in real time of when bus is comming >>don't eat much my self but lunch time were peckish and >> wanted a beer (camera set for summer time hour ahead), > >Of course it was Of course -- Petzl You're not being tolerant. You're not being inclusive. You're not being open-minded... You're being conquered." https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ-4y-3UMAAVWQD.jpg Italian immigration was an advance point for Australia, followed by Greek immigration, then Asian all provided positive growth, benefits. The failure has and is Moslem immigration where over 30 years they are planted in West Sydney it is a proven disaster which is forbidden to be spoken about. Reality is This is a Islamic invasion/war by Stealth! Moslems are also history killers and twist historical facts and truth they call taqiyya kitman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya Facts are:- This Trojan horse invasion by Moslems was invented by Mohammed when he and his marauding followers fled Mecca in AD 622 to Yathrib now called Medina. Claiming “refugee status” Medina welcomed them as “our” government does today! ISIS is doing nothing that the Moslem’s “Prophet” Mohammed wouldn’t do! http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html Mohammad himself was once a (claimed) refugee taken in by the Jewish run city of Medina, then called Yathrib (fleeing Mecca AD 622). https://www.britannica.com/event/Hijrah-Islam Within five years, Mohammed (joining with other invading “marauding refugees”) had driven out, executed, or enslaved every Jew living in Medina https://www.britannica.com/place/Medina-Saudi-Arabia For around 1,400 years Islam has produced the major majority of the worlds “refugees”! Always fleeing from what they created! Still the same today! This Trojan horse invasion continues WHY? Moslems and Islam are of course synonymous with terror! It was and is a CRIME to allow Moslems in. Every politician is obligated to know the history of foreign people they bring in. If they had done even a little bit of study they would have found a bloodthirsty people, full of hate and terrorism.? Mohammad invented this sort of invasion by stealth, Centuries old still used today. The success of thier blood lust carnage is that Moslem have made their Calender year begining AD 622 "Our" repomse is to declare a war on "terror"? 1: You can’t declare war on a tactic – TERROR. 2: You can’t win if the “Good Guys” your soldiers are dying for are just a different type of bad guy. 3: You can’t win if you promote the problem – ISLAM. 4: And you can’t win overseas if you are losing at home https://youtu.be/6CS1R1SAjBE
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 13:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <1amdnZBPaY8SNUzEnZ2dnUU7-Uli4p2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61382 |
On 2/10/2017 11:01 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:pvk0tc9etv65kpklt9ednfvd221bav39sf@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 08:10:47 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 30/09/2017 5:45 PM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 2:16 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don't use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>> that's why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing >>>>>>>>>> up ofmy >>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>> they do >>>>>>> such things >>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>> people say. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>> >>>>> I have a set against Bowral too, I was in for observation (suspected >>>>> stroke, false alarm)and was discharged at midnight (would not let me >>>>> stay in bed till morning) all they would do was arrange a taxi for me >>>>> that would cost me $130.00 so I sat in an uncomfortable chair in >>>>> casualty till morning and caught a train to Tahmoor >>>> >>>> That is absolutely bloody disgraceful!!!!! I hope you wrote several >>>> outraged letters to the Hospital and the local papers. >>> >>> That absolutely stinks I would of been onto the local members as well. >>> I've got a few horror stories about my kids and the paediatric ward at >>> Bowral, I think it has now been revamped. Luckily my family have private >>> insurance so head straight to the Private but they don't cater for kids. >>> >> Don't take much for a hospital to get bad press a lot can go wrong >> when you go inside. >> >> Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. > > I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. > Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just > right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, > the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. > http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 > > > Interesting watching them break up the team and load > them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just > a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop > them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. > > That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about > where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. Would of loved to have seen that. They have an old codger at Robertson show who used to use a team to get timber with his Dad. He only brings 6 along but absolutely brilliant to watch him work with them. Robo is one of the old best old style shows around and Yes you could pat the bullocks and he even rides one through the crowds > >> I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample > > They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves > theirs for dead. Robo was where I stunningly won Best Beer
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| From | Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 14:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <oqsc0q$78r$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61388 |
On 2/10/2017 1:46 PM, de chucka wrote: Robo is one > of the old best old style shows around My family has a very long association with it. Right from its start and even up to today.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 14:43 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <tMqdnQVfmOiVK0zEnZ2dnUU7-dHNnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61389 |
On 2/10/2017 2:32 PM, Fran wrote: > On 2/10/2017 1:46 PM, de chucka wrote: > > Robo is one >> of the old best old style shows around > > My family has a very long association with it. Right from its start and > even up to today. Not as long as your association but my kids are 4th generation riders at Robo, on my wife's side. Even appeared in a Highlife magazine article, I'm sure they only take so many photos so you buy it to see if the kids are in it
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| From | Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 14:50 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <oqsd21$ct9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61390 |
On 2/10/2017 2:43 PM, de chucka wrote: > On 2/10/2017 2:32 PM, Fran wrote: >> On 2/10/2017 1:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >> >> Robo is one >>> of the old best old style shows around >> >> My family has a very long association with it. Right from its start and >> even up to today. > > > Not as long as your association but my kids are 4th generation riders at > Robo, on my wife's side. Even appeared in a Highlife magazine article, > I'm sure they only take so many photos so you buy it to see if the kids > are in it Yep. Our name for it is "The Lowlife".
