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| Started by | Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-30 11:18 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-18 09:00 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 414 — 56 participants |
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Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-30 11:18 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-07-30 17:06 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-07-30 10:32 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-30 18:28 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-07-30 22:56 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 09:47 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-04 15:33 -0300
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-30 14:55 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-30 14:14 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:29 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-31 12:15 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-08-01 02:47 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-01 12:36 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:15 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-04 12:48 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-04 12:52 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-08-04 21:29 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2015-07-31 07:03 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-01 01:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-01 19:42 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 00:12 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 00:14 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-01 20:12 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-01 22:41 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:29 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:09 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-04 16:31 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-04 16:15 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-05 09:55 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-05 11:21 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-05 13:32 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 06:03 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-05 14:13 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-06 11:14 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 16:35 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-06 17:40 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-07 11:02 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-07 07:35 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-07 07:37 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-07 17:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-07 11:48 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 17:01 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-07 22:23 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:55 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 21:00 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 10:23 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-10 17:33 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 13:20 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-10 20:42 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 18:02 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 21:19 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-11 12:52 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 19:37 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-11 00:59 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-10 12:50 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-10 22:54 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-08 04:40 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 16:35 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-06 10:47 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-06 13:11 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-06 12:27 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-07 17:35 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-07 13:13 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-07 19:06 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-09 17:44 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 19:48 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-08-05 20:48 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-05 14:01 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-06 10:11 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-06 13:36 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-06 10:56 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-06 11:02 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-05 14:16 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-06 10:03 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-06 09:22 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-08-06 08:22 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 19:39 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-05 16:17 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:57 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-05 11:58 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-30 23:18 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-30 23:37 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-08-06 17:17 +0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-07-30 17:55 -0300
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-07-30 21:45 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-07-30 18:17 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:54 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:59 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 21:23 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-30 15:06 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-30 18:47 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-30 16:55 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-30 22:50 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-07-30 23:36 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-01 18:46 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-01 18:50 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-02 01:15 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-02 11:10 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-02 19:54 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-03 00:45 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-02 17:54 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-03 05:47 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-02 21:03 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-02 22:18 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-03 10:20 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:46 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-03 07:24 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-03 14:58 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-03 15:22 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-03 21:07 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-03 20:59 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 11:02 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-04 16:04 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-04 16:00 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-04 15:58 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-03 20:27 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-04 16:08 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-03 16:57 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-03 15:07 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-04 18:12 +0000
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-04 19:49 +0000
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 13:48 -0700
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 21:33 +0000
Re: IBM 1130 and S/3 Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-05 01:49 +0000
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-08-04 21:40 -0700
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-04 16:12 -0500
