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| Started by | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| First post | 2017-08-12 10:28 +1000 |
| Last post | 2017-08-12 15:45 +1000 |
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Great Video downloader felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-08-12 10:28 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-08-12 01:13 +0000
Re: Great Video downloader Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-08-12 12:32 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-08-12 12:41 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:15 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-08-12 15:25 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 17:02 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-08-12 21:19 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 22:27 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-08-12 23:10 +0000
Re: Great Video downloader Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-08-13 10:19 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-08-13 10:17 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 12:04 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-08-13 22:17 +0000
Re: Great Video downloader "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 09:30 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:57 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-08-14 01:27 +0000
Re: Great Video downloader "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 15:44 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-08-14 23:08 +0000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 11:08 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 11:15 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 15:56 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 13:49 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 14:13 +1000
Re: Great Video downloader felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-08-12 15:45 +1000
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 10:28 +1000 |
| Subject | Great Video downloader |
| Message-ID | <ev70coFsla4U1@mid.individual.net> |
found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out -- Islam: the greatest murder machine in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ https://www.jihadwatch.org
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 01:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omlko0$mkq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60595 |
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: > > found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video > Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any > website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many > downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it > last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was > able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out Hopefully not this: http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html etc. Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 12:32 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <0vpsoc163s1n7d2dm0kaqso3k5b468ttvf@j.net> |
| In reply to | #60596 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 01:13:37 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: >felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >> >> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out > >Hopefully not this: >http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >etc. > >Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... As soon as I saw the subject and author, I figured it would be some form of dodgy malware https://tinyurl.com/y7j25p4y Having 'Pro' in the name is a bit of a red flag in of itself for freeware.
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 12:41 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ev785sFu628U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60596 |
On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out > Hopefully not this: > http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ > http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html > etc. > > Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... > dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other way, then delete it again. -- Islam: the greatest murder machine in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ https://www.jihadwatch.org
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 14:15 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <n50tocpk25sbq52i6ehn134pmhlfnv8vrt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60598 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >> Hopefully not this: >> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >> etc. >> >> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >> >dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >way, then delete it again. I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" https://is.gd/mg9t9C -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 15:25 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ev7hr0F1ic0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60602 |
On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> > wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>> Hopefully not this: >>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>> etc. >>> >>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>> >> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >> way, then delete it again. > I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" > https://is.gd/mg9t9C if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? -- Islam: the greatest murder machine in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ https://www.jihadwatch.org
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 17:02 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <5u9tocl0ppatj6thvr9vu1v3g9ov4r7llt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60603 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>> Hopefully not this: >>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>> >>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>> way, then delete it again. >> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >> https://is.gd/mg9t9C > > >if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? Fakenews? Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 21:19 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ev86hgF64fvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60605 |
On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> > wrote: > >> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>> >>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>> way, then delete it again. >>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >> >> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? > Fakenews? > Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine -- Islam: the greatest murder machine in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ https://www.jihadwatch.org
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 22:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <3vstoctkmbe3m24eg01mvest4be0958lpd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60606 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>> >>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>> >>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >> Fakenews? >> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong > >maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine My two detctors Windows Defefender and SpyHunter come up with nothing -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-08-12 23:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omo1t6$bg7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60606 |
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: > On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>> >>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >> Fakenews? >> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong > > maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their > anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine It's adware. Some people might choose to put up with the ads and security issues. As it allows itself to be removed by the usual methods, many anti-virus programs probably don't consider it their territory. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-13 10:19 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <hm6voc1o1b4frq4e1t13i99n8dk75arhgc@j.net> |
| In reply to | #60619 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:10:32 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: >felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >> On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>> >>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>> Fakenews? >>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >> >> maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >> anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine > >It's adware. Some people might choose to put up with the ads and >security issues. As it allows itself to be removed by the usual >methods, many anti-virus programs probably don't consider it their >territory. Indeed, and that fact alone suggests it is potentially dodgy.
