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aint TPG/NBN just wonderful?

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First post2017-09-05 13:15 +1000
Last post2017-09-18 07:00 +0700
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  aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-05 13:15 +1000
    Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-05 13:21 +1000
      Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 15:38 +1000
        Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 13:19 +1000
          Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-07 14:59 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 16:09 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 16:35 +1000
          Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:11 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 16:08 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 16:21 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 16:56 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 17:16 +1000
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-07 20:48 +1000
                    Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 02:15 +1000
                      Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 10:47 +1000
                        Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 11:37 +1000
                          Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 12:22 +1000
                            Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 13:50 +1000
                              Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 14:59 +1000
                                Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:58 +1000
                                  Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 19:03 +1000
                                    Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 20:08 +1000
                                  Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed - got it working! felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 20:18 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN wifi just wonderful? attn: Rod Speed "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 17:06 +1000
    Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 15:37 +1000
    Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-08 13:19 +0800
      Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 15:58 +1000
        Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-08 14:16 +0800
          Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 16:43 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 17:04 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-08 17:07 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 18:31 +1000
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-08 19:27 +1000
                    Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 20:37 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-10 13:27 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-08 15:35 +0800
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-08 19:48 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 20:11 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 20:38 +1000
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-09 04:14 +1000
                    Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-09 13:30 +1000
                      Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-09 15:20 +1000
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-09 13:30 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 20:06 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 20:32 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-09 13:52 +0800
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 04:34 +1000
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-08 20:29 +1000
          Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-10 13:10 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-10 14:12 +1000
            Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-10 13:09 +0800
              Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-10 19:32 +1000
                Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2017-09-10 18:07 +0800
                  Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-11 04:14 +1000
      Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 20:00 +1000
    Re: aint TPG/NBN just wonderful? Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-18 07:00 +0700

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#60872

FromFMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
Date2017-09-09 13:30 +1000
Message-ID<59b36070$0$7688$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60869
Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
> news:f1fa9rF9v8aU4@mid.individual.net...
>> On 8/09/2017 7:48 PM, FMurtz wrote:
>>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>>> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get
>>>>>>> the MR
>>>>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their
>>>>>>> supplied
>>>>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>>>>> though you were with MR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>>>>>> especially if
>>>>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>>>>
>>>> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed
>>>> plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN
>>>> speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>>>>
>>>> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed
>>>> of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FTTP
>>>>>
>>>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>>>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>>>>
>>>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other and have
>>>> their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to get your
>>>> own hardware if possible , Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a
>>>> NBN connection.
>>>>
>>>> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan
>>>> tagging ,  you will need to enable  VLan = 2 on the modem .
>>>>
>>>> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their
>>>> modem.
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>> If you use MR with its modem you will get round 100 down with FTTP
>>> for $60.00 which you will not get with anyone else
>>
>>
>> except i'm pretty sure you've talked about losing the internet and
>> getting low speeds around 5mbps. and have you ever got 100mbps or
>> close to it?
>
> He can't get FTTP there.
He said he had FTTP.

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#60874

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-09 15:20 +1000
Message-ID<f1hc15Foa9qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60872

"FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:59b36070$0$7688$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:f1fa9rF9v8aU4@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 8/09/2017 7:48 PM, FMurtz wrote:
>>>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get
>>>>>>>> the MR
>>>>>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their
>>>>>>>> supplied
>>>>>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>>>>>> though you were with MR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems ,
>>>>>>> especially if
>>>>>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>>>>>
>>>>> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed
>>>>> plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN
>>>>> speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed
>>>>> of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FTTP
>>>>>>
>>>>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>>>>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other and 
>>>>> have
>>>>> their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to get your
>>>>> own hardware if possible , Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of 
>>>>> a
>>>>> NBN connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan
>>>>> tagging ,  you will need to enable  VLan = 2 on the modem .
>>>>>
>>>>> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their
>>>>> modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> If you use MR with its modem you will get round 100 down with FTTP
>>>> for $60.00 which you will not get with anyone else
>>>
>>>
>>> except i'm pretty sure you've talked about losing the internet and
>>> getting low speeds around 5mbps. and have you ever got 100mbps or
>>> close to it?
>>
>> He can't get FTTP there.
> He said he had FTTP.

