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Re: Fibre

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  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 05:12 +1100
    Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 10:12 +1100
      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 11:06 +1100
        Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 12:07 +1100
          Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-20 13:03 +1100
        Re: Fibre F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-20 22:20 +1100
          Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 08:25 +1100
            Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 10:48 +1100
              Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-21 11:38 +1100
            Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 13:23 +1100
              Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 14:38 +1100
                Re: Fibre F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-23 14:56 +1100
                  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 15:18 +1100
                Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 15:16 +1100
                  Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 18:49 +1100
                    Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 21:32 +1100
                      Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 21:47 +1100
                        Re: Fibre Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-23 22:41 +1100
                          Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 10:11 +1100
                            Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 14:25 +1100
                          Re: Fibre Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-12-24 23:02 +1100
                            Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 11:09 +1100
                        Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 03:58 +1100
                          Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 10:19 +1100
                            Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 14:33 +1100
                              Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 14:47 +1100
                                Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 16:27 +1100
                              Re: Fibre keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-25 22:00 +1000
                                Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 05:44 +1100
                                  Re: Fibre F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-26 15:06 +1100
                                    Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 17:27 +1100
                                    Re: Fibre Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-27 18:32 +1100
                                      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 19:29 +1100
                            Re: Fibre F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 15:47 +1100
                              Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 19:03 +1100
                                Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 19:19 +1100
                                  Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 10:57 +1100
                                    Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-25 12:18 +1100
                                    Re: Fibre Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-27 18:29 +1100
                                      Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 18:45 +1100
                                        Re: Fibre Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-27 19:27 +1100
                                      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 19:28 +1100
                                        Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-27 19:43 +1100
                                          Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 02:59 +1100
                                            Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 12:31 +1100
                                              Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 16:00 +1100
                                                Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 17:57 +1100
                                                  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 18:13 +1100
                                                    Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 18:35 +1100
                                                      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 21:34 +1100
                                                  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 18:13 +1100
                                                Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 14:03 +1100
                                                  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 16:09 +1100
                                                    Re: Fibre Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2016-12-29 16:27 +1100
                                                      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 05:43 +1100
                                                    Re: Fibre Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 18:01 +1100
                                                      Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 05:48 +1100
                                                Re: Fibre keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-29 08:58 +1000
                                                  Re: Fibre "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-29 11:23 +1100
                              Re: Fibre Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-12-24 23:13 +1100
                                Re: Fibre F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-24 23:55 +1100
                                Re: Fibre felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-12-25 00:13 +1100
                                  Re: Fibre Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-12-25 00:28 +1100
                            Re: Fibre Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-12-24 23:08 +1100
                        Re: Fibre Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-12-24 23:00 +1100

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#56453 — Re: Fibre

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 05:12 +1100
SubjectRe: Fibre
Message-ID<ebqm8uFo3o3U1@mid.individual.net>

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been 
>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or so 
>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>
> So what happened ?
>
> You don’t see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
> Xmas. Maybe they don’t have enough testers or something.
>
> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.

Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here, 

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#56460

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 10:12 +1100
Message-ID<cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com>
In reply to#56453
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been 
>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or so 
>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>
>> So what happened ?
>>
>> You don’t see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>> Xmas. Maybe they don’t have enough testers or something.
>>
>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>
>Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here, 

How "imminent" is it you saw something happen months ago. 
but nothing seems to of moved?
Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good coffee shop in Martin
place after two years now?
Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some track on
George St between Park St and Bathurst St? 
Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
ones property (probably dig it up again, more fake news by "our media"
paid for by politicians)
-- 
Petzl

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#56461

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 11:06 +1100
Message-ID<ebrb0tFt4i3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56460

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or so
>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>
>>> So what happened ?
>>>
>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>
>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>
>>Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,

> How "imminent" is it

Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.

Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.

> you saw something happen months ago.

Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.

> but nothing seems to of moved?

There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.

Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.

Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.

There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.

Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
with long handles right down each side. But at least one
of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
not actually be a temporary cover anymore.

> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?

Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.

> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
> ones property

How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?

Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.

> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
 

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#56462

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 12:07 +1100
Message-ID<610h5c5kjh0grkblocr7m5bnlilc2urj9s@4ax.com>
In reply to#56461
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:06:47 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or so
>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>
>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>
>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>
>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>
>>>Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>
>> How "imminent" is it
>
>Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>
>Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>
Here's hoping.

>> you saw something happen months ago.
>
>Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>
>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>
>There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>
>Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>
>Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>
>There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>
>Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>
I think a lot of pillars are removed?

>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>
>Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>
I think it's the coffee shop.
When a new line was being put from Macathur to Airport a lot of times
buses were used claimed trackwork. But looking out bus windows all
backhoes etc was idle. Turned out it was a scam 

>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>> ones property
>
>How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>
16 months
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulwich_Hill_Line#Construction>

>Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>
As with Macathur to Airport line one has to check for scams.
Seems there is a "normal" amount of junk not removed over the
centuries, the construction company is claim they need to check out
carefully what it is. I suspect it's more of a scam than reality.
The "posh" suburbs are "suddenly" finding artifacts (didn't stop there
house or alterations ever before)
<http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/call-to-halt-sydney-light-rail-after-massive-indigenous-artefact-find-20160329-gnsxr4.html>
 
>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
> 
My U-Bute bus stop was put up I thought it great, the next week they
are digging it up, the concrete slab was 4 inches think, the council
require 8 inches  (it's back up now)?
-- 
Petzl

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#56463

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 13:03 +1100
Message-ID<ebri7mF5p0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56462

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:610h5c5kjh0grkblocr7m5bnlilc2urj9s@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:06:47 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>
>>>>Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>
>>> How "imminent" is it
>>
>>Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>
>>Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>
> Here's hoping.
>
>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>
>>Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>
>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>
>>There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>
>>Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>
>>Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>
>>There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>
>>Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>not actually be a temporary cover anymore.

> I think a lot of pillars are removed?

Hasn't happened here.

>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>
>>Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>
> I think it's the coffee shop.
> When a new line was being put from Macathur to Airport a lot of times
> buses were used claimed trackwork. But looking out bus windows all
> backhoes etc was idle. Turned out it was a scam
>
>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>> ones property
>>
>>How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>
> 16 months
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulwich_Hill_Line#Construction>
>
>>Not that useful info tho because it went along the old rail
>>right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>
> As with Macathur to Airport line one has to check for scams.
> Seems there is a "normal" amount of junk not removed over the
> centuries, the construction company is claim they need to check
> out carefully what it is. I suspect it's more of a scam than reality.
> The "posh" suburbs are "suddenly" finding artifacts
> (didn't stop there house or alterations ever before)
> <http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/call-to-halt-sydney-light-rail-after-massive-indigenous-artefact-find-20160329-gnsxr4.html>

>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)

> My U-Bute bus stop was put up I thought it great, the next
> week they are digging it up, the concrete slab was 4 inches
> think, the council require 8 inches  (it's back up now)?

Stupid bastards. 

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#56464

FromF Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-20 22:20 +1100
Message-ID<58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#56461
Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or so
>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>
>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>
>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>
>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>
>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>
>> How "imminent" is it
>
> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>
> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>
>> you saw something happen months ago.
>
> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>
>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>
> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>
> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>
> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>
> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.

About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when 
I came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was 
connecting power to node box.
>
> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>
>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>
> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>
>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>> ones property
>
> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>
> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>
>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>
>

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#56465

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-21 08:25 +1100
Message-ID<ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56464

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>
>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>
>>> How "imminent" is it
>>
>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>
>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>
>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>
>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>
>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>
>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>
>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>
>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>
>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>
> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when I 
> came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was connecting 
> power to node box.

Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node 
box.

None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.

