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  Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-25 13:15 +0000
    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-26 11:28 +0200
      Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-26 21:06 +0000
        Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-27 06:42 +0200
        Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-28 10:15 +0000
          Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-28 14:41 +0000
            Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-28 16:23 +0000
              Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-28 17:05 +0000
                Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-08-28 14:32 -0500
                  Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-28 20:52 +0000
                    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-29 07:00 +0200
                      Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 12:17 +0000
                        Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-29 22:24 +0200
                          Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 23:32 +0000
                            Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-30 07:12 +0200
                              Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-30 05:41 +0000
                                Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-31 06:55 +0200
                                Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-31 10:07 +0000
                                  Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-09-01 09:22 +0200
                Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-29 09:14 +0000
                  Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 12:22 +0000
                    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx HASM <hasm@example.invalid> - 2018-08-29 05:49 -0700
                    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-29 16:21 +0000
                      Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-29 16:57 +0000
                        Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-08-29 22:17 +0200
                          Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 23:31 +0000
                            Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-31 10:04 +0000
                          Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-31 10:01 +0000
                    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-29 16:54 +0000
                      Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 17:18 +0000
            Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-28 18:23 -0400
    Re: Exiting from X leaves screen blank if x started with startx Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-08-27 01:43 -0500

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#19504

On 2018-08-29, Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:05:41 +0000, William Unruh wrote:
>
>>  sciences.
>
> It's at the end of that list here, right after 'Sciences'!

Hm. I must have been looking at an Mga5 machine. I see it here on this
Mga6 machine, and it does have switch user. 
>
Of course that is useless if my session in in its lockscreen/screensaver  and she
wants to use the machine while I am at work.


>
> Good hunting...
>  
> Regards,

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#19505

William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> writes:

> Of course that is useless if my session in in its
> lockscreen/screensaver and she
> wants to use the machine while I am at work.

You guys are too advanced for me.
I use xdm/fvwm/xscreensaver.
When locked, xscreensaver has a "New login" button.
Never tried it though, but it is there.

-- HASM

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#19507

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:22:53 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> Of course that is useless if my session in in its lockscreen/screensaver
>  and she wants to use the machine while I am at work.

If she's logged in before you go to work, then before you go just use Ctl
+Esc+F2 to swap into her session greeter?

Regards,
-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#19510

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:21:28 +0000, I wrote:

> If she's logged in before you go to work, then before you go just use
> Ctl +Esc+F2 to swap into her session greeter?

Actulally she could do that from your screenlocker.

Regards,
-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#19512

On 8/29/18 6:57 PM, Maurice wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:21:28 +0000, I wrote:
> 
>> If she's logged in before you go to work, then before you go just use
>> Ctl +Esc+F2 to swap into her session greeter?
> 
> Actulally she could do that from your screenlocker.

IMHO configuring the display manager to start in multi seat mode it's
faster and more stable than starting a new session from the
screenlocker. In the OP case he knows how many sessions he needs and
could even make it auto login for each user too, which should make
things really smooth for him and his wife.

-- 

 //Aho

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#19514

On 2018-08-29, J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
> On 8/29/18 6:57 PM, Maurice wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:21:28 +0000, I wrote:
>> 
>>> If she's logged in before you go to work, then before you go just use
>>> Ctl +Esc+F2 to swap into her session greeter?
>> 
>> Actulally she could do that from your screenlocker.
>
> IMHO configuring the display manager to start in multi seat mode it's
> faster and more stable than starting a new session from the
> screenlocker. In the OP case he knows how many sessions he needs and
> could even make it auto login for each user too, which should make
> things really smooth for him and his wife.

I do not like auto login-- it is insecure since we have "strangers" come
in and stay with us. I do not like to leave an open session for them.


>

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#19521

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:31:40 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> I do not like auto login-- it is insecure since we have "strangers" come
> in and stay with us. I do not like to leave an open session for them.

Good point, but perhaps can ensure access only via password? (More 
reading to do...)

Regards,
-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#19520

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:17:07 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

> In the OP case he knows how many sessions he needs and could even make
> it auto login for each user too, which should make things really smooth
> for him and his wife.

Mmm. That sounds useful. Will give it a try when I've figured out how to 
arrange it.

Regards,
-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#19509

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:22:53 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> that is useless if my session in in its lockscreen/screensaver  and she
> wants to use the machine while I am at work

Actually, from your screenlocker she could e.g. Ctl+ Alt+F2 to her own.

-- 
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

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#19511

On 2018-08-29, Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:22:53 +0000, William Unruh wrote:
>
>> that is useless if my session in in its lockscreen/screensaver  and she
>> wants to use the machine while I am at work
>
> Actually, from your screenlocker she could e.g. Ctl+ Alt+F2 to her own.
>

It she is already logged in, of course. However, if not, then the only
way I know is for her to do alt-ctrl-F2 , log into the console and do 
startx -- :2

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#19500

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:41:35 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2018-08-28, Maurice <maurice@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 21:06:31 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

>>>  I want her to be able to log on with a desktop, even if I am already
>>> logged on.

>> With similar setup, if the SO wants to login I just fire up 'Switch User'
>> and use the greeter to do the login.
>> From then on just swap as required from one to other via Ctl+Alt+F1 or F2.

> And where is "Switch User"

Run systemsettings5. Under Workspace, select Startup and Shutdown. Under
Desktop Session ensure "Offer shutdown options" is selected. Logout and
back in for the change to take effect.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

-- 
Change dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org to davidwhodgins@teksavvy.com for
email replies.

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#19490

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:15:13 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
> I am running mageia 6 with sddm and plasma as the desktop manager,
> My wife and I both use the computer, and since I am usually first on,
> she starts by going to a console screen (alt-ctl-F3 say) logging in and
> running startx -- :1
> That brings up X, a bit hesitantly (Ie, it seems to take longer than it
> should) but it works. When she logs out of X either with alt-ctrl-Bksp
> twice or via the logout option from the desktop, there is a completely
> black screen left over (well it seems to have dark grey stripes which
> can change barely visible). Ie, it does not return to the console as it
> should. If I then do alt-ctrl-F2, alt-ctrl-F3 the console comes up
> again. Ie it seems that the logout did not quite finish from X.
>
> (Since I logged on from the sddm greeter, if I do alt-ctrl-Bksp twice,
> the system brings up the greeter again.)
>
> Any hints as to what might be wrong?

I have no clue as to the problem. I switched to Xfce DE back on mga5 and
created a desktop shortcut to use  dm-tool for switching users.

I click my taxes shortcut and it runs     dm-tool switch-to-user taxes.
I click my browser shortcut and it runs   dm-tool switch-to-user browser
You might try it for fun just to see if it works under SDDM.


If I were you I would try using the kde/plasma switch user menu selection.
If that fails, you might try putting
  switch users sddm
in the first box at https://encrypted.google.com/advanced_search

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