Re: Minis and Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 13:31 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-04 23:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-04 17:23 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-05 11:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-07 16:06 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-07 21:35 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-07 22:23 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:53 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-11-04 12:31 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 14:02 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-07 18:49 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-08 13:48 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 06:23 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-08 17:23 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 08:41 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-08 19:42 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-08 12:31 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-08 15:43 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-09 12:32 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-09 15:59 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-09 23:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-08-10 22:17 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-08-11 23:53 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-12 13:42 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.invalid> - 2015-08-12 19:25 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-13 16:52 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-08-09 10:15 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-11 15:20 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-11 23:59 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-10 00:32 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-09 03:07 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-08 10:38 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-08-09 10:35 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-09 10:14 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-11-04 12:44 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-04 12:00 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 12:27 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:06 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 14:09 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-05 13:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 07:46 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-05 16:54 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-11-20 16:00 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-20 16:01 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-21 08:35 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-21 11:03 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-21 22:24 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-11-21 23:21 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes roger.ivie@gmail.com - 2015-11-04 19:51 -0800
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 11:27 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-11-05 13:52 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-05 15:57 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:57 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-08 10:51 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-09 10:05 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 05:41 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 15:00 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-08 18:02 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-08 23:54 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-09 00:34 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-19 11:04 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 12:00 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 13:04 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 09:59 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes mausg@mail.com - 2015-08-19 14:17 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-19 15:03 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 21:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-20 06:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-08-20 07:32 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-19 07:21 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 14:52 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 11:46 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-19 10:21 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-19 17:28 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 07:25 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-19 20:08 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-19 16:58 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 07:14 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 15:31 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 13:55 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:17 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:18 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-22 00:40 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:08 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-11-20 13:09 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-20 23:27 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-21 07:20 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 12:38 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 18:59 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 14:49 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 21:22 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 16:56 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-21 18:06 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 21:10 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:22 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:15 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 17:20 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-21 23:35 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-22 21:00 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-21 16:21 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:12 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 17:01 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:04 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-22 16:28 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:42 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 21:10 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-19 16:06 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-19 20:57 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:36 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:58 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-09 10:58 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-08 16:30 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-09 00:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-09 09:33 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:48 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 18:56 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-08 19:22 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 22:46 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-08 21:19 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-09 14:14 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 18:52 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 06:57 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-09 12:32 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-09 05:37 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-09 13:10 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2015-08-10 16:16 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-10 17:00 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-09 15:30 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-10 15:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-12 13:24 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-08 03:55 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-08 15:42 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-08 18:40 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-09 16:05 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 08:10 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-11 23:40 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-11 18:12 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-11 22:22 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-13 08:19 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-12 19:42 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-10 00:37 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-10 16:01 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-11 05:32 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-08-11 09:46 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-10 16:39 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 12:44 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-10 14:41 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 16:52 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-11 02:00 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-11 06:01 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-11 21:00 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-11 15:23 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-12 00:07 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-11 23:55 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-11 22:04 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-12 11:45 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-08-14 00:07 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-14 03:18 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-14 13:22 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-08-15 03:44 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-12 06:12 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-10 00:30 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-10 15:49 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-10 11:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 11:52 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-10 12:11 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:14 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:35 