>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>
>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>
>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>
>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>> ones property
>>
>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>
>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>
>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>>
>>
> 

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#56468

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-21 10:48 +1100
Message-ID<8ufj5cdv38j7rj6i9r85vbbv1tjehk20gc@4ax.com>
In reply to#56465
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:25:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>
>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>
>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>
>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>
>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
>> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when I 
>> came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was connecting 
>> power to node box.
>
>Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node 
>box.
>
>None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.

You might be getting Fibre to the Home (FttH)?
Our power is underground with home power supply conneted through base
of Street Light Pole. The Same power source for Node.
-- 
Petzl

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#56469

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-21 11:38 +1100
Message-ID<ebu194Fiin9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56468

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8ufj5cdv38j7rj6i9r85vbbv1tjehk20gc@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:25:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>>
>>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>>
>>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>>
>>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with
>>> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when 
>>> I
>>> came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was 
>>> connecting
>>> power to node box.
>>
>>Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node
>>box.
>>
>>None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>
> You might be getting Fibre to the Home (FttH)?

Nope, its definitely FTTN.

> Our power is underground

Ours isnt in this particular part of the town.

> with home power supply conneted
> through base of Street Light Pole.

The part of the town that does have underground
power has green pillar things which are square roughly
every second house. Not that high, about 300mm

> The Same power source for Node.

Yeah, but given we have overhead mains in my street, there
should be some obvious connection to that and there isnt.

Tho come to think of it, they did have a bucket truck at the
pole mounted big transformer across the road from the node.
I spose they likely did mole it under the road and its powered
from there. Must have a close look at the pole the transformer
is on, it should be visible up that pole if that's how its powered. 

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#56540

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 13:23 +1100
Message-ID<ec3g5rFs9tmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56465

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>>
>>>> How "imminent" is it
>>>
>>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>>
>>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>>
>>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>>
>>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>>
>>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>>
>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>
>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>
>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>
>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>
>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
>> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when I 
>> came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was connecting 
>> power to node box.
>
> Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node 
> box.
>
> None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>
>>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>>
>>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>>
>>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>>
>>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>>> ones property
>>>
>>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>>
>>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>>
>>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)

Allegedly its available today in my part of town.

I'd just decided that they weren't going to do that on the
day before Xmas Eve but they have just dumped me face
down in the mud on that apparently. 

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#56541

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 14:38 +1100
Message-ID<ec3khsFt6d4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56540

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ec3g5rFs9tmU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month or 
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full month
>>>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>>>
>>>>> How "imminent" is it
>>>>
>>>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>>>
>>>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>>>
>>>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>>>
>>>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>>>
>>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>>
>>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>>
>>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>>
>>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
>>> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when 
>>> I came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was 
>>> connecting power to node box.
>>
>> Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node 
>> box.
>>
>> None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>>
>>>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>>>
>>>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>>>
>>>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>>>> ones property
>>>>
>>>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>>>
>>>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>>>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>>>
>>>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>
> Allegedly its available today in my part of town.
>
> I'd just decided that they weren't going to do that on the
> day before Xmas Eve but they have just dumped me face
> down in the mud on that apparently.

It does appear to be available today at my place.

I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.

Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
happy to halve the break fee to just $99.

I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins. 

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#56544

FromF Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 14:56 +1100
Message-ID<585ca087$0$34574$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#56541
Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ec3g5rFs9tmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a
>>>>>>>>> month or so
>>>>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full
>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>>>>
>>>>>> How "imminent" is it
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>>>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>>>>
>>>>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>>>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>>>>
>>>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>>>
>>>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node
>>>> with his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and
>>>> jumped when I came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he
>>>> said he was connecting power to node box.
>>>
>>> Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the
>>> node box.
>>>
>>> None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>>>
>>>>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>>>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>>>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>>>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>>>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>>>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>>>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>>>>> ones property
>>>>>
>>>>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>>>>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>>>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>>>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>>
>> Allegedly its available today in my part of town.
>>
>> I'd just decided that they weren't going to do that on the
>> day before Xmas Eve but they have just dumped me face
>> down in the mud on that apparently.
>
> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>
> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>
> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>
> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
I just ran my address through NBN and it said estimated start Jan 2017

