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| Subject | Re: Jeffrey Goldberg Accidentally Proved His 'Signalgate' Narrative Is a Hoax |
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| Message-ID | <20250329.103337.048a819c@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> (permalink) |
| References | <XnsB2AFDFE8B26CBX@135.181.20.170> <vs4q9c$dhn$1@panix3.panix.com> <vs75je$3le63$2@dont-email.me> |
| Date | 2025-03-29 10:33 +0100 |
| Newsgroups | alt.testing.testing |
| From | orangedog <ordog@your.service.biz> |
In <vs75je$3le63$2@dont-email.me> somebody wrote: > > The Democrats' latest effort to manufacture a Trump administration scandal > blew up in their faces this week after Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief > of The Atlantic, reported that he was somehow included in an encrypted > Signal chat group with top administration officials discussing a planned > attack on Houthi rebels in Yemen. According to Goldberg, officials > discussed classified and/or top-secret war plans. > > No one disputes that Goldberg was erroneously included in the chat, but > the real issue is whether classified or top-secret war plans were actually > discussed. > > CIA Director John Ratcliffe and DNI Director Tulsi Gabbard testified that > nothing classified or top secret was discussed in the chat. Others in the > administration have said the same thing. > > Goldberg had been given the opening to release the chats in their entirety > to prove them wrong. But he insisted that he wouldn’t. > > During an interview on The Bulwark Podcast with Tim Miller, Goldberg > repeatedly evaded calls to produce evidence, raising serious questions > about the credibility of his claims. > > Miller directly challenged Goldberg, pointing out that top Trump > administration officials had accused him of lying. “Now, the Secretary of > Defense and the White House Press Secretary have said you’re lying, have > said there are no war plans there, have said there’s no classified > information,” Miller stated. “So the obvious question is, shouldn’t you > now demonstrate it? Shouldn’t you publish the text?” > > Goldberg flatly refused. “No, because they’re wrong. They’re wrong,” he > insisted, offering no proof to back up his claims. > > Here's the problem with that claim: In the encrypted chat, National > Security Advisor Michael Waltz explicitly mentioned the participants' > “high side” inboxes, a reference to the classified system. This made it > clear they knew certain topics couldn’t be discussed on the Signal > platform. > > Miller pressed Goldberg further in the interview, asking whether he would > at least provide the alleged messages to congressional intelligence > committees. Instead of responding substantively, Goldberg deflected with > sarcasm. “Wow. What? You wanna become my lawyer?” he quipped with an > annoyed tone. He clearly wasn’t comfortable with the line of questioning, > and I got the sense he was hiding something. > > As the conversation continued, Goldberg struggled to justify his refusal > to produce evidence, resorting to vague justifications. “Just because > they’re irresponsible with material doesn’t mean that I’m gonna be > irresponsible with this material,” he said. He further attempted to cast > doubt on the administration’s credibility, suggesting officials were > merely trying to “get out of a jam.” > > In a final attempt to defend his decision, Goldberg framed it as a matter > of principle. “I have a pretty clear standard in my own behavior of what I > consider information that I consider to be in the public interest, even > if it’s technically classified or not,” he said, adding that he was > “sticking to my principles.” > > Yet on Wednesday, Goldberg published the full chat after all. He went from > insisting he was being responsible by not publishing the full chat to > publishing it while claiming that in doing so, he was proving the Trump > administration was mischaracterizing the sensitivity of the chats. > > Goldberg went against his self-proclaimed “principles” when he published > the chat. If he truly felt it contained top secret or classified > information, the principles he claims to hold dear would have kept him > from releasing it. By releasing the chat in full, he proved his entire > narrative about the situation was a hoax. > > Goldberg’s actions only undermined his claims, revealing he was lying > about top-secret or classified information being discussed. The content of > the chat reveals no war plans or classified details, just a discussion > weighing the pros and cons of striking now versus waiting. It’s a > conversation among cabinet members and staffers on the best way to move > forward. > > After this weekend, this non-story will be just a memory, and Goldberg > will move on to making other false accusations against the Trump > administration. Remember, this is the same guy who has a history of > publishing fake stories about President Trump. > > https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/03/26/jeffrey-goldberg-just-proved- > his-signalgate-narrative-is-a-hoax-n4938288 He's a Jew. Of course he's a lying shit bag. They all are.
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Re: Jeffrey Goldberg Accidentally Proved His 'Signalgate' Narrative Is a Hoax orangedog <ordog@your.service.biz> - 2025-03-29 10:33 +0100
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