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-10 08:49 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 09:05 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-10 18:01 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-10 12:12 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 19:53 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 07:44 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-18 12:47 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-10 10:18 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-10 12:43 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-10 12:59 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 13:54 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-11 10:32 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 16:43 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-11 09:48 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-11 20:20 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-12 02:11 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-11 21:00 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-12 13:42 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-12 14:15 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-13 14:25 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-13 00:59 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Daiyu Hurst <daiyu.hurst@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:10 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-11 05:32 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-08-14 06:20 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-10 13:34 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-11 13:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 03:58 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Blano" <blano6654@nospam.com> - 2015-08-11 05:34 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-08-14 06:21 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-10 13:48 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 14:04 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-11 12:51 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-12 13:30 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-12 19:34 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-13 01:24 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 05:52 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-13 13:10 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-13 22:13 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 05:51 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-13 22:11 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-14 11:56 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 13:25 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-13 14:26 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-10 23:24 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-14 07:29 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-14 16:13 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-14 15:54 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-15 02:47 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-19 16:07 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 07:01 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 14:45 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 15:01 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 17:24 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 12:09 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 21:11 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 22:22 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 23:06 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Michael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> - 2015-08-18 02:34 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-18 13:25 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-19 12:12 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-19 14:28 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-17 21:11 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-17 20:52 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-18 14:12 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-18 14:45 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-18 18:34 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 14:50 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 12:08 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-18 14:19 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-18 14:41 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-19 15:55 -0400
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-19 20:51 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 14:44 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-20 08:11 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-20 16:11 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:46 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-20 15:22 -0600
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 02:12 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-20 17:34 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 00:58 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-20 18:23 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 04:47 +0200
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-21 15:29 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-20 15:36 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:43 -0500
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 07:07 +1000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 23:49 +0100
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-18 14:15 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 21:33 +0000
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:50 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-04 10:35 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 11:45 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-17 13:45 -0700
Re: Miniskirts and mainframes Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-18 09:00 +0100
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-21 11:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87poz318fy.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #154705 |
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes: > Thee was a world of difference in software usability, both systems and > applications. I'd venture to say, partly based on your comments, that the > corporate users of 43xx machines used them to run dedicated applications, > developed centrally and distributed. In no way would I turn a branch > office staff loose on a 43xx. A VAX could be used that way, but was simple > enough to be managed, for the most part, by a fraction of a staff member's > time, and easy enough to use that people,could develop local applications > on it, to the dame extent that they might on a PC. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lyn n/2015h.html#71 Miniskirts and mainframes IBM SHARE user group made a point that VAX was simpler to manage than VM370/CMS. If IBM had simplified VM370 further the claim rather than 4300s and VAXes selling about the same number of machines (except for large corporate 4300 orders of hundreds at a time), 4300s would have made significant further inroads into VAX sales. There was an attempt to make VM370 part of all 138/148s (4300 precursor) shipped from the factory ... but this was in the aftermath of FS ... some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys ... when POK was convincing corporate to kill VM370 and transfer all the people to POK for MVS/XA (or otherwise MVS/XA wouldn't ship on time). POK managed to get VM370 development group in Burlington Mall closed and people transferred to POK ... but many escaped and stayed in Boston area (joke that head of POK was one of the largest contributors to VMS). Endicott did finally manage to save the VM370 product mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch. In Aug1976, Tymshare had started making its vm370/cms online computer conferencing facility available for free to the SHARE user group ... as VMSHARE ... archives http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare there are vmshare comments in the late 70s & early 80s about vm370/cms code quality as Endicott is rebuilding a development group. The internal network was larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime in the mid-80s ... some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet technology was done by former co-worker http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cool-to-be-clever-edson-hendricks/id483020515?mt=8 It's Cool to Be Clever: The Story of Edson C. Hendricks, the Genius Who Invented the Design for the Internet http://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks at the science center, some past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech At the time of the great arpanet/internet cutover to internetworking protocol on 1Jan1983, it had approx. 