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  Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-21 19:43 +1000
    Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 21:31 +1000
      Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-21 22:27 +1000
        Re: Malware & Spyware Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-05-21 23:50 +1000
        Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 10:09 +1000
          Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-22 11:03 +1000
    Re: Malware & Spyware SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2016-05-21 22:19 +1000
      Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-22 11:01 +1000
        Re: Malware & Spyware not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-05-22 01:11 +0000
          Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 11:19 +1000
          Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-22 12:55 +1000
            Re: Malware & Spyware Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2016-05-23 23:16 +0000
              Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-24 12:23 +1000
                Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-24 12:27 +1000
                Re: Malware & Spyware not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-05-24 23:13 +0000
                  Re: Malware & Spyware Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2016-05-24 23:53 +0000
                Re: Malware & Spyware Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-05-26 10:26 +0000
                  Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-26 23:31 +1000
                    Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-26 23:34 +1000
                      Re: Malware & Spyware not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-05-26 23:16 +0000
                        Re: Malware & Spyware Grumpy Tech <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-27 11:02 +1000
                          Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-28 00:44 +1000
                        Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-28 00:38 +1000
                          Re: Malware & Spyware not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-05-28 00:10 +0000
    Re: Malware & Spyware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 13:08 +1000
      Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 13:22 +1000
      Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-22 23:21 +1000
        Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 06:06 +1000
          Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-23 13:17 +1000
            Re: Malware & Spyware Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 16:41 +1000
              Re: Malware & Spyware felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-05-23 19:22 +1000
    Re: Malware & Spyware Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> - 2016-05-25 04:43 +1000

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#52805 — Malware & Spyware

Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security 
installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes 
and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed 
SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a 
trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running. 
what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!

-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52806

On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

>
>Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security 
>installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes 
>and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed 
>SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a 
>trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running. 
>what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!

they all miss stuff
Windows Defender tends to pick most up.
I use Spy Hunter which seems best for complete removal.
-- 
Petzl

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#52808

On 21-May-2016 9:31 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
> they all miss stuff
> Windows Defender tends to pick most up.
> I use Spy Hunter which seems best for complete removal.

$50 every six months! a bit steep :(


-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52809

On 21/05/2016 10:27 PM, felix wrote:
> On 21-May-2016 9:31 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>> they all miss stuff
>> Windows Defender tends to pick most up.
>> I use Spy Hunter which seems best for complete removal.
>
> $50 every six months! a bit steep :(
>
>
That depends on how much the hackers ask for when they hold your 
computer to ransom!  ;-)

Just think of it as just another Microsoft Tax.

-- 

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

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#52810

On Sat, 21 May 2016 22:27:19 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

>On 21-May-2016 9:31 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>> they all miss stuff
>> Windows Defender tends to pick most up.
>> I use Spy Hunter which seems best for complete removal.
>
>$50 every six months! a bit steep :(

MalWarebytes is good
Norton/Symantec have a freeone seems very good at removing Malware in
Windows.
https://security.symantec.com/nbrt/npe.aspx
-- 
Petzl

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#52812

On 22-May-2016 10:09 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2016 22:27:19 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 21-May-2016 9:31 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>> they all miss stuff
>>> Windows Defender tends to pick most up.
>>> I use Spy Hunter which seems best for complete removal.
>> $50 every six months! a bit steep :(
> MalWarebytes is good
> Norton/Symantec have a freeone seems very good at removing Malware in
> Windows.
> https://security.symantec.com/nbrt/npe.aspx

thanks I'll take a look


-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52807

On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:

> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security 
> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes 
> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed 
> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a 
> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running. 
> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!


To get you to buy the product.

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#52811

On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>
>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>
> To get you to buy the product.

That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't 
really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than 
everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found 
nothing. still I'm a little concerned

-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52813

felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>
>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>
>> To get you to buy the product.
> 
> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't 
> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than 
> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found 
> nothing. still I'm a little concerned

Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
viruses themselves (and of course, some are).

Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC, then
any slow performance is most likely due to them, rather than any
infection. You've been listening to Petzl's advise too much.