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-08-13 10:17 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vi6voct4sjgdgahnv9ja5jhm3hb5d2284l@j.net> |
| In reply to | #60606 |
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>> >>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>> >>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >> Fakenews? >> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong > >maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says about it is irrelevant.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-13 12:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mkcvoclmum870nle2d0ec1q3b1k73mbs2p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60623 |
On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Jeßus <j@j.net> wrote: >On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >wrote: > >>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>> >>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>> >>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>> Fakenews? >>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >> >>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine > >If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >about it is irrelevant. SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says it's clean? Begriming to think your search is a different product? my browser "Extension" is called "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-08-13 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omqj65$8l0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60625 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called 'Video >>>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from any >>>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know many >>>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I used it >>>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds and I was >>>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it out >>>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, so I >>>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it and >>>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any other >>>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>> >>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>> Fakenews? >>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>> >>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >> >>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>about it is irrelevant. > > SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says > it's clean? > > Begriming to think your search is a different product? > my browser "Extension" is called > "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots shown on the botcrawl.com site. I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for your software - after all, it can be removed like any other browser extension anyway. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-14 09:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <evc5plF3pk3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60640 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:omqj65$8l0$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called >>>>>>>>>> 'Video >>>>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I >>>>>>>>>> used it >>>>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds >>>>>>>>>> and I was >>>>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, >>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>>> >>>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>>> Fakenews? >>>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>>> >>>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >>> >>>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>>about it is irrelevant. >> >> SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says >> it's clean? >> >> Begriming to think your search is a different product? >> my browser "Extension" is called >> "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser > > I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by > the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots > shown on the botcrawl.com site. > > I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for > your software - after all, it can be removed like any other > browser extension anyway. More likely it once did have a problem with the installer installing some extra shit and that has been fixed now.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-14 10:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <0at1pcpvgaev47kbgtiemt8kjp3po2chqc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60642 |
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:30:54 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >news:omqj65$8l0$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called >>>>>>>>>>> 'Video >>>>>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from >>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know >>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I >>>>>>>>>>> used it >>>>>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds >>>>>>>>>>> and I was >>>>>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it >>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, >>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>>>> Fakenews? >>>>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>>>> >>>>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >>>> >>>>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>>>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>>>about it is irrelevant. >>> >>> SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says >>> it's clean? >>> >>> Begriming to think your search is a different product? >>> my browser "Extension" is called >>> "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser >> >> I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by >> the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots >> shown on the botcrawl.com site. >> >> I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for >> your software - after all, it can be removed like any other >> browser extension anyway. > >More likely it once did have a problem with the installer >installing some extra shit and that has been fixed now. Thats what I think, the "news" link was a year old -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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| From | Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-08-14 01:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omqu93$ltu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60644 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:30:54 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>>>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Video >>>>>>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music from >>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably know >>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I >>>>>>>>>>>> used it >>>>>>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds >>>>>>>>>>>> and I was >>>>>>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a PUP, >>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good malware >>>>>>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete it >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get any >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why is >>>>>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>>>>> Fakenews? >>>>>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>>>>> >>>>>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>>>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >>>>> >>>>>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>>>>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>>>>about it is irrelevant. >>>> >>>> SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says >>>> it's clean? >>>> >>>> Begriming to think your search is a different product? >>>> my browser "Extension" is called >>>> "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser >>> >>> I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by >>> the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots >>> shown on the botcrawl.com site. >>> >>> I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for >>> your software - after all, it can be removed like any other >>> browser extension anyway. >> >>More likely it once did have a problem with the installer >>installing some extra shit and that has been fixed now. > > Thats what I think, the "news" link was a year old The "news" link, which you seem determined not to read, notes: "Video Downloader Pro ads can usually?be identified by text on them that say "Ads By Video Downloader Pro" on the bottom corner." If it were other software that was installed at the same time (rather tricky when it can download and install using the web browser's own extension management system), removing just the Video Downloader Pro extension wouldn't stop the ads. Which, according to the links, it does. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-14 15:44 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <evcrmfF840mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #60645 |
