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| Started by | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-09-20 15:05 +1000 |
| Last post | 2017-09-22 14:24 +1000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 362 — 15 participants |
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New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 15:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-20 13:15 +0800
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 16:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-20 17:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 20:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Lucifer Morningstar <not@for.mail> - 2017-09-23 15:50 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Lucifer Morningstar <not@for.mail> - 2017-09-23 15:47 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 16:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-20 16:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 02:56 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 17:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 21:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 06:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 19:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-20 21:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 04:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 20:07 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 12:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 04:18 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:06 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:09 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:31 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 18:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 06:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 23:33 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 06:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 16:19 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 07:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 08:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 17:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 19:56 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 10:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 17:35 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 18:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 09:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-20 20:04 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 11:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 00:58 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 01:28 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 09:40 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-22 13:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 16:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-21 21:54 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 09:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:28 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 12:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 13:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:52 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 16:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 18:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 20:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 21:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 19:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 11:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 11:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 14:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 19:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-24 21:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 07:25 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 03:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 13:29 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 06:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 16:45 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-24 22:54 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 18:44 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-25 10:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-25 00:25 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 19:46 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-09-24 22:41 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 13:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 17:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 18:38 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 09:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 17:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:13 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 13:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 16:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 07:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 11:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:00 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 12:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-24 23:05 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 15:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 05:35 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 19:35 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 14:58 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 13:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 14:35 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 15:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 16:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-25 17:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 07:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-25 19:01 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 19:42 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 14:01 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 16:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 04:18 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 05:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 07:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 09:44 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 10:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:01 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:55 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 19:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 14:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 15:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 17:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 17:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 19:30 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 14:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-28 19:18 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:28 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 03:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-09-29 19:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-29 18:48 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 17:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 07:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 10:09 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 10:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-26 19:44 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-27 01:14 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 17:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-27 03:37 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 06:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 11:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:22 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 11:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 18:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 19:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 23:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 15:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 23:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 18:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 19:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 20:57 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 06:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:17 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 10:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 11:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 12:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:08 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 16:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:03 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 11:56 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 16:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 19:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:10 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 19:33 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:43 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 11:51 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 14:16 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 17:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 08:10 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 13:44 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 11:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:10 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:31 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 18:27 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 13:46 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 14:32 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 14:43 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 14:50 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 15:08 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-10-02 16:35 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 19:55 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 07:14 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 20:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 16:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 17:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 18:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 20:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 06:21 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 07:33 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-10-01 13:46 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-01 17:01 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 11:34 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-10-02 16:49 +1100
