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Re: My speed again

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: My speed again
Date 2017-11-27 19:26 +1100
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"FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5a1baa0d$0$42809$b1db1813$fea9e181@news.astraweb.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5a1b9faf$0$55061$b1db1813$76d77b46@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5a1b6543$0$1262$b1db1813$3944f902@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5a1b5965$0$41262$b1db1813$f9722a78@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:5a1a9b7f$0$46394$b1db1813$46202bfe@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:5a19757f$0$55070$b1db1813$76d77b46@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:5a191101$0$1828$b1db1813$e2fc663e@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:5a17d815$0$50464$b1db1813$d8d38339@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My speed with VPN through Switzerland.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6818796296
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s completely irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speed without VPN through Sydney,bear in mind I have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 43down in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning.myrepublic blames NBN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet they are right about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6818804872
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you get with speedtest.myrepublic.com.au ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the synch rates in the modem status page ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the ombudsman do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing if the synch rates in the modem are better than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12/1,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you arent getting more than 5 dropouts a day. NBNco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t have to do anything about your obvious fault in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You had massive problems with your adsl service and you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly still using the copper to the pillar that has the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aussie Broadband does sometimes kick NBNco co more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most, and has a month free trial for whirlpoolers, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do unlimited and are much more expensive than MR and if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on contract with MR, there's a $199 exit fee and you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the modem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to log in to router with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://192.168.1.1/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through sea monkey or IE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s a real worry. Could well be that it just needs a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been game to reset router as it is ages before it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with dodgy line but I suppose I will have to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, its very likely the problem, it just needs a reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried that yesterday and had to wait till today for it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you cant connect to https://192.168.1.1/ after a reboot, its
>>>>>>>>>>>> died.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On an attempt through firefox in linux I got
>>>>>>>>>>> Your connection is not secure,the owner of 192.168.1.1 has
>>>>>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>>>>> their web site improperly,to protect your information from being
>>>>>>>>>>> stolen firefox has not connected to this website.
>>>>>>>>>>> invalid security certificate
>>>>>>>>>>> tried to add exception, did not work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Felix is right, you should be using just 192.168.1.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just got on to them earlier and went through the rigamarole
>>>>>>>>>>> again He
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed it was slow but working he tested and looked in modem and
>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>> it was ok. so knowing what would happen I said how about I do
>>>>>>>>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>>>> reset and you can wait for it to reboot then test again. so he
>>>>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>>>>> back in 5 or so minutes and it had not connected (it connected
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> 3or 4 hours later)
>>>>>>>>>>> He is going to send new modem and maybe tech
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Could VPN have set something strange in modem preventing my 
>>>>>>>>>>> login
>>>>>>>>>>> (proxies etc)which should not be a problem,and anyway should be
>>>>>>>>>>> reset
>>>>>>>>>>> on factory reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks more likely the logon problem is just that you should be
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.1 not the full form you said you are using
>>>>>>>>>> https://192.168.1.1/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you can now logon using just 192.168.1.1, post the modem stats
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have fixed problem, mea culpa I just would not believe it was my
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>> as it was always telstra,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, there is no substitute for completely rigorous
>>>>>>>> testing when its not obvious where the fault is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just got off my backside and started testing and searching and
>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>> the meeces had chewed through at the point of entry cabling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting that it worked at all. Its surprising what vdsl can
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>> work thru fault wise. There doesn’t even need to be electrical
>>>>>>>> continuity.
>>>>>>> When I finally found it it only had one wire connected it had a
>>>>>>> tenous
>>>>>>> connection with another that fell away as I inspected it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fixed it up with some telstra connectors I have a bottle of and
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> now got
>>>>>>>>> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6826124661
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very decent result.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> back again, And can now logon with 192.168.1.1 in the address bar
>>>>>>>>> without the http://(not browser input)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So post the modem status page so we have a record of that for the
>>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WAN sensing configuration
>>>>>>> Auto WAN sensing
>>>>>>> Broadband type
>>>>>>> Mode
>>>>>>> VDSL
>>>>>>> Physical link status
>>>>>>> DSL Status
>>>>>>> Up
>>>>>>> DSL Enabled
>>>>>>> DSL Uptime
>>>>>>> 13hours 52minutes 59seconds
>>>>>>> DSL Type
>>>>>>> VDSL2
>>>>>>> DSL Mode
>>>>>>> Fast
>>>>>>> Maximum Line rate
>>>>>>> 16.01 Mbps 48.39 Mbps
>>>>>>> Line Rate
>>>>>>> 16.01 Mbps 46.25 Mbps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those are what they should be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the ratio is about right, likely you
>>>>>> now have the incoming line going just
>>>>>> to the modem, no extra phone sockets.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the same as it always was, has sockets but nothing connected
>>>>
>>>> Then you will do better if you remove them electrically
>>>> unless they are wired in a daisy chain and the modem
>>>> is in the last one, electrically furthest from the street cable.
>>>
>>> That is it basically, but someday when I get a TUIT and some cable
>>> from the wholesaler I will change the situation.
>>
>> You don’t need any cable, just use some sidecutters to electrically
>> disconnect the unused phone sockets from the incoming line.

> Too much trouble, the wiring darts every which way in the roof from one 
> socket to the next with the modem on the end.

If the modem is electrically on the end, and you get a lower synch
when you put the modem on the other sockets for a test, there isnt
any point in point in removing the extras sockets, there are no spurs.

>>> Its irrelevant whether there is anything plugged into them,
>>>> what matters is the cable going to them. If its electrically
>>>> connected to the line that is electrically connected to the
>>>> street cable and form a spur, they resonate at VDSL2
>>>> frequencys and reduce the synch rate in the modem.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Data Transferred
>>>>>>> 164.21 MBytes 363.52 Bytes
>>>>>>> Output Power
>>>>>>> 7.5 dBm 13.5 dBm
>>>>>>> Line Attenuation
>>>>>>> 7.6, 38.5, 74.5 dB 17.9, 47.9, 82.0 dB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last frequency band attenuations
>>>>>> are a little high and that’s due to the
>>>>>> poor street cabling, too many poor joins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noise Margin
>>>>>>> 6.7 dB 6.8 dB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s about right too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should have done this in the first place.
>>>>>>>>> Just tried to tell myrepublic but the system was not on so
>>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>>> entering direct he is sending email to cancel things tomorrow but 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> bet it wont be quick enough to stop sending modem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Going to be interesting to see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just got on to them again and I might have been quick enough to stop
>>>>>> modem, and I asked about speed and he said coexistance may be 
>>>>>> stopping
>>>>>>> even faster speeds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, its not clear how much difference that will make, very
>>>>>> few have come out of coexistence yet so we don’t have any
>>>>>> reports of what difference it makes from the field yet.
 

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