I was talking about you there, not him. 

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#60871

FromFMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
Date2017-09-09 13:30 +1000
Message-ID<59b36043$0$7688$b1db1813$3686e031@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60868
felix wrote:
> On 8/09/2017 7:48 PM, FMurtz wrote:
>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get
>>>>>> the MR
>>>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their
>>>>>> supplied
>>>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>>>
>>>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>>>> though you were with MR.
>>>>>
>>>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>>>
>>> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed
>>> plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN
>>> speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>>>
>>> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed
>>> of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTTP
>>>>
>>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>>>
>>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other and have
>>> their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to get your
>>> own hardware if possible , Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a
>>> NBN connection.
>>>
>>> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan
>>> tagging ,  you will need to enable  VLan = 2 on the modem .
>>>
>>> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their
>>> modem.
>>>
>>> the
>>
>> If you use MR with its modem you will get round 100 down with FTTP for
>> $60.00 which you will not get with anyone else
>
>
> except i'm pretty sure you've talked about losing the internet and
> getting low speeds around 5mbps. and have you ever got 100mbps or close
> to it?
>
>
>
I don't have any where near the problems as I had with telstra,I only 
have FTTN which gives me fairly consistent 45 down but you have fibre to 
the house which is a different kettle of fish, but it looks like you may 
have missed the boat if rod is correct.(I tried to look it up on their 
site but they seem to have some specials and different deals on, but TV 
is still pushing $59 deal)
But if they have already sent you the modem you may still get the deal 
you had.
I have had problems with download speed of usenet headers and posts 
which seems better since the NBN mob fiddled that night but may not have 
anything to do with it. Do not remember saying anything about 5 down speeds.

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#60861

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-08 20:06 +1000
Message-ID<f1f8gnF9lumU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60855

"Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
news:Wf2dnVBnx47-1S_EnZ2dnUU7-bfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>
>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>> though you were with MR.
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>
>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>
> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed plan 
> be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN speed of 
> 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>
> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed of 
> adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>
>>>
>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FTTP
>>
>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all you 
> need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.

Not with MR, the router only costs you $1

> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other

The one MR supplys isnt.

> and have their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to get 
> your own hardware if possible ,

Pointless when the supplied router works fine.

> Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.

So does TPG and MR.

> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan 
> tagging ,  you will need to enable  VLan = 2 on the modem .

> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their modem.

His problem is that he's so stupid that he can't even manage
to work out how to enter the username and password in the
router that allows you to do that. 

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#60866

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-09-08 20:32 +1000
Message-ID<f1f9ubF9v8aU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60861
On 8/09/2017 8:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:Wf2dnVBnx47-1S_EnZ2dnUU7-bfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get 
>>>>> the MR
>>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their 
>>>>> supplied
>>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>>
>>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>>> though you were with MR.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>>
>>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>>
>>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>>
>> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed 
>> plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN 
>> speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>>
>> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max 
>> speed of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> FTTP
>>>
>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then 
>> all you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>
> Not with MR, the router only costs you $1
>
>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other
>
> The one MR supplys isnt.
>
>> and have their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best 
>> to get your own hardware if possible ,
>
> Pointless when the supplied router works fine.
>
>> Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.
>
> So does TPG and MR.
>
>> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan 
>> tagging ,  you will need to enable VLan = 2 on the modem .
>
>> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their 
>> modem.
>
> His problem is that he's so stupid that he can't even manage
> to work out how to enter the username and password in the
> router that allows you to do that.


yeah, sure thing Rod. rather hard to enter a password when there's 
nowhere to enter it, and you didn't know either.