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:48 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 13:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 14:31 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:40 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:06 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 16:26 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:29 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 16:41 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 07:55 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 17:16 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-30 08:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-29 19:42 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 11:58 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:37 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:48 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-27 23:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-28 21:02 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 15:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-09-29 16:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 17:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 18:32 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 19:30 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-29 19:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-29 20:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-30 11:54 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 20:25 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 15:50 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:36 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-22 18:07 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 13:19 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-23 10:08 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 20:24 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-09-23 10:33 +0000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 21:49 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-22 20:43 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 07:47 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-23 06:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-23 13:39 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 23:01 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-22 23:36 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 09:17 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-24 12:07 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-24 09:04 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-24 09:14 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-25 17:42 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-25 18:09 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-26 16:23 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 14:59 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-27 15:27 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-27 20:11 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-27 23:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> - 2017-09-28 18:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:34 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-23 18:12 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 20:05 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 12:47 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:45 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:46 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-21 20:03 -0500
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:20 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 10:15 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 10:41 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 11:21 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 11:26 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 13:38 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 13:53 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-22 14:18 +1000
Re: New phone scam (at least to me) felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-22 14:24 +1000
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-10-01 13:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <9ll0tc9rn4gdav69o1g5olnm5739hap6mb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #61373 |
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 07:33:45 +1100, de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote: >On 1/10/2017 6:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... >>> de chucka wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>> such things >>>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>>> people say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>>>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>>>> >>>>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >>>>> choice. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is >>>> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong >>> >>> I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name >>> but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex >>> services business is done there now as far as I know. >> >> There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical >> services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam etc. > >True but that is irrelevant to what was stated A number of my VET friends I have seen in Hospital over the years all got excellent treatment -- Petzl Same Sex Marriage It is ok to vote no. "two blokes and a cocker spaniel don't make a family" You'll never believe why the Army sacked this decorated intelligence officer https://youtu.be/kbct75sVRXo
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| From | FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-01 17:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <59d0850d$0$28913$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #61372 |
Rod Speed wrote: > > > "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... >> de chucka wrote: >>> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>> they do >>>>>>> such things >>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>> people say. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>>> >>>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >>>> choice. >>>> >>> >>> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is >>> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong >> >> I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name >> but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex >> services business is done there now as far as I know. > > There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical > services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam etc. But they do not all go to concord now,Concord is a respected Major general hospital with a lower MRSA problem than some of the others
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 11:34 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <f3dfsqFll4oU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61381 |
"FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:59d0850d$0$28913$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com... > Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... >>> de chucka wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >>>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Mind >>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred >>>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>> such things >>>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list some >>>>>>>> people say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR Staph >>>>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>>>> >>>>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the luxury of >>>>> choice. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure it is >>>> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong >>> >>> I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name >>> but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex >>> services business is done there now as far as I know. >> >> There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical >> services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam >> etc. > > > But they do not all go to concord now, They never did. > Concord is a respected Major general hospital There was some shit about it recently. > with a lower MRSA problem than some of the others Sure, but there will always be some with a lower MRSA problem than others.
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| From | FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-02 16:49 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <59d1d389$0$57965$b1db1813$be7d459e@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #61385 |