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#56546

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 15:18 +1100
Message-ID<ec3mtiFtld0U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56544

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:585ca087$0$34574$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ec3g5rFs9tmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a
>>>>>>>>>> month or so
>>>>>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long 
>>>>>>>>> handles
>>>>>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full
>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How "imminent" is it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>>>>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>>>>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>>>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>>>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>>>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>>>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>>>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>>>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>>>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>>>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>>>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>>>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>>>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>>>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>>>>
>>>>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node
>>>>> with his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and
>>>>> jumped when I came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he
>>>>> said he was connecting power to node box.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the
>>>> node box.
>>>>
>>>> None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>>>>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>>>>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>>>>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>>>>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>>>>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>>>>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>>>>>> ones property
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>>>>>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>>>>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>>>>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>>>
>>> Allegedly its available today in my part of town.
>>>
>>> I'd just decided that they weren't going to do that on the
>>> day before Xmas Eve but they have just dumped me face
>>> down in the mud on that apparently.
>>
>> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>>
>> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
>> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
>> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
>> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
>> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>>
>> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
>> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>>
>> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
>> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
> I just ran my address through NBN and it said estimated start Jan 2017

Try
https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=

It is spot on with my place and my half of the town.
The other half of the town has 20-Jan-2017 

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#56545

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 15:16 +1100
Message-ID<ec3mthFtld0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56541

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ec3khsFt6d4U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:ec3g5rFs9tmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:ebtlumFg026U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:58591401$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:cnpg5c9bf6vusbm88kc30cfi77vptfk25k@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:12:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eb99lrFhkeiU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is all thumb twiddling and testing now, apparently it has been
>>>>>>>>> connected and has been for ages, just waiting,maybe just a month 
>>>>>>>>> or so
>>>>>>>>> for them to try it all out before they give it to us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what happened ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't see too much activity at all here now, tho there are
>>>>>>>> still a few pillars with the temporary covers with the long handles
>>>>>>>> down each side. Looks unlikely we will be seeing anything before
>>>>>>>> Xmas. Maybe they don't have enough testers or something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First sign of any activity was 12-Aug, that still gives a full 
>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>> to go if mine is as slow as Keith's was, 5 months in his case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just had someone whining in the local facebook group that Telstra
>>>>>>> has refused to fix a phone fault because the NBN is imminent here,
>>>>>
>>>>>> How "imminent" is it
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently predicted to be next month, Jan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which fits with what Keith saw, we still have one month to go before
>>>>> we have the same 5 months from starting to available he got.
>>>>>
>>>>>> you saw something happen months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, first visible activity, digging the holes
>>>>> for the nodes/green boxes was 12-Aug.
>>>>>
>>>>>> but nothing seems to of moved?
>>>>>
>>>>> There was lots of visible activity for 3 months. In the first couple
>>>>> of weeks they were digging the holes for the green boxes with
>>>>> mid sized trucks and then putting those on their own concrete
>>>>> pads with multiple poly pipes to the relatively adjacent pillar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then for about 2 months after that there were usually white vans
>>>>> parked near the boxes and monkeys fiddling with the wires in one
>>>>> end. I spoke to one of them when he was doing that and you could
>>>>> see that he was terminating the multicore cable on the vertical panel
>>>>> up the entire narrow section in one of the green boxes. I said 'the
>>>>> electronics is down there presumably', pointing to the rest of the
>>>>> box which had the door still closed on it and he said 'yep'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes the van was parked beside an existing pit with
>>>>> a monkey or two in the pit. Wasn't obvious what they were
>>>>> doing down there when I stopped and talked to one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> There hasn't been as much activity in the last month but you
>>>>> do sometimes see someone down another prexisting pit still.
>>>>
>>>> About three weeks ago I saw some one having a snooze near our node with 
>>>> his head resting on a small pit between node and a pole and jumped when 
>>>> I came up, he pretended to talk down the pit then he said he was 
>>>> connecting power to node box.
>>>
>>> Interesting point, it isnt at all obvious how the power gets to the node 
>>> box.
>>>
>>> None of ours have any connection to the mains poles.
>>>
>>>>> Some of the pillars still have temporary covers on them,
>>>>> with long handles right down each side. But at least one
>>>>> of them actually has the usual lettering on it so it may
>>>>> not actually be a temporary cover anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Sydney's light rail still not past the good
>>>>>> coffee shop in Martin place after two years now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, but that is obviously a lot more work that with the NBN.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Light rail have made a big deal about actually laying some
>>>>>> track on George St between Park St and Bathurst St?
>>>>>> Meant to start at Circular Quay, this strip is around the length on
>>>>>> ones property
>>>>>
>>>>> How long did it take for the existing light rail to get done ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that useful into tho because it went along the old rail
>>>>> right of way, particularly when it got out past the edge of
>>>>> the CBD out where the PowerHouse Museum is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> (probably dig it up again, more fake news
>>>>>> by "our media" paid for by politicians)
>>
>> Allegedly its available today in my part of town.
>>
>> I'd just decided that they weren't going to do that on the
>> day before Xmas Eve but they have just dumped me face
>> down in the mud on that apparently.
>
> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>
> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>
> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>
> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.

