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Re: Johnny Dep's dogs

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.tv, aus.politics, aus.computers
Subject Re: Johnny Dep's dogs
Date 2015-06-03 16:06 +1000
Message-ID <ct7k0oF9iakU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (9 earlier) <mk0tfd$gbg$1@dont-email.me> <y7idnUsQ-YzNZ_7InZ2dnUVZ7s2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <mk6on8$2nj$1@dont-email.me> <TK-dnbRBwbzp6frInZ2dnUVZ8ludnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <mklp81$oc$1@dont-email.me>

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"Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message 
news:mklp81$oc$1@dont-email.me...
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> "dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:TK-dnbRBwbzp6frInZ2dnUVZ8ludnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
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>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message 
>> news:mk6on8$2nj$1@dont-email.me...
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>>> "dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:y7idnUsQ-YzNZ_7InZ2dnUVZ7s2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message 
>>>> news:mk0tfd$gbg$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>> "dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:U7qdnfY8-uB39MDInZ2dnUVZ8k2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:mjjjao$f56$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Fran Farmer" <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:mjh265$mtl$2@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> On 20/05/2015 6:45 AM, dechucka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Damian" <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:mjfplm$2fh$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Fran Farmer" <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:mjf1ka$vgg$10@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/05/2015 1:15 PM, Damian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "pedro" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:3qsflaprvcd62u5odk475bhmfig9on487q@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 May 2015 19:20:48 +1000, felix_unger 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <me@nothere.biz>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it. Why couldn't the govt just give him a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'telling off' ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and put the dogs in quarantine? It's not a good look for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatening to kill and movie star's dogs, especially in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and now the US authorities are apparently requiring them to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quarantined there, as they seem to consider Australia is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rabies-free.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is not rabies free at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ???What do you mean by that comment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly what I wrote.  We may have a far better record than yanks 
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> it comes to rabies, but we are not free of it.
>>>>>>>>>> One of the reasons we have no recorded rabies incidents in here, 
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> necessarily because we've done great with our quarantine and
>>>>>>>>>> vaccinantion work,
>>>>>>>>>> but because of the dogs and cats(and many other's who carry it) 
>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>> native to Australia, as well as being a large island.. So, AFAIK,
>>>>>>>>>> native animals don't catch it.
>>>>>>>>>> So, some dogs and cat's in remote areas may have it and may have
>>>>>>>>>> developed resistance already. It's quite possible with the feral 
>>>>>>>>>> fox
>>>>>>>>>> and cat population, considering there are more
>>>>>>>>>> of them than humans. It's quite possible feral cats, foxes, dogs 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> dingos may have caught it from bats and have already developed
>>>>>>>>>> resistance.
>>>>>>>>>> Whether the australian dogs, cats  developed the resistance to 
>>>>>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>>>>> human-dog rabies is another issue.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think anybody wanna try it out on their dog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We don't have rabies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.  And easily checked with the assistance of a search engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>> Keep living in your searrch engine bubble, until you get bitten by a 
>>>>>>> rabies infected flying fox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Won't happen in Australia at the moment
>>>>> except nobody seems to have balls to get bitten by a lyssavirus 
>>>>> infected flying foxes for the sake of a double blind test,  eh?
>>>>
>>>> How would being bitten by a  lyssavirus  infected bat be a double blind 
>>>> test for rabies?
>>>
>>> It's a test for bat lyssavirus disease you silly.
>>
>> so it isn't a double blind tet for rabies

> IMO, it's the 'same' thing.

Your pig ignorant opinion is completely irrelevant, it isn't.

> One(which should be you) can have the bat lyssavirus injected. 
> Another(which should be me) can have a nocebo agent.
> The potential threat is quite similar.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> I can assure there won't be a single medical scientist who will willingly 
> inject bat lyssavirus for the sake of a science experiment.
> 'cos even the scientific knowledge we have so far about these viruses are 
> anecdotal.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> We have a long way to go about understanding the way viruses mutate and 
> the way seemingly "innocent" viruses become deadly in a snap of a finger.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> Epidemiology has a long way to go as well.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> We haven't found any 'cure' for rabies after thousands of years, have we?

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> The so called vaccine has already been available in asian countries for 
> over thousand years via their natural medicines.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> One of the herbal concoction treatment methods used in South Asia, 
> actually brings up the rabies symptoms in the patient, effectively 
> boosting the immunity without killing the patient.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> After few weeks, many patients bounce back without any serious long term 
> effects.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> But, that only works if the treatment has begun before the real symtoms 
> has started. The same rule as western vaccine still applies.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> That 'cos we know very little about viruses over all.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

> Being complacent and arrogant about our biosecurit is not an option for 
> me.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

>>> I call it bat rabies. smite me if you don't like it.
>>
>> the God of logic will do that
>
> There's no such entity. I know that for sure.
> That's why I'm so confident.
> I can confidently say to God  that he can show it where sun doesn't shine.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>Do you know what a double blind test/trial is?
>>>
>>> Do you?
>>
>> Yes, been involved in running enough over the years
>
> Good for you. It's good thing you're still alive with such involvments.
> 

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