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| From | David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp10 |
| Subject | Re: Running ADV (advent.tap) on T10 |
| Date | 2026-01-23 08:22 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 1/22/26 12:38 PM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> David Todd writes:
>> And I'm not sure. The program starts with Crowther's name, and it
>> seems to be the one I ran in '78 or so on a KA-10. But it's possible
>> that the code was modified or rewritten and used Crowther's .DAT file,
>> which is where Crother's name comes up in the intro ("(ERRORS,
>> SUGGESTIONS, COMPLAINTS TO CROWTHER) ". I did see an acknowledgement
>> somewhere (not in the code) of Woods working with Crowther to extend
>> it. No authorship cited in the source code (other than IFILE.FOR).
>
> Among a few versions I have, the original Crowther code is just one
> source file and has the phrase you mention, and nothing about Woods.
> The newer versions say "This program was originally developed by Willie
> Crowther. Most of the features of the current program were added by Don
> Woods."
Thanks, Lars.
Yes, I think the version that Jayjwa pointed to in the first note about
this is actually Crowther's original version. One long source file,
adv.f4, and a smaller file, iofil.for. I think adv.f4 is Crowther's
original code, which ran on a KA-10 DEC-10; iofil.for was written to
adapt it to the DEC-20's OPEN statement. The coding style in ADV.F4 is
pretty crude -- the sort of thing you might put together quickly for
your two daughters. ;-)
The FUN:ADVENT.EXE file *seems* to be the Woods version. It starts by
saying "This is "Version II" of Adventure.". I've seen the source code
somewhere (not on Panda), and it had a much more professional coding
style.
The FUN:CAVE.EXE file is a multi-player version on DEC20 Panda. The
MACRO code for it is in <utilities>, CAVE.MAC; written by David I Bell.
Looks like a very nice piece of DEC20 MACRO code.
I think the Crowther code is historically significant and worth
preserving somewhere. It formed the basis for much of later computer
gaming, conceptually if not in actual coding.
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Re: Running ADV (advent.tap) on T10 Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-01-22 17:38 +0000
Re: Running ADV (advent.tap) on T10 David Todd <HDTodd@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 08:22 -0500
Re: Running ADV (advent.tap) on T10 Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2026-01-23 14:31 +0000
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