"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message news:omqu93$ltu$1@gioia.aioe.org... > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:30:54 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>>>>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix >>>>>>>> <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix >>>>>>>>>> <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 11:13 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> found this great video downloader extension for Chrome called >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Video >>>>>>>>>>>>> Downloader Pro'. as it says.."Download any video and music >>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>> website! Fast, easy, free!". As most ppl here would probably >>>>>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaders don't work on the tv station catch up sites, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> used it >>>>>>>>>>>>> last night for a ep on tenplay and it downloaded it in seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>> and I was >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to watch without adds and FF and RW. it's great! check it >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully not this: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://botcrawl.com/remove-video-downloader-pro/ >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-ads-by-video-downloader-pro.html >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ah the slogan is the same, looks like it is... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> dammit! I thought I was on a good thing. however, it's only a >>>>>>>>>>> PUP, >>>>>>>>>>> so I >>>>>>>>>>> will keep an eye out for any sus behaviour. and I have good >>>>>>>>>>> malware >>>>>>>>>>> detection, so I will see if it gets flags. or else I can delete >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> reinstall only if or when I need to get something I can't get >>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> way, then delete it again. >>>>>>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>>>>>> Fakenews? >>>>>>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>>>>>> >>>>>>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>>>>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >>>>>> >>>>>>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>>>>>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>>>>>about it is irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says >>>>> it's clean? >>>>> >>>>> Begriming to think your search is a different product? >>>>> my browser "Extension" is called >>>>> "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser >>>> >>>> I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by >>>> the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots >>>> shown on the botcrawl.com site. >>>> >>>> I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for >>>> your software - after all, it can be removed like any other >>>> browser extension anyway. >>> >>>More likely it once did have a problem with the installer >>>installing some extra shit and that has been fixed now. >> >> Thats what I think, the "news" link was a year old > > The "news" link, which you seem determined not to read, notes: > > "Video Downloader Pro ads can usually?be identified by text > on them that say "Ads By Video Downloader Pro" on the bottom > corner." But no one here has seen any of those, so clearly it doesn’t do that anymore and that’s all that matters if you are considering using it now. > If it were other software that was installed at the same time > (rather tricky when it can download and install using the web > browser's own extension management system), removing just the > Video Downloader Pro extension wouldn't stop the ads. Which, > according to the links, it does. That might have been how it once was, but clearly isnt how it is now.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2017-08-14 23:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <omtai8$1up3$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #60647 |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:30:54 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:17:54 +1000, Je?us <j@j.net> wrote: >>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 21:19:17 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>On 12/08/2017 5:02 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:25:56 +1000, felix >>>>>>>>> <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2017 2:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:01 +1000, felix >>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded "Video Downloader Pro" >>>>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/mg9t9C >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if it is as bad as those anti malware sites try to make out, why >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> Chrome ie. Google, not warning about it? >>>>>>>>> Fakenews? >>>>>>>>> Widows Defender can't detect anything wrong >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>maybe those sites were just using it as an excuse to spruik their >>>>>>>>anti-malware sofware. I think it's fine >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you read the negative reviews/comment via a search engine, the >>>>>>>problem with this app is clearly explained. What Defender et al says >>>>>>>about it is irrelevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> SpyHunter the 2nd check is very hostile towards adware and it says >>>>>> it's clean? >>>>>> >>>>>> Begriming to think your search is a different product? >>>>>> my browser "Extension" is called >>>>>> "Video Downloader Pro I use it on Opera browser >>>>> >>>>> I concluded that felix's extension was the same as the adware by >>>>> the fact that the slogan he mentions is in one of the screenshots >>>>> shown on the botcrawl.com site. >>>>> >>>>> I think it just hasn't made its way onto the blacklists for >>>>> your software - after all, it can be removed like any other >>>>> browser extension anyway. >>>> >>>>More likely it once did have a problem with the installer >>>>installing some extra shit and that has been fixed now. >>> >>> Thats what I think, the "news" link was a year old >> >> The "news" link, which you seem determined not to read, notes: >> >> "Video Downloader Pro ads can usually?be identified by text >> on them that say "Ads By Video Downloader Pro" on the bottom >> corner." > > But no one here has seen any of those, so clearly it doesn?t do that > anymore and that?s all that matters if you are considering using it now. If the people here have only just installed it, we don't know if it might start the ads later. In any case the fact that it once had ads would be enough to deter people like me from ever letting it near their PC. There are tons of video downloaders out there, adware, trialware, and even honest freebies. This probably isn't the only one that knows about Tenplay. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-08-15 11:08 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dbi4pctbn0vnjcln3prqejl2hrf92q1p2k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #60655 |
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:08:58 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: >>> "Video Downloader Pro ads can usually?be identified by text >>> on them that say "Ads By Video Downloader Pro" on the bottom >>> corner." >> >> But no one here has seen any of those, so clearly it doesn?t do that >> anymore and that?s all that matters if you are considering using it now. > >If the people here have only just installed it, we don't know if it >might start the ads later. In any case the fact that it once had ads >would be enough to deter people like me from ever letting it near >their PC. > >There are tons of video downloaders out there, adware, trialware, >and even honest freebies. This probably isn't the only one that >knows about Tenplay. This is a browser extension not a "installer" product -- Petzl Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"
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