100 IMPs and 255 connected hosts ... while the internal network was rapidly approaching 1000 nodes. A big part of this was explosion in vm/4341s going in all over the world ... including at branch offices. nearly identical internal network technology was also being used for BITNET ... the corporate sponsored univ. network ... which for a time was also larger than arpanet/internet. Large univ. were installing multiple vm/4341s around campus and departments ... usually requiring some fraction of student employee ... typically required more than VMS ... but still much less than full time employee. BITNET ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET BITNET posts http://www.garliic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet BITNET was referred to EARN in europe, old email by person responsible for setting up EARN: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320 above was sent to me somewhat as result of being blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s & early 80s. The POK favorite son operating systems (MVS) wanted to play in the explosion in 4300 sales, but had difficulty. The real problem was typical MVS system required 10-20 fulltime support people (including dedicated operators) ... which didn't scale for enterprise looking at installing 1000 machines out in deparmental areas. However, they focused on the only entry & mid-range disks were all FBA (3310&3370). For whatever reason MVS failed to support FBA, only CKD (down to this day, even though real CKD disks haven't been made for decades). The only CKD were the high-end 3380s ... datacenter environmentals didn't play well out in departmental areas. This eventually resulted in creating 3375 CKD disk product (CKD architecture simulated on 3370 FBA disks) ... but had little impact in MVS being able to penetrate the mid-range, departmental market. Some CKD & FBA posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd other trivia ... first/original webserver in the US was the SLAC vm370/cms system: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/firstpages.shtml The first global Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game http://www.lextrait.com/Vincent/mad.html listserv http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-history.asp -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 22:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <t147ic-5a4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #154705 |
In article <985103287.469804945.152929.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote: >> Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes: >> >> as i've perodically pontificated VAX & 4331/4341 sold into the same >> mid-range market ... and in similar numbers ... at least for small >> number orders ... big different for 4331/4341 were the large corporate >> orders of hundreds of machines. as before ... 4361/4381 was followon to >> 4331/4341 and expected to see similar explosion in sales ... but as the >> VAX sales numbers show ... by mid-80s, mid-range market was starting to >> move to workstations & large PCs. >> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#0 Computers in Science Fiction > >Thee was a world of difference in software usability, both systems and >applications. I'd venture to say, partly based on your comments, that the >corporate users of 43xx machines used them to run dedicated applications, >developed centrally and distributed. In no way would I turn a branch >office staff loose on a 43xx. A VAX could be used that way, but was simple >enough to be managed, for the most part, by a fraction of a staff member's >time, and easy enough to use that people,could develop local applications >on it, to the dame extent that they might on a PC. Case in point, with what was probably the largest sale on 4341s; the one to the US/NATO/SEATO military crypto network. The total orders went past 6000 units for this network alone, but it was done peacemeal in > 100 different contracts and bids. The channel attached cyrpto hardware was from a third party, though, and IBM never saw these machines once they were installed. I was a courier with the CTS key tapes between installations throughout Norway in 1984. Sealed envelope with triggered athmosphere inside, with some destruction device embedded in a small suitcase, with a discreet hand loop that would trigger destruction if pulled. A lost key tape would not compromise anything, but had some emergency procedures to be performed. Mostly they generated tapes to be put in standard mail, lots and lots of them. Crates full. We know this system was not compromised by the Russians, there were at least two dozen military installations in this network they never knew about; 4 of them in Norway alone. 6000 is about the same magnitude as the total number of pdp10s ever made. How many were there, actually? And how did the others cope? -- mrr
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| From | Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2015-11-21 23:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dbccjbFd3obU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154695 |
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:01:14 -0800, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > as i've perodically pontificated VAX & 4331/4341 sold into the same > mid-range market ... and in similar numbers ... at least for small > number orders ... big different for 4331/4341 were the large corporate > orders of hundreds of machines. as before ... 4361/4381 was followon to > 4331/4341 and expected to see similar explosion in sales ... but as the > VAX sales numbers show ... by mid-80s, mid-range market was starting to > move to workstations & large PCs. As a small to medium academic installtion...we had IBM tendering against DEC for a replacement system in 1986. IBM lost, mainly due to incompetent sales staff. The IBM offering was a 4381 (but with a non IBM operating system), and the DEC one was an 8800 (clustered with a couple of 8200s to help pass a benchmark). The latter was VMS of course. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | roger.ivie@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-04 19:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b0fbf005-420f-4dc7-a8b1-112b95e97c08@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #153932 |
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 9:44:03 AM UTC-8, Alan Bowler wrote: > > The big difference was that the DPS-8 regularly > supported 60-80 simultaneous timesharing users and the VAX topped > out at 20-25. Utah State University used to put 64 users on their VAX-11/780 back in the day. 'Course, it took more than an hour to log in when it got that busy, but still...
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| From | JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 11:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <p84n3b92bnqpqjs74kvljkf1p5h4k9hbvq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #153987 |
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 19:51:01 -0800 (PST), roger.ivie@gmail.com wrote: >On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 9:44:03 AM UTC-8, Alan Bowler wrote: >> >> The big difference was that the DPS-8 regularly >> supported 60-80 simultaneous timesharing users and the VAX topped >> out at 20-25. > >Utah State University used to put 64 users on their VAX-11/780 back in >the day. 'Course, it took more than an hour to log in when it got that >busy, but still... At the branch campus of the University I went to, they had a VAX 11/730. Six terminals on the vampus I was on, 4 at antoher campus, and one modem port used by another campus. -- JimP.
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| From | Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 13:52 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <87611gmdga.fsf@redbull.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> |
| In reply to | #154014 |
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes: > At the branch campus of the University I went to, they had a VAX > 11/730. Six terminals on the vampus I was on, 4 at antoher campus, and > one modem port used by another campus. OMG. I had an 11/730 to myself and that was nearly too many users.
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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 15:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1511051554171.16239@darkstar.example.org> |
| In reply to | #154033 |
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Lawrence Statton wrote:
> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
>> At the branch campus of the University I went to, they had a VAX
>> 11/730. Six terminals on the vampus I was on, 4 at antoher campus, and
>> one modem port used by another campus.
>
> OMG.
>
> I had an 11/730 to myself and that was nearly too many users.
>
Some of the stuff seemed so fast, until something new came along.
I ran Microware OS-9 ("Unix-like", it was multitasking and multiuser)
on a Radio Shack Color Computer starting in 1984. I never strained the
system, except when I was printing. I had the printer off the serial
port, but the serial conversion was done in software. ANd that hogged
the resources. So I could print from one console, and then go back to
editing, except I could see the cursor move around the screen, it slowed
things down that much. Of course the computer only ran at 1MHz, until
1987 when a later model was released, a full 2MHz clock.
I used to hit slow times at my ISP years ago, but I was never sure if the
problem was too many users slowing down the system or a phone line that
slowed things down.