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 15:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <xeKdnf4AjKNzJkzEnZ2dnUU7-N_NnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61391 |
On 2/10/2017 2:50 PM, Fran wrote: > On 2/10/2017 2:43 PM, de chucka wrote: >> On 2/10/2017 2:32 PM, Fran wrote: >>> On 2/10/2017 1:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>> >>> Robo is one >>>> of the old best old style shows around >>> >>> My family has a very long association with it. Right from its start and >>> even up to today. >> >> >> Not as long as your association but my kids are 4th generation riders >> at Robo, on my wife's side. Even appeared in a Highlife magazine >> article, I'm sure they only take so many photos so you buy it to see >> if the kids are in it > > Yep. Our name for it is "The Lowlife". Must say I've got a large collection, 4 kids with riding, formals, other sports etc. Hate to add up the cost of them all :-( >
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| From | Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 16:35 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <oqsj73$aub$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61392 |
On 2/10/2017 3:08 PM, de chucka wrote: > On 2/10/2017 2:50 PM, Fran wrote: >> On 2/10/2017 2:43 PM, de chucka wrote: >>> On 2/10/2017 2:32 PM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 2/10/2017 1:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>> >>>> Robo is one >>>>> of the old best old style shows around >>>> >>>> My family has a very long association with it. Right from its start >>>> and >>>> even up to today. >>> >>> >>> Not as long as your association but my kids are 4th generation riders >>> at Robo, on my wife's side. Even appeared in a Highlife magazine >>> article, I'm sure they only take so many photos so you buy it to see >>> if the kids are in it >> >> Yep. Our name for it is "The Lowlife". > > Must say I've got a large collection, 4 kids with riding, formals, other > sports etc. Hate to add up the cost of them all :-( I still have no. 1 Volume 1. It's a bit addictive and it's interesting to watch how many times the houses change hands and get new kitchens. (or go stale on the market for asking far too much for them). I think the record I've noticed so far was 5 new kitchens in 8 years. Such unbelievable wankers that have moved there over the years. BTW, I realised that I probably would recognise your wife's family name just as she would probably recognise mine.....