Rod Speed wrote: > > > "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:59d0850d$0$28913$b1db1813$bfc93781@news.astraweb.com... >> Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>> >>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:59cf6e1d$0$9171$b1db1813$aa81cf8d@news.astraweb.com... >>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>> On 30/09/2017 5:46 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>> On 30/09/2017 4:46 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>> On 30/09/2017 11:51 AM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 8:43 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 7:10 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That isn't true >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> legionella >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contamination >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily occur >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, >>>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>>> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretzel >>>>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>>>> off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the >>>>>>>>>>>> water is >>>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>>> can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up >>>>>>>>>>>> ofmy >>>>>>>>>>>> pots and pans. I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. >>>>>>>>>>>> Mind >>>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>>> our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our >>>>>>>>>>>> preferred >>>>>>>>>>>> temps. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Need work on my cataract and any way I don't have a degree >>>>>>>>>>> (button) :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nah I don't have a degree button either but we probably both do >>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>> faff around with some of the settings relating to our keyboard. >>>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>>> you booked in for your cataract work? Everyone I know who's had >>>>>>>>>> the op >>>>>>>>>> says that suddenly the world is full of colour again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am having a spot of bother as my preferred hospital (Concord repat >>>>>>>>> where all my records are)does not seem to want to take my referal >>>>>>>>> because I have moved 80 kms away, they have not got back to me >>>>>>>>> yet, I >>>>>>>>> may have to pick between liverpool Campbelltown or Bowral (if >>>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>>> such things >>>>>>>>> Even then I may be up for a wait of two years on the free list >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> people say. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A friend of ours got a staph infection in Bowral. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is because the Public Hospital has an off-peak HWS lucky they >>>>>>> didn't get Legionella! Actually I think Concord is worse for MR >>>>>>> Staph >>>>>>> Aureus infection then Bowral but look at the patients they treat >>>>>> >>>>>> That is possibly fair enough. Vets sometimes don't have the >>>>>> luxury of >>>>>> choice. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is a tertiary burns referral unit so they're screwed. Not sure >>>>> it is >>>>> still a designated repat hospital but am probably wrong >>>> >>>> I am not a vet and it is a general hospital with a fairly good name >>>> but was always called repat by us oldies as it once was, very few ex >>>> services business is done there now as far as I know. >>> >>> There are still quite a few ex WW2 vets around, massive users of medical >>> services now, and lots of vets from wars since like Korea and Vietnam >>> etc. >> >> >> But they do not all go to concord now, > > They never did. > >> Concord is a respected Major general hospital > > There was some shit about it recently. They had a high MRSI rate a few years ago but they got it down. > >> with a lower MRSA problem than some of the others > > Sure, but there will always be some with a lower MRSA problem than others.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 19:48 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f36j8aF3if4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61314 |
"Fran" <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote in message news:oqkm59$frs$1@dont-email.me... > On 29/09/2017 1:21 PM, FMurtz wrote: >> de chucka wrote: >>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>> >>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>> >>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>> >>>> Legionella. >>> >>> but so will water at 60C >>> >>>> >>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>> >>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>> >>> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for legionella >>> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment contamination >>> can easily occur >>> >> But we were talking about 50% which some are set at, especially >> instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. > > You and I were talking about 50 DEGREES (not 50%) and then, Pretzel went > off in a different direction. Typical thread drift. > > I dunno about you, but I'm more interested in how warm the water is so I > can have a hot shower, or do a good hot load of hand washing up ofmy pots > and pans. Not stupid enough to do that stuff by hand. > I'm less concerned about bugs in my water. Yes, you are that stupid. > Mind you, our water is hot so there shouldn't be any bugs at our preferred > temps. You weren't actually stupid enough to have an undersized solar hot water system that sees the water fester at 30C or so and provide a perfect breeding ground for legionella.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 13:39 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f35tknFtbboU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61281 |
"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... > On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water heater. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> exacly >>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>> >>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn ourselves >>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>> >>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>> (chlorinated). >>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>> >>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>> 'disinfect' against? >> >> Legionella. > > but so will water at 60C Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. >>> Also over and above chlorination >> >> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >> that’s why you still get it in big citys. > That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up in your hot water service ever gets. > The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for legionella Yes, but so is hot water heaters that are deliberately run not hot enough so that even if a little kid turns on the hot water tap alone when unsupervised, they can't scald themselves. > sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment contamination > can easily occur Irrelevant to what temperature hot water needs to be to kill them, particularly with instant hot water heaters and solar hot water heaters that run out of hot water because fuckwits like you havent sized the damned things properly.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 14:31 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61300 |
On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>> >>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn ourselves >>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>> >>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>> >>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>> 'disinfect' against? >>> >>> Legionella. >> >> but so will water at 60C > > Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. Legionella is killed at 60C > >>>> Also over and above chlorination >>> >>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. > >> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ > > Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment > plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up > in your hot water service ever gets. My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything ###ateded
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 15:26 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f363t5F4enU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61305 |
"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au... > On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>> >>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>> >>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>> >>>> Legionella. >>> >>> but so will water at 60C >> >> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. > > Legionella is killed at 60C It aint that simple and most hot water services don’t run at that anymore anyway. And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water service properly and run out of hot water because they havent, don’t get anything like 60C anyway. >> >>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>> >>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >> >>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >> >> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >> in your hot water service ever gets. > > My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything So, when you are actually too stupid to have sized your solar hot water system properly, and it sits at 30C for hours, you are in fact taking a hell of a risk of legionella in the water from it.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 15:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <b-6dnaKSW9R4QVDEnZ2dnUU7-UXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61313 |
On 29/09/2017 3:26 PM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au... >> On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>> >>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>> >>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>> >>>>> Legionella. >>>> >>>> but so will water at 60C >>> >>> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. >> >> Legionella is killed at 60C > > It aint that simple and most hot water services > don’t run at that anymore anyway. > > And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water > service properly and run out of hot water because > they havent, don’t get anything like 60C anyway. but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed > >>> >>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>> >>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>> >>>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>> >>> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >>> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >>> in your hot water service ever gets. >> >> My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything > > So, when you are actually too stupid to have sized your solar > hot water system properly, and it sits at 30C for hours, It doesn't, during the day it gets heated as it does at night you are > in fact taking a hell of a risk of legionella in the water from it. What a joke you are. IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about it in potting mix or my water tanks
