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  WHOIS is being replaced ...? Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-18 19:07 +0000
    Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2025-12-18 16:08 -0800
    Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 13:15 -0500
      Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:51 -0800
        Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:12 -0800
          Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:18 -0800
            Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? marc <marc@none.of.your.business> - 2026-01-06 14:42 +0100
              Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:01 -0800
                Re: WHOIS is being replaced ...? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:49 -0800

#27989 — WHOIS is being replaced ...?

The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But 
when you try it in Konsole you get ....

 > rdap mageia.org
bash: rdap: command not found


There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.


This notice when you run a Whois ..

**NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP 
service instead.

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#27990

On 12/18/2025 11:07 AM, Ar wrote:
> The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But 
> when you try it in Konsole you get ....
> 
>  > rdap mageia.org
> bash: rdap: command not found
> 
> 
> There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.
> 
> 
> This notice when you run a Whois ..
> 
> **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP 
> service instead.
> 
> 

Maybe openRDAP?   -- DISCLAIMER I have not looked to see if it's
included in M9.

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#27993

On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 14:07:13 -0500, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But
> when you try it in Konsole you get ....
>
>  > rdap mageia.org
> bash: rdap: command not found
>
>
> There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.
>
>
> This notice when you run a Whois ..
>
> **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP
> service instead.

Where are you getting that notice from?

On my M9 install ...
$ whois mageia.org
Domain Name: mageia.org
Registry Domain ID: REDACTED
Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.gandi.net
Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net
Updated Date: 2025-05-29T23:22:38Z
Creation Date: 2010-09-17T16:16:03Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2027-09-17T16:16:03Z
Registrar: Gandi SAS
Registrar IANA ID: 81
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: ns1.mageia.org
Name Server: ns0.mageia.org
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-12-19T18:13:45Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

Terms of Use: Access to Public Interest Registry WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator, a Registrar, or Identity Digital except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify  
existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.  The Registrar of Record identified in this output may have an RDDS service that can be queried for additional information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin, or Tech contact of the queried domain name.

Same with google.com. No mention of rdap. Even with icann ...

$ whois icann.org
This domain is protected by the Registry Lock service. If you are the registrant and wish to take action on this lock, please contact your registrar.

Domain Name: icann.org
Registry Domain ID: REDACTED
Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.cscglobal.com
Registrar URL: http://www.cscglobal.com/global/web/csc/digital-brand
Updated Date: 2025-01-31T20:19:44Z
Creation Date: 1998-09-14T04:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2028-12-07T17:04:26Z
Registrar: CSC Corporate Domains, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 299
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@cscglobal.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8887802723
Domain Status: serverDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited
Name Server: ns.icann.org
Name Server: a.icann-servers.net
Name Server: b.icann-servers.net
Name Server: c.icann-servers.net
DNSSEC: signedDelegation
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-12-19T18:14:40Z <<<

For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

Terms of Use: Access to Public Interest Registry WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator, a Registrar, or Identity Digital except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify  
existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.  The Registrar of Record identified in this output may have an RDDS service that can be queried for additional information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin, or Tech contact of the queried domain name.


Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#27994

David W. Hodgins wrote:
> Ar wrote:
> 
>> The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP.
>> 
>> **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our
>> RDAP service instead.
> 
> Where are you getting that notice from?
> 
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-update-launching-
rdap-sunsetting-whois-27-01-2025-en

> As of 28 January 2025, the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) 
> will be the definitive source for delivering generic top-level 
> domain name (gTLD) registration information in place of sunsetted 
> WHOIS services.

> Users are encouraged to utilize ICANN's RDAP-based Lookup service at
> https://lookup.icann.org/en or ICANN's open-source command-line
> client hosted on GitHub. A list of other client implementations may
> be found on this page.

https://github.com/icann/icann-rdap/wiki/RDAP-command

https://rdap.rcode3.com/client_implementations/cli_applications.html

However, the availability of rdap is not so wide; there is a rdap for 
Deb, but for such as Ub/s, there isn't a .ppa or a flatpak, but there is 
a Snap.

OpenRDAP is written in Go; there is a rdap for Arch in the AUR.

It seems to me that the conventional linux repo/s are 'backward' in this 
regard.  rdap has been around a very long time.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#27995

Mike Easter wrote:
> OpenRDAP is written in Go

I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included the 
OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by default.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#27996

Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> OpenRDAP is written in Go
> 
> I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
> the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
> default.
> 
Ha.

I didn't know about repology:

https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions

> Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
> sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other
> information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
> project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
> updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.

Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost all 
except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#28036

On 12/20/25 21:18, Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> OpenRDAP is written in Go
>>
>> I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
>> the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
>> default.
>>
> Ha.
> 
> I didn't know about repology:
> 
> https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions
> 
>> Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
>> sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other
>> information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
>> project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
>> updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.
> 
> Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost all 
> except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.
> 

Maybe try: https://client.rdap.org/

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#28037

marc wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> OpenRDAP is written in Go
>>>
>>> I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
>>> the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
>>> default.
>>>
>> Ha.
>>
>> I didn't know about repology:
>>
>> https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions
>>
>>> Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
>>> sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other
>>> information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
>>> project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
>>> updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.
>>
>> Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost 
>> all except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.
>>
> 
> Maybe try: https://client.rdap.org/
> 
I left all of the (stale) preceding untrimmed for 'direct' background 
context.

My comments ranging from rdap to repology was all about the availability 
of *client packages* for openrdap in various distro/s.

Your link is about the availability of a web-based rdap function.

Lotsa diff between web-based rdap and a particular client package in a 
distro/s repo/s.

There is also an openrdap site here:
https://www.openrdap.org/

-- 
Mike Easter

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#28038

Mike Easter wrote:
> 
> Your link is about the availability of a web-based rdap function.
> 
> There is also an openrdap site here:
> https://www.openrdap.org/
> 
Now that I'm 'getting into' this, there is an interesting 'back story' 
(I LUV b/s) in its wp article about the problems w/ the development and 
the implementation, which has been going on for years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_Data_Access_Protocol

Things are still somewhat incomplete because of what might be considered 
the 'complexity' (not TOO bad) as well as the 'compliance' (limited to 
recency).

>  For name registries, ICANN requires RDAP compliance since 2013.



-- 
Mike Easter

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