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 19:55 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f3ed8hFrp09U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61388 |
"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1amdnZBPaY8SNUzEnZ2dnUU7-Uli4p2d@westnet.com.au... > On 2/10/2017 11:01 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:pvk0tc9etv65kpklt9ednfvd221bav39sf@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 08:10:47 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/09/2017 5:45 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 2:16 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don't use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing >>>>>>>>>>> up ofmy >>>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>> such things >>>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>>> people say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I have a set against Bowral too, I was in for observation (suspected >>>>>> stroke, false alarm)and was discharged at midnight (would not let me >>>>>> stay in bed till morning) all they would do was arrange a taxi for me >>>>>> that would cost me $130.00 so I sat in an uncomfortable chair in >>>>>> casualty till morning and caught a train to Tahmoor >>>>> >>>>> That is absolutely bloody disgraceful!!!!! I hope you wrote several >>>>> outraged letters to the Hospital and the local papers. >>>> >>>> That absolutely stinks I would of been onto the local members as well. >>>> I've got a few horror stories about my kids and the paediatric ward at >>>> Bowral, I think it has now been revamped. Luckily my family have >>>> private >>>> insurance so head straight to the Private but they don't cater for >>>> kids. >>>> >>> Don't take much for a hospital to get bad press a lot can go wrong >>> when you go inside. >>> >>> Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. >> >> I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. >> Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just >> right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, >> the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. >> http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 >> >> >> Interesting watching them break up the team and load >> them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just >> a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop >> them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. >> >> That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about >> where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. > Would of loved to have seen that. Yeah, one of the most interesting I have been to in a long time. > They have an old codger at Robertson show who used to use a team to get > timber with his Dad. He only brings 6 along but absolutely brilliant to > watch him work with them. Yeah, planning to find some more and go much further to attend. > Robo is one of the old best old style shows around and Yes you could pat > the bullocks and he even rides one through the crowds We also had the clydesdales, 8 pulling a horse drawn combine, but not actually harvesting a crop due to the time of year etc. And a dog fella doing a very interesting run thru with his kelpies and some sheep, with a very clear spelling out of the different personalitys of his dogs, doing the same thing one by one with each dog. Fascinating. Would have been even more interesting to see the same thing with huntaways and collies, but they did have that. >>> I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample >> They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves >> theirs for dead. > > Robo was where I stunningly won Best Beer Guess I should get off my arse and get involved in that too. Ours was yesterday too, but only the one day now.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-03 07:14 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <n775tc5ipu9fpje8oq21obcmv8kjasb6h9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #61396 |
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 19:55:36 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. >>> >>> I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. >>> Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just >>> right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, >>> the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. >>> http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 >>> >>> >>> Interesting watching them break up the team and load >>> them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just >>> a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop >>> them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. >>> >>> That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about >>> where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. > >> Would of loved to have seen that. > >Yeah, one of the most interesting I have been to in a long time. > >> They have an old codger at Robertson show who used to use a team to get >> timber with his Dad. He only brings 6 along but absolutely brilliant to >> watch him work with them. > >Yeah, planning to find some more and go much further to attend. > >> Robo is one of the old best old style shows around and Yes you could pat >> the bullocks and he even rides one through the crowds > >We also had the clydesdales, 8 pulling a horse drawn combine, >but not actually harvesting a crop due to the time of year etc. > >And a dog fella doing a very interesting run thru with his kelpies >and some sheep, with a very clear spelling out of the different >personalitys of his dogs, doing the same thing one by one with >each dog. Fascinating. > >Would have been even more interesting to see the same >thing with huntaways and collies, but they did have that. > >>>> I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample > >>> They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves >>> theirs for dead. >> >> Robo was where I stunningly won Best Beer > >Guess I should get off my arse and get involved in that too. > >Ours was yesterday too, but only the one day now. Looks positively brilliant. https://youtu.be/czKa-zF_Kdc Riverina Tourism Barellan Working Clydesdales is an educational weekend for the whole family, showcasing early farming practices with Clydesdales, vintage farm machinery and bullocks. For more information and other Taste Riverina Festival events visit http://www.tasteriverina.com.au/. -- Petzl
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-03 20:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f3h1v5Fg4pcU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61397 |
"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:n775tc5ipu9fpje8oq21obcmv8kjasb6h9@4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 19:55:36 +1100, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> >>>>> Went to the Tulip festival by train yesterday good display big crowd.. >>>> >>>> I went to Barellan for the Clydesdales and bullock teams yesterday. >>>> Perfect weather, thought it was gunna be a tad cool but it was just >>>> right, not a cloud in the sky. Immense bullock team, 36 bullocks, >>>> the biggest in the entire country this century apparently. >>>> http://www.areanews.com.au/story/4958474/all-ages-come-together-for-barellans-good-old-days/?cs=670 >>>> >>>> >>>> Interesting watching them break up the team and load >>>> them into the trucks at the end, with quite literally just >>>> a run of string up one side of the loading ramp to stop >>>> them heading off the ramp. Almost as obedient as dogs. >>>> >>>> That event is so old fashioned that you are welcome to walk about >>>> where they are breaking up the team and watch them do it. >> >>> Would of loved to have seen that. >> >>Yeah, one of the most interesting I have been to in a long time. >> >>> They have an old codger at Robertson show who used to use a team to get >>> timber with his Dad. He only brings 6 along but absolutely brilliant to >>> watch him work with them. >> >>Yeah, planning to find some more and go much further to attend. >> >>> Robo is one of the old best old style shows around and Yes you could pat >>> the bullocks and he even rides one through the crowds >> >>We also had the clydesdales, 8 pulling a horse drawn combine, >>but not actually harvesting a crop due to the time of year etc. >> >>And a dog fella doing a very interesting run thru with his kelpies >>and some sheep, with a very clear spelling out of the different >>personalitys of his dogs, doing the same thing one by one with >>each dog. Fascinating. >> >>Would have been even more interesting to see the same >>thing with huntaways and collies, but they did have that. >> >>>>> I'm afraid didn't think much of the food wine/beer on sample >> >>>> They did have the Barellan Beer on tap but I didn't bother, mine leaves >>>> theirs for dead. >>> >>> Robo was where I stunningly won Best Beer >> >>Guess I should get off my arse and get involved in that too. >> >>Ours was yesterday too, but only the one day now. > > Looks positively brilliant. > https://youtu.be/czKa-zF_Kdc Yeah, and that's 2 years ago. Last year wasn't great weather wise, this year was absolutely perfect weather wise for both days and with double the size bullock train this year. > Riverina Tourism > Barellan Working Clydesdales is an educational weekend for the whole > family, showcasing early farming practices with Clydesdales, vintage > farm machinery and bullocks. > For more information and other Taste Riverina Festival events visit > http://www.tasteriverina.com.au/. > -- > Petzl
