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  time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-09 23:47 +0000
    Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-02-09 16:24 -0800
      Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> - 2026-02-10 15:19 +0000
        Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-02-10 09:37 -0800
    Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-02-10 12:36 -0500
      Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-12 20:33 +0000
        Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-02-12 17:54 -0500
          Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-13 08:46 +0000
            Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-02-13 12:49 -0500
              Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2026-02-17 05:38 +0000
    Re: time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone. faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-02-20 21:07 +1100

#28051 — time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone.

I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
Chicago time. 
 Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.

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#28052

William Unruh wrote:
> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
> time.

Mageia is systemd.

You can use timedatectl.

I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.

I'm not sure, but it is probably:

sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver

I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect 
gizmo.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#28053

On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 16:24:56 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

> William Unruh wrote:
>> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
>> time.
> 
> Mageia is systemd.
> 
> You can use timedatectl.
> 
> I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.
> 
> I'm not sure, but it is probably:
> 
> sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver
> 
> I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect 
> gizmo.

bin]$ man timedatectl
timedatectl list-timezones |grep Canada
Canada/Atlantic
Canada/Central
Canada/Eastern
Canada/Mountain
Canada/Newfoundland
Canada/Pacific
Canada/Saskatchewan
Canada/Yukon

Your system and desktop may have a much more extensive 
set of choices.

Cheers!

jim b.

-- 
UNIX is not user-unfriendly, it merely
     expects users to be computer friendly.

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#28055

Jim wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 16:24:56 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:
> 
>> William Unruh wrote:
>>> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
>>> time.
>>
>> Mageia is systemd.
>>
>> You can use timedatectl.
>>
>> I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.
>>
>> I'm not sure, but it is probably:
>>
>> sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver
>>
>> I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect
>> gizmo.
> 
> bin]$ man timedatectl
> timedatectl list-timezones |grep Canada
> Canada/Atlantic
> Canada/Central
> Canada/Eastern
> Canada/Mountain
> Canada/Newfoundland
> Canada/Pacific
> Canada/Saskatchewan
> Canada/Yukon
> 
> Your system and desktop may have a much more extensive
> set of choices.
> 
Oh; Vancouver, BC, .ca

I was thinking Vancouver, WA, .us

In any case, they are both on Pacific time, UTC-8.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#28054

On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 18:47:04 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
> time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
> matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
> stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
> says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
> me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
> Chicago time.
>  Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.

Plasma and Gnome both like to override system settings.

In KDE Plasma, run systemsettings. Under Personalization select Regional Settings. Within
that there are two settings. Region and Language allow you to select how the date and time
are displayed. Date & Time settings has two tabs. The first allows to to correct the actual time
and date while the Time Zone setting is where you should be slecting Vancouver.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#28056

On 2026-02-10, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 18:47:04 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
>> time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
>> matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
>> stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
>> says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
>> me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
>> Chicago time.
>>  Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.
>
> Plasma and Gnome both like to override system settings.
>
> In KDE Plasma, run systemsettings. Under Personalization select Regional Settings. Within
> that there are two settings. Region and Language allow you to select how the date and time
> are displayed. Date & Time settings has two tabs. The first allows to to correct the actual time
> and date while the Time Zone setting is where you should be slecting Vancouver.

That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget
->Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
stuck on Chicago time. 
I finally  gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the
widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.

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#28057

On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:33:28 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
<snip>
> That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget
> ->Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
> clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
> stuck on Chicago time.
> I finally  gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the
> widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
> I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
> time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.

While it's too late to confirm due to the reinstall, failing to save the changes properly
would most likely have been from using "su" instead of "su -", leading to root owned
files in ~/.config or elsewhere in /home.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#28058

On 2026-02-12, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:33:28 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
><snip>
>> That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget
>> ->Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
>> clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
>> stuck on Chicago time.
>> I finally  gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the
>> widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
>> I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
>> time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.
>
> While it's too late to confirm due to the reinstall, failing to save the changes properly
> would most likely have been from using "su" instead of "su -", leading to root owned
> files in ~/.config or elsewhere in /home.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
of a root owned file.

Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
root involvement at all

Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.

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#28059

On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 03:46:19 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
<snip>
> Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
> Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
> wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
> reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
> of a root owned file.
>
> Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
> from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
> root involvement at all

I thought you were talking about a Mageia reinstall.

> Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.

In that case, it was most likely a confguration change in that application between the different
Mageia releases. During upgrade from one release of Mageia to the next, the files in /home
are not modified. That's because each user in /home may have their files in encrypted file systems
which may not be mounted, and may not even be on the same computer (nfs etc.).

If the configuration does change, it's up to the application to handle the modification, so in
this case it would be up to the kde authors of that plugin to handle converting config file formats.

I don't recall any date/time widget problems on upgrade, but it's been long enough since I did
one, I may well have forgotten.

If the problem was still present, the next step in the debugging process after checking for and
fixing any root owned files would have been to create a brand new user, to see if that problem
existed for that user.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#28060

On 2026-02-13, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 03:46:19 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
><snip>
>> Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
>> Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
>> wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
>> reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
>> of a root owned file.
>>
>> Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
>> from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
>> root involvement at all
>
> I thought you were talking about a Mageia reinstall.

The overall was a Mageia 8-9 upgrade. But the solution was to erase the
DateTime widget from the panel bar and then to install it again to the
panel  bar, after it had ceased working after Mageia upgrade.

Sorry for the confusion

>
>> Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.
>
> In that case, it was most likely a confguration change in that application between the different
> Mageia releases. During upgrade from one release of Mageia to the next, the files in /home
> are not modified. That's because each user in /home may have their files in encrypted file systems
> which may not be mounted, and may not even be on the same computer (nfs etc.).
>
> If the configuration does change, it's up to the application to handle the modification, so in
> this case it would be up to the kde authors of that plugin to handle converting config file formats.
>
> I don't recall any date/time widget problems on upgrade, but it's been long enough since I did
> one, I may well have forgotten.
>
> If the problem was still present, the next step in the debugging process after checking for and
> fixing any root owned files would have been to create a brand new user, to see if that problem
> existed for that user.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#28062

On 10/2/26 10:47, William Unruh wrote:
> I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
> time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
> matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
> stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
> says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
> me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
> Chicago time.
>   Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
It's a real jumble
I'm glad you sorted your end
I am yet to get Dolphin icons to display 24 hour time

-- 
faeychild
Running kde on 6.6.120-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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