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Re: Stan, Netflix

From Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.tv, aus.computers
Subject Re: Stan, Netflix
Date 2017-11-03 23:28 +1100
Message-ID <f635n7Flld7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2/11/2017 10:59 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/11/2017 3:02 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 2/11/2017 1:37 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2017 5:25 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 1/11/2017 7:30 PM, Trevor wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2017 7:03 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/11/2017 6:51 PM, Trevor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 4:55 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 2:23 PM, Trevor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 1:15 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I still have my Vic20 and progs I wrote for it on audio 
>>>>>>>>>> cassettes, which it uses
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But when was the last time you turned it on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> don't remember. I assume it still works. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a bet I would make without actually trying it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fair call. it worked last time I tried it several years ago, it's 
>>>>>> been in a pristine environment since
>>>>>
>>>>> And fortunately doesn't have the really crappy Chinese electro caps 
>>>>> that many later electronic devices suffer from. But they still 
>>>>> should be powered on regularly for maximum life. And it still uses 
>>>>> other parts that don't last forever. I bet any rubber parts in the 
>>>>> tape machine are turning back into oil by now for a start.
>>>>
>>>> hmmm. might we worth dragging it out and having a look and firing it up
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trevor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sudden death is a *real* possibility. There are two types of power 
>>> supply, one with a 2 pin connector and another with a 7 pin DIN 
>>> connector.
>>>
>>> If it's the latter it probably came with a brick of death and there 
>>> is a real chance that powering up will kill the VIC-20. The good and 
>>> bad news   part about that is the 6561 PAL VIC chip is toast is that 
>>> you might still be able to source one, but the bad news is that they 
>>> are getting pricey.
>>>
>>> It's the chip that does video and audio and a common failure point.
>>>
>>> The 2 pin AC input VIC has it's regulator inside and some beefy caps 
>>> that dry out, but in my experience the internal regulator and caps 
>>> are pretty robust.
>>>
>>> As for the data cassette, probably best to take the back off and 
>>> check the belt before you try to use it. You can't use any old 
>>> cassette deck with the VIC either, so don't chuck it out - belts are 
>>> easy to replace.
>>>
>>> I guess you were never rich enough to own a 1540 disk drive intended 
>>> for use with the VIC-20?
>>>
>> I used the built in drives. SX64. Dreadful computer.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> The SX64 had a built in drive and a colour monitor and was a completely 
> different beast to the VIC-20.

Well, it was a C64, effectively, so not a Vic20, yes.

> There was nothing inherently dreadful about them at the time and there 
> certainly isn't today.

Slow drives, but they were all like that. The colour screen was 
absolutely dreadful to use. It was simply too small at 5" and the 
resolution too poor. If it was monochrome at that size, it would have 
been readable.


-- 

Xeno

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