Michael
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| From | JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-05 17:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <i3rn3b9mt95o29nkf3pp5g3l5lmgu64q03@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154033 |
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015 13:52:05 -0600, Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote: >JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes: >> At the branch campus of the University I went to, they had a VAX >> 11/730. Six terminals on the vampus I was on, 4 at antoher campus, and >> one modem port used by another campus. > >OMG. > >I had an 11/730 to myself and that was nearly too many users. Not too bad... until one of the faculty got VAX ADA and put it on that machine. They could start a compile, go eat lunch, come back, and the first errors were just tarting to show up on the DEC VT102s. -- JimP.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 10:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20150808105150.c88a5ce0e8c44f8a93ba4043@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #149500 |
On 8 Aug 2015 06:23:41 GMT Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:48:33 +1000, Blano wrote: > > > "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message > > news:61682578-7d6e-4af2-ad00-92685d8bce2d@googlegroups.com... > >> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:06:52 PM UTC-6, Charles Richmond wrote: > >> > >>> Charlie, that characterization of a "mainframe" seems bound to IBM and > >>> Univac knock-off architectures. The PDP-10 was a mainframe that did > >>> *not* > >>> fit your characterization. > >> > >> The PDP-10 was definitely a mainframe - it was large, > > > > That isn't what defines a mainframe. > > > >> and it served a number of users. > > > > So did most of the minis of that era. > > > >> However, it did come from a company the background of which was minis. > > > > And didn't have the very intelligent peripheral processors that > > mainframes of that era had. So it isn't as black and white as you claim. > > I'm not sure that intelligent peripheral processing defines a mainframe > any more accurately. > > Size (and power consumption) seem good metrics. The PDP-10 required 3 > phase power, for a start. One definition is - requires air conditioning, raised floor, three phase and forklift access. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 10:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <f7ej9c-1o4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #149508 |
In article <20150808105150.c88a5ce0e8c44f8a93ba4043@eircom.net>, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >On 8 Aug 2015 06:23:41 GMT >Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote: > >> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:48:33 +1000, Blano wrote: >> >> > "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message >> > news:61682578-7d6e-4af2-ad00-92685d8bce2d@googlegroups.com... >> >> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:06:52 PM UTC-6, Charles Richmond wrote: >> >> >> >>> Charlie, that characterization of a "mainframe" seems bound to IBM and >> >>> Univac knock-off architectures. The PDP-10 was a mainframe that did >> >>> *not* >> >>> fit your characterization. >> >> >> >> The PDP-10 was definitely a mainframe - it was large, >> > >> > That isn't what defines a mainframe. >> > >> >> and it served a number of users. >> > >> > So did most of the minis of that era. >> > >> >> However, it did come from a company the background of which was minis. >> > >> > And didn't have the very intelligent peripheral processors that >> > mainframes of that era had. So it isn't as black and white as you claim. >> >> I'm not sure that intelligent peripheral processing defines a mainframe >> any more accurately. >> >> Size (and power consumption) seem good metrics. The PDP-10 required 3 >> phase power, for a start. > > One definition is - requires air conditioning, raised floor, three >phase and forklift access. My definition is : You can throw a laptop 5+ meters You can carry a pc 5+ meters You can wheel a mini 5+ meters With a mainframe you can enter and close the door after yourself. -- mrr
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| From | "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 05:41 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <d2pompFofd3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #149552 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:f7ej9c-1o4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <20150808105150.c88a5ce0e8c44f8a93ba4043@eircom.net>, > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>On 8 Aug 2015 06:23:41 GMT >>Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:48:33 +1000, Blano wrote: >>> >>> > "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message >>> > news:61682578-7d6e-4af2-ad00-92685d8bce2d@googlegroups.com... >>> >> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:06:52 PM UTC-6, Charles Richmond >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Charlie, that characterization of a "mainframe" seems bound to IBM >>> >>> and >>> >>> Univac knock-off architectures. The PDP-10 was a mainframe that did >>> >>> *not* >>> >>> fit your characterization. >>> >> >>> >> The PDP-10 was definitely a mainframe - it was large, >>> > >>> > That isn't what defines a mainframe. >>> > >>> >> and it served a number of users. >>> > >>> > So did most of the minis of that era. >>> > >>> >> However, it did come from a company the background of which was >>> >> minis. >>> > >>> > And didn't have the very intelligent peripheral processors that >>> > mainframes of that era had. So it isn't as black and white as you >>> > claim. >>> >>> I'm not sure that intelligent peripheral processing defines a mainframe >>> any more accurately. >>> >>> Size (and power consumption) seem good metrics. The PDP-10 required 3 >>> phase power, for a start. >> >> One definition is - requires air conditioning, raised floor, three >>phase and forklift access. > > My definition is : > > You can throw a laptop 5+ meters > You can carry a pc 5+ meters > You can wheel a mini 5+ meters > With a mainframe you can enter and close the door after yourself. You can enter a PDP-9 and close the door after you and it is no mainframe.