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#52814

On Sun, 22 May 2016 01:11:56 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

>felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>>
>>> To get you to buy the product.
>> 
>> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't 
>> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than 
>> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found 
>> nothing. still I'm a little concerned
>
>Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
>viruses themselves (and of course, some are).
>
>Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC, then
>any slow performance is most likely due to them, rather than any
>infection. You've been listening to Petzl's advise too much.

I just use Windows Defender on all the time.
once a week I do a full scan with SpyHunter which rarely detects
anything.
That's the only recommendation I have ever given?
Your choice of mal.ware detection is up to you.
-- 
Petzl

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#52815

On 22-May-2016 11:11 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>> To get you to buy the product.
>> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't
>> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than
>> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found
>> nothing. still I'm a little concerned
> Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
> viruses themselves (and of course, some are).

which ones are?

>
> Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC,

I'm not. I'm only running Kaspersky. I just installed and ran the others 
to see what they could find, if anything. they are spyware/malware 
programs not AV. I wont be having them running. I'll just scan with them 
periodically and use them to remove anything they find.

> then
> any slow performance is most likely due to them, rather than any
> infection. You've been listening to Petzl's advise too much.
>


-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52827

felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
> On 22-May-2016 11:11 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>>> To get you to buy the product.
>>> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't
>>> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than
>>> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found
>>> nothing. still I'm a little concerned
>> Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
>> viruses themselves (and of course, some are).
> 
> which ones are?

Ransomware sorts that insist they've found a virus and prevent you from
uninstalling them until you've paid for the "full copy". The idea of them
being an anti-virus program is just a vague cover story. They're usually
spread in the same way as other viruses, such as in Email attachments.

>> Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC,
> 
> I'm not. I'm only running Kaspersky. I just installed and ran the others 
> to see what they could find, if anything. they are spyware/malware 
> programs not AV. I wont be having them running. I'll just scan with them 
> periodically and use them to remove anything they find.

If your computer is running OK and Kaspersky says things are fine, why would
you trust these junky free programs to do better? Mind you, I am aware of one
program that is supposably works well and is designed to run once, without
installation. I forget the name, but I'll try to find the bookmark another
time. Mind you, it might well have turned into another spam thing by now.

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#52829

On 24-May-2016 9:16 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> On 22-May-2016 11:11 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have MalwareBytes
>>>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still running.
>>>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>>>> To get you to buy the product.
>>>> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't
>>>> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than
>>>> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it found
>>>> nothing. still I'm a little concerned
>>> Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
>>> viruses themselves (and of course, some are).
>> which ones are?
> Ransomware sorts that insist they've found a virus and prevent you from
> uninstalling them until you've paid for the "full copy". The idea of them
> being an anti-virus program is just a vague cover story. They're usually
> spread in the same way as other viruses, such as in Email attachments.
>
>>> Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC,
>> I'm not. I'm only running Kaspersky. I just installed and ran the others
>> to see what they could find, if anything. they are spyware/malware
>> programs not AV. I wont be having them running. I'll just scan with them
>> periodically and use them to remove anything they find.
> If your computer is running OK and Kaspersky says things are fine, why would
> you trust these junky free programs to do better?

I was just trying out some programs to evaluate them, and doing some PC 
housekeeping. I find the software from this site 
http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php to be very good. there are free and 
paid versions, and the free versions do offer quite a lot, considering 
they're free, and more than other similar free progs I've tried. it did 
get rid of a lot of junk and sped the computer up a bit. I also used it 
to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at once, 
which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that the 
front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse receiver 
for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the rear 
USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to resolve. do you 
have any clues?

> Mind you, I am aware of one
> program that is supposably works well and is designed to run once, without
> installation. I forget the name, but I'll try to find the bookmark another
> time. Mind you, it might well have turned into another spam thing by now.
>


