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Re: Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing 'unlawful orders'

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From Hartung's DD-214 <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com>
Newsgroups alt.utter.fools, az.politics, alt.politics.democrats.senate, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics
Date 2025-11-25 03:49 -0500
Subject Re: Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing 'unlawful orders'

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On 24 Nov 2025, "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoetoro@americans-first.com>
posted some news:lnsB3A1B11E7C4AA6F089P2473@0.0.0.1: 

> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/24/mark-kelly-pentagon-trump.html
> 
> The Pentagon on Monday said that it was reviewing what it called
> “serious allegations of misconduct” against Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona
> for making a video with five other Democratic lawmakers that urged
> members of the military to refuse to follow illegal orders.
> 
> President Donald Trump last week called Kelly, who is a retired U.S.
> Navy captain, and the other lawmakers “traitors,” and said that their 
> statements on the video were “seditious behavior at the highest
> level.” 

He's correct.

> Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in a statement on X announcing the
> probe of Kelly, said, “The video made by the ‘Seditious Six’ was
> despicable, reckless, and false.”
> 
> “Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of their Commanders 
> undermines every aspect of ’good order and discipline,” said Hegseth.

Take them out back and shoot them, pour encourager les autres.

> “Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under
> @DeptofWar jurisdiction,” Hegseth wrote.” However, Mark Kelly (retired
> Navy Commander) is still subject to UCMJ — and he knows that.”

Article 88 applies.  

> UCMJ is the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
> 
> The Pentagon, in its own statement on X, said that a “thorough review
> of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions,
> which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings
> or administrative measures.”
> 
> “This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring
> due process and impartiality,” the Pentagon said in the statement.
> 
> Kelly, in a statement posted on X, said, “Secretary Hegseth’s tweet is
> the first I heard of this. I also saw the President’s posts saying I
> should be arrested, hanged, and put to death.”
> 
> “If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from 
> doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t 
> work,” Kelly wrote in his tweet.

You won't be talking much shit in a brig.

> “I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who
> care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution.
> 
> In the video posted on X on Nov. 18, Kelly had said, “Our laws are
> clear: you can refuse illegal orders.”
> 
> The five other Democrats who underscored that same message on the
> video were Michigan Sen. Elissa Slotkin, as well as House Reps. Jason
> Crow of Colorado, Maggie Goodlander of New Hampshire, and Chris
> Deluzio and Chrissy Houlahan, both of Pennsylvania.
> 
> Trump, in a Truth Social post on Thursday, said, “Each one of these 
> traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL.”
> 
> “Their words cannot be allowed to stand — We won’t have a Country 
> anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET.”
> 
> The Pentagon, in its statement Monday, said, “The Department of War 
> reminds all individuals that military retirees remain subject to the
> UCMJ for applicable offenses, and federal laws such as 18 U.S.C. §
> 2387 prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale,
> or good order and discipline of the armed forces.”
> 
> “All servicemembers are reminded that they have a legal obligation
> under the UCMJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to
> be lawful.” according to the statement. “A servicemember’s personal
> philosophy does not justify or excuse the disobedience of an otherwise
> lawful order.” 

That's correct.  Militarists don't get to pick and choose what orders
they will follow, especially in the heat of battle. 

That's where gutless Democrats would all get killed because they'd want
to debate how they got killed.  

BANG! 

Done.

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Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing 'unlawful orders' "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoetoro@americans-first.com> - 2025-11-25 01:24 +0000
  Re: Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing 'unlawful orders' Hartung's DD-214 <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2025-11-25 03:49 -0500
  Re: Sen. Mark Kelly faces Pentagon investigation for making video on refusing 'unlawful orders' Furis Rubian <carbon@blackfriday.com> - 2025-11-27 07:22 +0000

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