They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
of the online signup so I signed up on the phone. 

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#56557

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 18:49 +1100
Message-ID<dflp5ch316bdgl22r51r503bcs24lbc0m1@4ax.com>
In reply to#56545
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:16:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>>
>> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
>> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
>> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
>> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
>> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>>
>> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
>> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>>
>> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
>> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
>
>They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
>of the online signup so I signed up on the phone. 

I only found FttN was available by checking online
About a month later letters started arriving from ISP's of offers.
Also had problems for Telstra to give me correct bill always over
charged by around $10. Took them months to give me a TV modem which I
use for programs I miss not paying for any Netflix etc.
-- 
Petzl

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#56564

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 21:32 +1100
Message-ID<ec4cptF426iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56557

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:dflp5ch316bdgl22r51r503bcs24lbc0m1@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:16:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>>>
>>> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
>>> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
>>> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
>>> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
>>> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>>>
>>> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
>>> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>>>
>>> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
>>> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
>>
>>They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
>>of the online signup so I signed up on the phone.

> I only found FttN was available by checking online

Mate of mine found a big Telstra van down the main street today
and asked them when it would be available. He said today in half
the town and a couple more weeks in the other half.

> About a month later letters started arriving from ISP's of offers.

We've been having those for months now, mostly from iprimus and
someone else I can't remember. None from dodo or telstra tho even
tho I have used both in the past and currently use dodo.

> Also had problems for Telstra to give me correct bill always over
> charged by around $10. Took them months to give me a TV modem
> which I use for programs I miss not paying for any Netflix etc.

Havent used them for more than a decade now. I did use them
when adsl first showed up, basically in case there were problems. 

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#56565

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-23 21:47 +1100
Message-ID<khvp5cpmp2v0mv50ln65322qovspm6bv1j@4ax.com>
In reply to#56564
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:32:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:dflp5ch316bdgl22r51r503bcs24lbc0m1@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:16:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>>>>
>>>> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract ran out,
>>>> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
>>>> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, dodo
>>>> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
>>>> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year contract.
>>>>
>>>> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
>>>> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>>>>
>>>> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final screen.
>>>> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
>>>
>>>They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
>>>of the online signup so I signed up on the phone.
>
>> I only found FttN was available by checking online
>
>Mate of mine found a big Telstra van down the main street today
>and asked them when it would be available. He said today in half
>the town and a couple more weeks in the other half.
>
>> About a month later letters started arriving from ISP's of offers.
>
>We've been having those for months now, mostly from iprimus and
>someone else I can't remember. None from dodo or telstra tho even
>tho I have used both in the past and currently use dodo.
>
>> Also had problems for Telstra to give me correct bill always over
>> charged by around $10. Took them months to give me a TV modem
>> which I use for programs I miss not paying for any Netflix etc.
>
>Havent used them for more than a decade now. I did use them
>when adsl first showed up, basically in case there were problems. 

Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
(02) when we were allowed to use Optus I changed.
Problem here is like all bureaucracies they can't or won't fire
dickheads instead they sent them to Sydney's furtherest outpost.
A legacy of this was bodged copperwire instalation.
While waiting for phone in 80's to be installed they would park near
the pub all day. When it was pissing down with rain they might show up
to apoligize that it was too wett.
The house was wired while being built and no reason why the phone
should not of been ready when we moved in.

With the phone we got it was crackly and pretty bad even for modem.

Seems everyone was complaing, the local paper gave the email address
of a service manager (but had to sign up to Telstra) who selected his
own "techs" who found my phone wired wrong in less than 10 minutes.
This was after years and 1000's of "techs" who never fixed my bad
phone connection (like Jehovah witness knocking at your door all the
time)
-- 
Petzl

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#56569

FromLucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com>
Date2016-12-23 22:41 +1100
Message-ID<773q5c53i2r7d635h3niimck296gacad5k@4ax.com>
In reply to#56565
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:47:56 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well I hated Telecom. To ring across the road was a toll call, (046) 
>to (02).

That's not true. Same or adjacent zone is a local call.

>-- 
>Petzl

-- 
I call shenanigans on all theistic religions

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#56596

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-24 10:11 +1100
Message-ID<e3br5c9c9rus7gapiigj9ocrh51tr27sbb@4ax.com>
In reply to#56569
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:41:49 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
<Barry@saymyname.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:47:56 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Well I hated Telecom. To ring across the road was a toll call, (046) 
>>to (02).
>
>That's not true. Same or adjacent zone is a local call.
>
>>-- 
>>Petzl

Wasn't when Telecom was in charge 1980's.
infact a timber sawmill  Leumeah had two phones one end 02 the other
end 046

There was a stage where there were temporary movements/period, for a
while it went to 50 cents unlimited to break into the 02 barrier, but
didn't last long.

Calling Botany 02 for 15 minutes cost $15 in 2010's.
046 Campbelltown to Sydney 02.
Now to call via Skype to Japan Tokyo for around an hour cost me a
dollar.

Now with NBN calls nationwaide mobile and landline are free.
-- 
Petzl

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#56605

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-24 14:25 +1100
Message-ID<ec6854Fhnn7U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56596
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote 
> Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Well I hated Telecom. To ring across 
>>> the road was a toll call, (046) to (02).

>> That's not true. Same or adjacent zone is a local call.

> Wasn't when Telecom was in charge 1980's.

Yes it was. 

> infact a timber sawmill  Leumeah had two 
> phones one end 02 the other end 046

That is for a different reason. When you use the 046 line, 
you can call more places further away from Sydney proper 
for a local call charge than you can when you use the 02 
line. Same with the 02 line, that allows you to call more 
places north of sydney for the cost of a local call. 
 
> There was a stage where there were temporary 
> movements/period, for a while it went to 50 cents 
> unlimited to break into the 02 barrier, but didn't last long.
 
> Calling Botany 02 for 15 minutes cost $15 in 2010's.
> 046 Campbelltown to Sydney 02.
> Now to call via Skype to Japan Tokyo 
> for around an hour cost me a dollar.
 
> Now with NBN calls nationwaide mobile and landline are free.

Only because you pay extra per month to get that.  

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