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#60875

FromSandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com>
Date2017-09-09 13:52 +0800
Message-ID<E8OdnYo9iMcgHC7EnZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#60861
On 08-Sep-17 6:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>
>>> FTTP
>>>
>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>
> Not with MR, the router only costs you $1
>
>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other
>
> The one MR supplys isnt.

The MR supplied modem is a Technicolor 789VAC v2 if the OP is using the 
latest one.

http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/telco-gateways/tg789vac-v2

>
>> and have their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to
>> get your own hardware if possible ,
>
> Pointless when the supplied router works fine.
>
>> Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.
>
> So does TPG and MR.

Yes , the TPG umbrella can allow 3rd party hardware on a NBN connection 
, provided you don't need  TPG's voip service.

If you need a  voip service  on TPG or a Internode  / iiNet HFC 
connection  then you are stuck with the TPG supplied modem either the 
Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v as the voip service connects 
to TPG's Netphone voip/sip server and it uses encrypted credentials to 
access the server.

However the point I am making is that a ISP supplied modem is usually 
crap and has custom firmware on it and even if you move to another ISP , 
the modem still updates the firmware from the other ISP which can cause 
issues.

Even the latest TPG modem the TP-Link VR1600v is somewhat crappy , it is 
based on the VR600v modem with AC1600 wifi , the hardware on it is OK , 
but it has internal antennas which can give crappy wifi .

http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/Archer-VR1600v.html







Sandgroper
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#60877

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-10 04:34 +1000
Message-ID<f1iqigF468dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60875

"Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
news:E8OdnYo9iMcgHC7EnZ2dnUU7-VHNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 08-Sep-17 6:06 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>>
>>>> FTTP
>>>>
>>>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all
>>> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>>
>> Not with MR, the router only costs you $1
>>
>>> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other
>>
>> The one MR supplys isnt.
>
> The MR supplied modem is a Technicolor 789VAC v2 if the OP is using the 
> latest one.
>
> http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/connected-home/broadband-devices/telco-gateways/tg789vac-v2

Duh.

>>> and have their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to
>>> get your own hardware if possible ,
>>
>> Pointless when the supplied router works fine.
>>
>>> Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party hardware of a NBN connection.
>>
>> So does TPG and MR.
>
> Yes , the TPG umbrella can allow 3rd party hardware on a NBN connection , 
> provided you don't need  TPG's voip service.
>
> If you need a  voip service  on TPG or a Internode  / iiNet HFC connection 
> then you are stuck with the TPG supplied modem either the Huawei HG659 or 
> the newer TP-Link VR1600v as the voip service connects to TPG's Netphone 
> voip/sip server and it uses encrypted credentials to access the server.
>
> However the point I am making is that a ISP supplied modem is usually crap 
> and has custom firmware on it and even if you move to another ISP , the 
> modem still updates the firmware from the other ISP which can cause 
> issues.
>
> Even the latest TPG modem the TP-Link VR1600v is somewhat crappy , it is 
> based on the VR600v modem with AC1600 wifi , the hardware on it is OK , 
> but it has internal antennas which can give crappy wifi .

And the one MR supplys is fine wifi wise.

> http://www.tp-link.com.au/products/details/Archer-VR1600v.html
 

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#60865

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-09-08 20:29 +1000
Message-ID<f1f9ojF9v8aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60855
On 8/09/2017 5:35 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
> On 08-Sep-17 2:43 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get 
>>>> the MR
>>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their 
>>>> supplied
>>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>>
>>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>>> though you were with MR.
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>>
>>> Move to either Skymesh or Aussie Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look. cost is a factor tho
>
> With Skymesh , Aussie Broadband they offer the mid range 50/20 speed 
> plan be , TPG don't and you are either forced to pay for a crap NBN 
> speed of 25/5 or it costs you an arm and a leg for a 100/40 plan.
>
> The 50/20 plan is the only way to go as it is well above the max speed 
> of adsl and it is more reasonably priced than the 100/40 plan.
>>
>>>
>>> What type of NBN connection do you have ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FTTP
>>
>  OK , this is good , for a FTTP with the NTD on your premises then all 
> you need is a router which is cheaper than a modem/router.
>
> Most ISP supplied modems are usually crap one way or the other and 
> have their own custom firmware installed on it ,  so it is best to get 
> your own hardware if possible , Skymesh , ABB  allow 3rd party 
> hardware of a NBN connection.
>
> As with trying to get the MR modem to work with TPG , TPG uses VLan 
> tagging ,  you will need to enable  VLan = 2 on the modem .