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 20:06 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f36kirF3sa7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61317 |
"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:b-6dnaKSW9R4QVDEnZ2dnUU7-UXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... > On 29/09/2017 3:26 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au... >>> On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>> >>>>>> Legionella. >>>>> >>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>> >>>> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. >>> >>> Legionella is killed at 60C >> >> It aint that simple and most hot water services >> don’t run at that anymore anyway. >> >> And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water >> service properly and run out of hot water because >> they havent, don’t get anything like 60C anyway. > > but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed >> >>>> >>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>> >>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>> >>>>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>> >>>> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >>>> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >>>> in your hot water service ever gets. >>> >>> My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything >> >> So, when you are actually too stupid to have sized your solar >> hot water system properly, and it sits at 30C for hours, > > It doesn't, during the day it gets heated as it does at night And once you stupidly run out of hot water in the evening, its at the ideal temp to breed legionella after that. >> you are in fact taking a hell of a risk of legionella in the water from >> it. > > What a joke you are. We'll see whose the joke. > IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about it in potting > mix Nothing even remotely like the risk with showering with water infested with legionella. > or my water tanks Indeed, you actually are that terminal a fuckwit.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 07:07 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <-9edncdxY59iKFPEnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61334 |
On 29/09/2017 8:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b-6dnaKSW9R4QVDEnZ2dnUU7-UXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >> On 29/09/2017 3:26 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>> >>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au... >>>> On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>> >>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>> >>>>> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. >>>> >>>> Legionella is killed at 60C >>> >>> It aint that simple and most hot water services >>> don’t run at that anymore anyway. >>> >>> And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water >>> service properly and run out of hot water because >>> they havent, don’t get anything like 60C anyway. >> >> but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed >>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>> >>>>>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>> >>>>> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >>>>> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >>>>> in your hot water service ever gets. >>>> >>>> My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything >>> >>> So, when you are actually too stupid to have sized your solar >>> hot water system properly, and it sits at 30C for hours, >> >> It doesn't, during the day it gets heated as it does at night > > And once you stupidly run out of hot water in the evening, > its at the ideal temp to breed legionella after that. lol > >>> you are in fact taking a hell of a risk of legionella in the water >>> from it. >> >> What a joke you are. > > We'll see whose the joke. > >> IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about it in >> potting mix > > Nothing even remotely like the risk with > showering with water infested with legionella. but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you follow how off peak hot water heating goes? > >> or my water tanks > > Indeed, you actually are that terminal a fuckwit. > > >
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 16:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnosteje.46s.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #61345 |
The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > > > And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water > > > > service properly and run out of hot water because > > > > they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. > > > > > > but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? > > > IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about > > > it in potting mix > > > > Nothing even remotely like the risk with > > showering with water infested with legionella. > > but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you follow > how off peak hot water heating goes? It "goes" on the national grid, you lying maggot.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 07:29 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <EZydnc9FC--xJlPEnZ2dnUU7-IWdnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61347 |
On 30/09/2017 7:26 AM, Ned Latham wrote: > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: >> The Rod Walloper wrote: >>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: >>>> The Rod Walloper wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water >>>>> service properly and run out of hot water because >>>>> they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. >>>> >>>> but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed > > Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? Sorry by off-peak I man that my HWS is boosted at the same time as off-peak is running in my area > >>>> IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about >>>> it in potting mix >>> >>> Nothing even remotely like the risk with >>> showering with water infested with legionella. >> >> but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you follow >> how off peak hot water heating goes? > > It "goes" on the national grid, you lying maggot. >
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 16:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnostfh6.47s.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #61348 |
The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water > > > > > > service properly and run out of hot water because > > > > > > they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. > > > > > > > > > > but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed > > > > Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? > > Sorry by off-peak I mean that my HWS is boosted at the same time as > off-peak is running in my area Yair, sure you do, Ruth. Boosted by what? > > > > > IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about > > > > > it in potting mix > > > > > > > > Nothing even remotely like the risk with > > > > showering with water infested with legionella. > > > > > > but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you follow > > > how off peak hot water heating goes? > > > > It "goes" on the national grid, you lying maggot.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 07:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <FNCdnalbBrXwXFPEnZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61349 |
On 30/09/2017 7:41 AM, Ned Latham wrote: > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: >> Ned Latham wrote: >>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: >>>> The Rod Walloper wrote: >>>>> The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: >>>>>> The Rod Walloper wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water >>>>>>> service properly and run out of hot water because >>>>>>> they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed >>> >>> Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? >> >> Sorry by off-peak I mean that my HWS is boosted at the same time as >> off-peak is running in my area > > Yair, sure you do, Ruth. Boosted by what? batteries, try and keep up
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 17:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnosthi1.4a6.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #61350 |
de chucka wrote in <FNCdnalbBrXwXFPEnZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>: > On 30/09/2017 7:41 AM, Ned Latham wrote: > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > > > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water > > > > > > > > service properly and run out of hot water because > > > > > > > > they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed > > > > > > > > Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? > > > > > > Sorry by off-peak I mean that my HWS is boosted at the same time as > > > off-peak is running in my area > > > > Yair, sure you do, Ruth. Boosted by what? > > batteries, try and keep up Read what you wrote above and below, you moron. > > > > > > > IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about > > > > > > > it in potting mix > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing even remotely like the risk with > > > > > > showering with water infested with legionella. > > > > > > > > > > but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you follow > > > > > how off peak hot water heating goes? > > > > > > > > It "goes" on the national grid, you lying maggot.
