Re: Fibre

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Fibre
Date	2016-12-28 18:13 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:01 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
>>>>>>>>>because I call using voip which is untimed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Does that include mobile calls nationally?
>>>>>>>>Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
>>>>>>>>get mobile calls included in package.
>>>>>>>>Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does 
>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>come off my data count/use).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
>>>>>>> Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
>>>>>>> Does that sound reasonable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
>>>>>>I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like to see what speed you do end up with.
>>>>
>>>>So will I.
>>>>
>>>>> Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection
>>>>
>>>>I already have that, 8/1
>>>>
>>>>> as your copperwire is nearer house.
>>>>
>>>>VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+
>>>
>>> I meant  ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
>>> depending on copper wire to house connection.
>>
>>Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
>>ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
>>VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.
>>
>>> I think I'm supposed to be on
>>> 50Mbs but only getting half that.
>>
>>You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.
>>
>>How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
>>It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
>>you are between the pillar and the exchange.
>>
>>You can see which pillar you are on using
>>https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
>>That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox 
>>and
>>pale
>>moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
>>about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.
>>
>>You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the
>>address,
>>but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
>>drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
>>on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
>>is painted on your pillar cover.
>>
>>Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
>>wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
>>DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
>>The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
>>of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
>>Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
>>Google Street view to do that.
>>
>>If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
>>it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.
>>
>>https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
>>gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
>>the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.
>>
>>What did you do about the wiring in your house ?
>>
>>VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
>>your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
>>Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
>>into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
>>the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
>>to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
>>frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.
>>
>>In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
>>detail of the cabling between your house and the
>>pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
>>on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
>>be obsolete now.
>
> Thanks for this Rod, Telstra have removed many pillars now I only see
> one where there was none before the only number is on the cabinet
> 2CBT-08-18-FNO-001
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/DSCN0485.JPG
>
> I think I'll ring the Philippines again Telstra are unable to give me
> detailes of what plan I pay for.

It should be on your bill.

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