cant see anywhere to set that, but the modem is working as is now (see 
my other post)

>
> MyRepublic doesn't use VLan tagging so it will be disabled on their 
> modem.
>
>

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#60878

Fromkeithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Date2017-09-10 13:10 +1000
Message-ID<f1jopmFahd4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60850
On 9/8/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>
>>
>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>
> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
> though you were with MR.
>
> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
> you need a TPG voip service.

The modem that TPG supplied me certainly isn't the best but it is not in 
the least locked down. The main problem in replacing it is finding a 
good VDSL modem with VOIP support, although that can be added externally.

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#60880

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-09-10 14:12 +1000
Message-ID<f1jsc7Fb7bjU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60878
On 10/09/2017 1:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/8/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>> On 08-Sep-17 1:58 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On 8/09/2017 3:19 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think you've misunderstood. I'm not with MR, I'm trying to get the MR
>>> modem to work on my TPG connection to the NBN to replace their supplied
>>> modem, and I think it can't be done. (see discussion with Rod)
>>
>> OK , I see , the only thing I could see in your post was "MR" so I
>> though you were with MR.
>>
>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>> you need a TPG voip service.
>
> The modem that TPG supplied me certainly isn't the best but it is not 
> in the least locked down. The main problem in replacing it is finding 
> a good VDSL modem with VOIP support, although that can be added 
> externally.
>
yep, I have mynetfone voip thru TPG NBN


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#60881

FromSandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com>
Date2017-09-10 13:09 +0800
Message-ID<fPydnVE7S868VCnEnZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#60878
On 10-Sep-17 11:10 AM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/8/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:

>>
>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>> you need a TPG voip service.
>
> The modem that TPG supplied me certainly isn't the best but it is not in
> the least locked down. The main problem in replacing it is finding a
> good VDSL modem with VOIP support, although that can be added externally.
>

It depends on whether you use voip or not.

These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service , 
the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the 
TP-Link VR1600v.

The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip server 
is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people who have 
tried using workarounds to get  the voip service working on 3rd party 
hardware and can't  , especially on a HFC connection with TPG , 
Internode and iiNet.

If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet , 
it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if you 
get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet  and you need a voip 
service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses 
encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the 
crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.

Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically 
updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the same 
modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.

Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are 
configured for remote access which means that there is always a open 
port for access , which is a security risk.

Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router 
as they are crap modem with crap wifi.

The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there  is when they 
move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP 
they get the older  Telstra TG-789VAC  off eBay or Gumtree for less than 
$50 and bridge it to a router.



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--------------------------------------------
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It's the only place that has Pizza and Beer

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#60882

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-10 19:32 +1000
Message-ID<f1kf5eFf8heU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60881

"Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
news:fPydnVE7S868VCnEnZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 10-Sep-17 11:10 AM, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/8/2017 4:16 PM, Sandgroper wrote:
>
>>>
>>> At any rate , the better thing to do is to dump TPG altogether as they
>>> are mostly crap and they have locked down their modems , especially if
>>> you need a TPG voip service.
>>
>> The modem that TPG supplied me certainly isn't the best but it is not in
>> the least locked down. The main problem in replacing it is finding a
>> good VDSL modem with VOIP support, although that can be added externally.
>>
>
> It depends on whether you use voip or not.
>
> These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service , the 
> Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the TP-Link 
> VR1600v.
>
> The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip server 
> is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people who have 
> tried using workarounds to get  the voip service working on 3rd party 
> hardware and can't  , especially on a HFC connection with TPG , Internode 
> and iiNet.
>
> If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet , it 
> is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if you get a 
> HFC connection with Internode or iiNet  and you need a voip service , then 
> you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses encrypted username 
> and passwords and you will be forced to use the crappy Huawei HG659 or the 
> newer TP-Link VR1600v.
>
> Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically 
> updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the same 
> modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.