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 08:32 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <PrGdnTXRW6eTV1PEnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #61351 |
snip >>>> Sorry by off-peak I mean that my HWS is boosted at the same time as >>>> off-peak is running in my area >>> >>> Yair, sure you do, Ruth. Boosted by what? >> >> batteries, try and keep up > > Read what you wrote above and below, you moron. You're obviously very confused. Go back to bed and come down slower
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 19:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnostq3g.4gq.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #61352 |
The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > Ned Latham wrote: > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" wrote: > > > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > The lying coward who hides behind the alias "de chucka" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The Rod Walloper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water > > > > > > > > service properly and run out of hot water because > > > > > > > > they havent, don?t get anything like 60C anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed > > > > > > > > Offpeak? How do you manage that, Ruth? > > > > > > Sorry by off-peak I mean that my HWS is boosted at the same time > > > as > > > off-peak is running in my area > > > > Yair, sure you do, Ruth. Boosted by what? > > batteries, try and keep up Read what you wrote above and below, you moron. > > > > > > > IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > it in potting mix > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing even remotely like the risk with > > > > > > showering with water infested with legionella. > > > > > > > > > > but it isn't when I shower it has been heated. Can't you > > > > > follow > > > > > how off peak hot water heating goes? > > > > > > > > It "goes" on the national grid, you lying maggot.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-30 11:58 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <f38c31Fg6s4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61345 |
"de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:-9edncdxY59iKFPEnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@westnet.com.au... > On 29/09/2017 8:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:b-6dnaKSW9R4QVDEnZ2dnUU7-UXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>> On 29/09/2017 3:26 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mJCdnawjI-w_UVDEnZ2dnUU7-W8AAAAA@westnet.com.au... >>>>> On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water >>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Legionella. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but so will water at 60C >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Legionella is killed at 60C >>>> >>>> It aint that simple and most hot water services >>>> don’t run at that anymore anyway. >>>> >>>> And fuckwits that havent sized their solar hot water >>>> service properly and run out of hot water because >>>> they havent, don’t get anything like 60C anyway. >>> >>> but I don't run out I charge the HWS 'off-peak' if needed >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>>>>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >>>>>> >>>>>>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >>>>>> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >>>>>> in your hot water service ever gets. >>>>> >>>>> My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything >>>> >>>> So, when you are actually too stupid to have sized your solar >>>> hot water system properly, and it sits at 30C for hours, >>> >>> It doesn't, during the day it gets heated as it does at night >> >> And once you stupidly run out of hot water in the evening, >> its at the ideal temp to breed legionella after that. > > lol You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >>>> you are in fact taking a hell of a risk of legionella in the water >>>> from it. >>> >>> What a joke you are. >> >> We'll see whose the joke. >> >>> IF I was worried about legionella I'd be more worried about it in >>> potting mix >> >> Nothing even remotely like the risk with >> showering with water infested with legionella. >>> or my water tanks >> >> Indeed, you actually are that terminal a fuckwit. >> >> >> >
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| From | Fran <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2017-09-29 15:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <oqkm67$frs$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61305 |
On 29/09/2017 2:31 PM, de chucka wrote: > On 29/09/2017 1:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:No2dneFOzMhSGlDEnZ2dnUU7-RvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "de chucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>>> <franhatesnymshifters@loonynutters.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn >>>>>>> ourselves >>>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>>> >>>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>>> >>>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>>> 'disinfect' against? >>>> >>>> Legionella. >>> >>> but so will water at 60C >> >> Nope, and we arent talking about 60C anyway. > > Legionella is killed at 60C > >> >>>>> Also over and above chlorination >>>> >>>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >> >>> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >> >> Corse it is with chlorination in the original water treatment >> plant which is the only chlorination that water that ends up >> in your hot water service ever gets. > > My water isn't chlorinated or fluorinated or anything ###ateded Neither is ours :-))
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