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 16:46 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <UvCdnTv-o7dwoFLEnZ2dnUU7-fnNnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61358 |
On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: > On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >> Fran wrote: >>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>> Fran wrote: >>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>> >>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>> >>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel >>>>> went >>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>> >>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is >>>>> so I >>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up ofmy >>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind you, >>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>> temps. >>>>> >>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree (button) :) >>> >>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if we >>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. Have >>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had the op >>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>> >> >> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >> such things >> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >> people say. > > A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. > That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat
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| From | Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 17:46 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <oqni4m$lp3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61365 |
On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: > On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>> Fran wrote: >>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>> >>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel >>>>>> went >>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>> >>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is >>>>>> so I >>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up ofmy >>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind you, >>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>> temps. >>>>>> >>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>> (button) :) >>>> >>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if we >>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. Have >>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had the op >>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>> >>> >>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>> such things >>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>> people say. >> >> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >> > > > That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they > didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph > Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of choice.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 18:05 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <uqidnW2ghoP-zVLEnZ2dnUU7-U3NnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61367 |
On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: > On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>> Fran wrote: >>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel >>>>>>> went >>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is >>>>>>> so I >>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up ofmy >>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>> you, >>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>> (button) :) >>>>> >>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if we >>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. Have >>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>> the op >>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>> such things >>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>> people say. >>> >>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>> >> >> >> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat > > That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of > choice. > It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong
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| From | FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 20:12 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #61368 |
de chucka wrote: > On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel >>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is >>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if we >>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. Have >>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>> the op >>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>>> such things >>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>> people say. >>>> >>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>> >>> >>> >>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >> >> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >> choice. >> > > It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is > still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex services business is done there now as far as I know.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-01 06:21 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f3a95tFtl98U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61371 |
"FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... > de chucka wrote: >> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do if >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>> Have >>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>> the op >>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me yet, I >>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if they do >>>>>> such things >>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>> people say. >>>>> >>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>> >>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >>> choice. >>> >> >> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is >> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong > > I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name but > was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex services > business is done there now as far as I know. There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam etc.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-01 07:33 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <E8ednbNACKEsYlLEnZ2dnUU7-TednZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61372 |
On 1/10/2017 6:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... >> de chucka wrote: >>> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>> they do >>>>>>> such things >>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>> people say. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>>> >>>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >>>> choice. >>>> >>> >>> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is >>> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong >> >> I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name >> but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex >> services business is done there now as far as I know. > > There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical > services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam etc. True but that is irrelevant to what was stated
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