Bullshit.

> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are configured 
> for remote access which means that there is always a open port for access 
> , which is a security risk.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.

> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router as 
> they are crap modem with crap wifi.

The one MR supplies isnt.

> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there  is when they move 
> to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP they get 
> the older  Telstra TG-789VAC  off eBay or Gumtree for less than $50 and 
> bridge it to a router.

Fuck all do that. 

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#60883

FromSandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com>
Date2017-09-10 18:07 +0800
Message-ID<xbOdnTBjApqckijEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#60882
On 10-Sep-17 5:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> It depends on whether you use voip or not.
>>
>> These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service ,
>> the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the
>> TP-Link VR1600v.
>>
>> The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip
>> server is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people
>> who have tried using workarounds to get  the voip service working on
>> 3rd party hardware and can't  , especially on a HFC connection with
>> TPG , Internode and iiNet.
>>
>> If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet
>> , it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if
>> you get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet  and you need a voip
>> service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses
>> encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the
>> crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.
>>
>> Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically
>> updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the
>> same modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.
>
> Bullshit.

Block the open port , then you block the firmware updates

It is true , the ISP supplied modem does update the firmware from the 
original ISP , you are too stupid to realise that.

>> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are
>> configured for remote access which means that there is always a open
>> port for access , which is a security risk.
>
> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.
>
>> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router
>> as they are crap modem with crap wifi.
>
> The one MR supplies isnt.

Most of the ISP supplied modems use N300 wifi and are the cheap crappy 
modems , it is only just recently  that some ISP are introducing AC1600 
wifi modems.

Skymesh use a D-Link Talkbox 2800 , while the hardware specs are good 
and using the new Triductor chipset , the firmware on it is a bit crappy 
and people have had issues with them.

The iiNet / Internode TG-789 has good hardware specs , but the wifi on 
it is patchy at times as it  has internal antennas .

TPG use the crappy POS the Huawei HG659 modem that is not even worth 
switching on , let alone paying for the frigging thing.

The newer TP-Link VR1600v is actually a VR600v , but it has internal 
antennas on it and while some people say the wifi is good , it is yet to 
be determined by general usage if the wifi is OK.

So basically most ISP supplied modems are mostly a bit crappy , the only 
good thing about them is that they are sold to the customer at a reduce 
rate.

>
>> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there  is when they
>> move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP
>> they get the older  Telstra TG-789VAC  off eBay or Gumtree for less
>> than $50 and bridge it to a router.
>
> Fuck all do that

Just telling people of what is the current trend with the NBN , which a 
old dinosaur like you may not know about or understand.
.


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#60884

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-11 04:14 +1000
Message-ID<f1ldnfFm60dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60883

"Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
news:xbOdnTBjApqckijEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 10-Sep-17 5:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> It depends on whether you use voip or not.
>>>
>>> These days , the TPG voip modems that are used for TPG voip service ,
>>> the Huawei HG659 and the newer one that has just been released , the
>>> TP-Link VR1600v.
>>>
>>> The username and password used to get access to the voip sip/voip
>>> server is encrypted on the modem and there have been plenty of people
>>> who have tried using workarounds to get  the voip service working on
>>> 3rd party hardware and can't  , especially on a HFC connection with
>>> TPG , Internode and iiNet.
>>>
>>> If you are on a FTTN , FTTP , FTTB connection with Internode or iiNet
>>> , it is fine as you can get access to the voip settings , however if
>>> you get a HFC connection with Internode or iiNet  and you need a voip
>>> service , then you will be connecting to the TPG Netphone that uses
>>> encrypted username and passwords and you will be forced to use the
>>> crappy Huawei HG659 or the newer TP-Link VR1600v.
>>>
>>> Another thing to remember is that any ISP supplied modem automatically
>>> updates the firmware on it , so even if you change ISP and use the
>>> same modem , the modem updates the firmware from the old ISP.
>>
>> Bullshit.