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 15:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <72b187c8-5fd5-4194-ac75-e2ca695d80d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #149500 |
On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:23:42 AM UTC-4, Bob Eager wrote: > I'm not sure that intelligent peripheral processing defines a mainframe > any more accurately. > Size (and power consumption) seem good metrics. The PDP-10 required 3 > phase power, for a start. There isn't any single 'definition' of mainframe vs. mini. There were, as described above, small mainframes and large minis, which confused the issue. Generally, minis were less powerful, simpler, and cheaper than mainframes of its era. Generally, they had slower periperhals and simpler operating systems. But for some clues, look at the physical, horsepower, and architectural differences between the IBM S/3 and IBM S/360. Look what was done to hold the cost of the S/3 down. (Or the 1130 and S/360).
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| From | Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 22:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d2nf0nFj934U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #149522 |
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:00:51 -0700, hancock4 wrote: > Generally, minis were less powerful, simpler, and cheaper than > mainframes of its era. Generally, they had slower periperhals and > simpler operating systems. I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic operating systems!
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| From | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 18:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <d2ng42F733sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #149523 |
"Bob Eager" wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:00:51 -0700, hancock4 wrote: > >> Generally, minis were less powerful, simpler, and cheaper than >> mainframes of its era. Generally, they had slower periperhals and >> simpler operating systems. > > I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic > operating systems! That isn't obvious to me, but they were certainly smaller!!!!!
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| From | Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 23:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d2nj6cFj934U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #149524 |
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 18:02:24 -0500, Osmium wrote: > "Bob Eager" wrote: > >> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:00:51 -0700, hancock4 wrote: >> >>> Generally, minis were less powerful, simpler, and cheaper than >>> mainframes of its era. Generally, they had slower periperhals and >>> simpler operating systems. >> >> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >> operating systems! > > That isn't obvious to me, but they were certainly smaller!!!!! When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they?
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| From | John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 00:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq6762$21n3$1@miucha.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #149526 |
>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >> operating systems! I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary. >When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they? z/OS still uses it. Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll find the manuals.
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| From | "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 11:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.x3l0x0ytmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup> |
| In reply to | #149528 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:34:10 +0100, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >>> operating systems! > > I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary. > >> When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they? > > z/OS still uses it. Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll > find the manuals. > JCL was dreadful (1980s era anyhow) I guess I just got used to it; then was startled at how simple ICL's equivalent was (George?). -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| From | Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 12:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d3j9ffF6m5qU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #149977 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:04:38 +0100, Kerr Mudd-John wrote: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:34:10 +0100, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: > >>>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >>>> operating systems! >> >> I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary. >> >>> When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they? >> >> z/OS still uses it. Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll find the >> manuals. >> > JCL was dreadful (1980s era anyhow) I guess I just got used to it; then > was startled at how simple ICL's equivalent was (George?). The language used on VME wasn't that good. How many IBMers used REXX? (I still do, as a scripting language)
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 13:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <180232560461682164.645439peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #149978 |
Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:04:38 +0100, Kerr Mudd-John wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:34:10 +0100, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >> >>>>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >>>>> operating systems! >>> >>> I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary. >>> >>>> When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they? >>> >>> z/OS still uses it. Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll find the >>> manuals. >>> >> JCL was dreadful (1980s era anyhow) I guess I just got used to it; then >> was startled at how simple ICL's equivalent was (George?). > > The language used on VME wasn't that good. > > How many IBMers used REXX? (I still do, as a scripting language) Same here. -- Pete
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| From | Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 09:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mr221a$pad$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #149983 |
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes: > Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:04:38 +0100, Kerr Mudd-John wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 01:34:10 +0100, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> I would contend that perhaps mainframes had (and have) more archaic >>>>>> operating systems! >>>> >>>> I dunno, the software for the PDP-8 was pretty rudimentary. >>>> >>>>> When did IBM stop using JCL? Or have they? >>>> >>>> z/OS still uses it. Google for ibm z/os jcl and you'll find the >>>> manuals. >>>> >>> JCL was dreadful (1980s era anyhow) I guess I just got used to it; then >>> was startled at how simple ICL's equivalent was (George?). >> >> The language used on VME wasn't that good. >> >> How many IBMers used REXX? (I still do, as a scripting language) > > Same here. Good for me too. -- Dan Espen
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