-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52830

On 24-May-2016 12:23 PM, felix wrote:
> On 24-May-2016 9:16 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 22-May-2016 11:11 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 21-May-2016 10:19 PM, SolomonW wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:43:06 +1000, felix wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Been doing a bit of PC cleanup. I have Kaspersky Internet Security
>>>>>>> installed and it has not detected any problems. I also have 
>>>>>>> MalwareBytes
>>>>>>> and it has not detected any problems either. I have just installed
>>>>>>> SpyHunter and ran it, and it has found heaps of stuff, including a
>>>>>>> trojan dialer. so far it's listed 202 'infections' and still 
>>>>>>> running.
>>>>>>> what gives??!! why is it finding stuff and the others didn't?!
>>>>>> To get you to buy the product.
>>>>> That's what I'm thinking. it's a con, and finding stuff that isn't
>>>>> really spyware or malware. either that or it's SO much better than
>>>>> everything else. I did a full scan with Kaspersky overnight and it 
>>>>> found
>>>>> nothing. still I'm a little concerned
>>>> Yep, probably. A lot of these anti-virus programs behave almost like
>>>> viruses themselves (and of course, some are).
>>> which ones are?
>> Ransomware sorts that insist they've found a virus and prevent you from
>> uninstalling them until you've paid for the "full copy". The idea of 
>> them
>> being an anti-virus program is just a vague cover story. They're usually
>> spread in the same way as other viruses, such as in Email attachments.
>>
>>>> Frankly, if you're running three virus programs on the same PC,
>>> I'm not. I'm only running Kaspersky. I just installed and ran the 
>>> others
>>> to see what they could find, if anything. they are spyware/malware
>>> programs not AV. I wont be having them running. I'll just scan with 
>>> them
>>> periodically and use them to remove anything they find.
>> If your computer is running OK and Kaspersky says things are fine, 
>> why would
>> you trust these junky free programs to do better?
>
> I was just trying out some programs to evaluate them, and doing some 
> PC housekeeping. I find the software from this site 
> http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php to be very good. there are free and 
> paid versions, and the free versions do offer quite a lot, considering 
> they're free, and more than other similar free progs I've tried. it 
> did get rid of a lot of junk and sped the computer up a bit. I also 
> used it to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at 
> once, which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that 
> the front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse 
> receiver for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? 
> the rear USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to 
> resolve. do you have any clues?

I'll just add too that their uninstaller is great. after it uninstalls a 
prog it goes looking for leftover stuff like registry entries, folders, 
etc/., and removes them too, so you don't need to run Ccleaner or such

-- 
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52837

felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
> I also used it 
> to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at once, 
> which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that the 
> front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse receiver 
> for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the rear 
> USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to resolve. do you 
> have any clues?

Only a technical explanation, which is that keyboards and mice are usually
recognised by windows as a special "HID Device" class, which means they can
use the internal generic windows drivers instead of looking for a driver
specifically matched to the model of mouse/keyboard.

Practically speaking, if you have any mouse driver software installed,
uninstall it (there probably much advantage to running it anyway).
Otherwise, of course you could downgrade your USB driver software.

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#52839

On 25 May 2016, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I also used it 
>> to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them
>> all at once, which you're not supposed to do, but it
>> worked well, except that the front USB ports no longer
>> 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse receiver for a
>> cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the
>> rear USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need
>> to resolve. do you have any clues?
> 
> Only a technical explanation, which is that keyboards and
> mice are usually recognised by windows as a special "HID
> Device" class, which means they can use the internal
> generic windows drivers instead of looking for a driver 
> specifically matched to the model of mouse/keyboard. 
> 
> Practically speaking, if you have any mouse driver software
> installed, uninstall it (there probably much advantage to
> running it anyway). Otherwise, of course you could
> downgrade your USB driver software. 

And of course look at what it says in Device Manager.

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#52852

felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> I was just trying out some programs to evaluate them, and doing some PC 
> housekeeping. I find the software from this site 
> http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php to be very good. there are free and 
> paid versions, and the free versions do offer quite a lot, considering 
> they're free, and more than other similar free progs I've tried. it did 
> get rid of a lot of junk and sped the computer up a bit. I also used it 
> to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at once, 
> which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that the 
> front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse receiver 
> for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the rear 
> USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to resolve. do you 
> have any clues?

  My advice: Do *NOT* update drivers, *unless* you have a problem which
*specifically* relates to a *specific* driver and then update only that
driver.