> It is true , the ISP supplied modem does update the firmware from the 
> original ISP

I was commenting on your stupid pig ignorant ANY claim.

Most obviously with the smallest ISPs.

>>> Another thing to remember is that most ISP supplied modems are
>>> configured for remote access which means that there is always a open
>>> port for access , which is a security risk.
>>
>> Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself can turn that off.
>>
>>> Most ISP supplied modems are really only good for bridging to a router
>>> as they are crap modem with crap wifi.
>>
>> The one MR supplies isnt.
>
> Most of the ISP supplied modems use N300 wifi and are the cheap crappy 
> modems , it is only just recently  that some ISP are introducing AC1600 
> wifi modems.

So what you said is more mindless silly shit.

>>> The current trend now for all the cheap sods out there  is when they
>>> move to the NBN with a FTTN/FTTB connection or change to another ISP
>>> they get the older  Telstra TG-789VAC  off eBay or Gumtree for less
>>> than $50 and bridge it to a router.
>>
>> Fuck all do that

> Just telling people of what is the current trend with the NBN ,

Pigs arse it’s the current trend.
 

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#60860

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-08 20:00 +1000
Message-ID<f1f81mF9ihgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60848

"Sandgroper" <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> wrote in message 
news:Jq2dnbO5ncL6tS_EnZ2dnUU7-a_NnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> On 05-Sep-17 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
>>
>> getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres
>> from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was
>> much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a
>> repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better-
>> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once
>> again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off
>> TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke
>> our internet service is!

> If you using  the MR supplied modem , then it comes preconfigured and you 
> should not have to piss about setting it up , just switch it on and wait 
> up to 10 minutes to configure itself to the network. ,

Doesn’t work with a TPG NBN service.

> and from memory , you also don't need a username and password for the NBN 
> and the connection is done by the modem's MAC.

He's actually talking about the router behind the NBN box.

> For your crap download rates , it mostly could be caused by network 
> congestion and MR not buying enough bandwidth and CVC.

Nope, its due to the pathetic wifi that you get with the router TPG supplys.

It cant even come close to delivering the 100/40 the service supplys.

> The MR modem have internal antennas , so you are always going to get 
> crappy wifi ,

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

It actually does better than my previous Billion 7800NXL
which does have external antennas.

> so to get wifi to your shed , you will need to get some point to point 
> wifi Ubiquiti Air Max dishes to cover the 30 metres distance.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Works fine to my back neighbour who is further away than his shed.
 

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#60914

FromJeßus <j@j.net>
Date2017-09-18 07:00 +0700
Message-ID<f03urcp2o0mmmo7chunmjqhvopumtqk6u5@4ax.com>
In reply to#60820
On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 13:15:13 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

>getting virtually no internet response in the workshop (about 30 metres 
>from the house) so ran a speed test - 0.10 mbps download! (upload was 
>much faster, if that makes any sense). I will have to install a 
>repeater. however, speed close to the modem/router was not much better- 
>http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6597490287.png. pathetic! (and once 
>again, upload is faster) I'll have to see if I can get the settings off 
>TPG and try that MR modem. but note 'faster than 53% of Oz'. what a joke 
>our internet service is!

Here's the result from my free hotel wifi in rural Thailand:
PING 14ms DOWNLOAD 15.92Mbps UPLOAD12.84Mbps (Ookla)

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