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#52853

On 26-May-2016 8:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> I was just trying out some programs to evaluate them, and doing some PC
>> housekeeping. I find the software from this site
>> http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php to be very good. there are free and
>> paid versions, and the free versions do offer quite a lot, considering
>> they're free, and more than other similar free progs I've tried. it did
>> get rid of a lot of junk and sped the computer up a bit. I also used it
>> to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at once,
>> which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that the
>> front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse receiver
>> for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the rear
>> USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to resolve. do you
>> have any clues?
>    My advice: Do *NOT* update drivers, *unless* you have a problem which
> *specifically* relates to a *specific* driver and then update only that
> driver.

yes, good advice a little late. unfortunately I trusted the software to 
do it. the computer is running better, as a lot of drivers needed 
updating, but it has created the problem of the front USB ports not 
'seeing' a corded mouse or the receiver for a cordless mouse. but the 
sockets do have power, and will load USB sticks. so far I have been 
unable to fix this issue. I tried uninstalling all USB drivers and 
everything in the HID and mouse sections of device manager, but to no 
avail. I have been able to use the cordless mouse by plugging the 
receiver into a rear USB socket via a USB hub, but the computer wont 
boot unless I first unplug the receiver from the hub. weird goings on. I 
remembered after using this driver install software that drivers are 
supposed to be installed one at a time so any problem can be associated 
with a specific driver.


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#52854

On 26-May-2016 11:31 PM, felix wrote:
> On 26-May-2016 8:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> I was just trying out some programs to evaluate them, and doing some PC
>>> housekeeping. I find the software from this site
>>> http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php to be very good. there are free and
>>> paid versions, and the free versions do offer quite a lot, considering
>>> they're free, and more than other similar free progs I've tried. it did
>>> get rid of a lot of junk and sped the computer up a bit. I also used it
>>> to update drivers, 33 in fact! unfortunately I did them all at once,
>>> which you're not supposed to do, but it worked well, except that the
>>> front USB ports no longer 'see' a USB corded mouse or USB mouse 
>>> receiver
>>> for a cordless mouse, but they do see USB sticks. weird huh? the rear
>>> USB ports work fine. so that is the only issue I need to resolve. do 
>>> you
>>> have any clues?
>>    My advice: Do *NOT* update drivers, *unless* you have a problem which
>> *specifically* relates to a *specific* driver and then update only that
>> driver.
>
> yes, good advice a little late. unfortunately I trusted the software 
> to do it. the computer is running better, as a lot of drivers needed 
> updating, but it has created the problem of the front USB ports not 
> 'seeing' a corded mouse or the receiver for a cordless mouse. but the 
> sockets do have power, and will load USB sticks. so far I have been 
> unable to fix this issue. I tried uninstalling all USB drivers and 
> everything in the HID and mouse sections of device manager, but to no 
> avail. I have been able to use the cordless mouse by plugging the 
> receiver into a rear USB socket via a USB hub, but the computer wont 
> boot unless I first unplug the receiver from the hub. weird goings on. 
> I remembered after using this driver install software that drivers are 
> supposed to be installed one at a time so any problem can be 
> associated with a specific driver.
>
>

p.s thank goodness for the trusty old PS2 mouse in situations like 
this!.. :)


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-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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#52858

felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
> On 26-May-2016 11:31 PM, felix wrote:
>>
>> yes, good advice a little late. unfortunately I trusted the software 
>> to do it. the computer is running better, as a lot of drivers needed 
>> updating, but it has created the problem of the front USB ports not 
>> 'seeing' a corded mouse or the receiver for a cordless mouse. but the 
>> sockets do have power, and will load USB sticks. so far I have been 
>> unable to fix this issue. I tried uninstalling all USB drivers and 
>> everything in the HID and mouse sections of device manager, but to no 
>> avail. I have been able to use the cordless mouse by plugging the 
>> receiver into a rear USB socket via a USB hub, but the computer wont 
>> boot unless I first unplug the receiver from the hub. weird goings on. 
>> I remembered after using this driver install software that drivers are 
>> supposed to be installed one at a time so any problem can be 
>> associated with a specific driver.
>>
>>
> 
> p.s thank goodness for the trusty old PS2 mouse in situations like 
> this!.. :)

Just one more thing you could try: turning off PS/2 emulation of USB
mouse in the BIOS, if the option is there.

Any error message when the computer won't boot?

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