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Quantum Computers

Started byNeo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com>
First post2015-06-26 07:09 -0700
Last post2015-07-22 07:47 +0100
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  Quantum Computers Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:09 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:28 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 14:58 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0400
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 08:43 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2015-06-26 12:47 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 10:19 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:53 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:15 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:17 +1000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 22:01 +1000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 13:54 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:03 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 15:40 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-06-27 10:05 -0500
                          Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 18:47 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-04 13:03 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:40 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:19 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-27 00:21 +0200
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:34 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:14 +1000
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 22:38 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:47 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:56 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:46 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-05 16:37 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 10:35 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-05 21:12 +0200
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:50 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:56 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:16 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:16 +1000
              Re: Quantum Computers Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-06-26 22:20 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 13:56 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:08 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:15 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:26 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:25 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:31 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:42 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-06-27 18:18 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-27 14:45 -0500
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 14:41 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 22:43 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:09 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-26 13:48 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:27 -0400
      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:49 +0100
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 14:02 -0400
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:13 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-26 14:36 -0500
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:42 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:49 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 14:59 -0700
                    Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:14 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 18:28 -0400
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 15:35 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 20:14 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-27 06:46 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 07:05 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:27 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 13:26 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:13 +0100
        Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:55 +1000
        Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-06-30 01:35 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-30 10:00 +0100
          Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-30 09:45 -0500
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 07:14 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 15:29 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-28 16:02 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-28 21:55 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 17:10 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:07 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 11:19 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:30 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:00 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 05:04 -0700
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:48 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 07:04 -0700
                          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 16:59 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 10:56 -0400
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:04 -0700
                          Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:13 -0400
                            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:16 -0700
                              Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:23 -0400
                                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:42 -0700
                                  Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:59 -0400
                                    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:20 -0700
                                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:28 +0100
                                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 12:48 -0400
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:57 -0700
                                          Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 13:10 -0400
                                    Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-29 13:39 -0500
                                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 15:07 -0400
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 20:30 +0100
                                      Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-30 16:12 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 12:58 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 12:45 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:50 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 14:45 +0000
                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:01 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-06-30 04:58 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 09:28 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 14:36 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 10:27 -0400
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:00 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 13:28 -0400
                          Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 12:05 +0100
                            Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 08:45 -0400
                              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:52 +0000
                                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 11:16 -0400
                                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:23 +1000
                              Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 17:31 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 05:02 +1000
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 13:28 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 20:39 +0000
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 09:31 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-30 19:18 +0200
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 13:56 -0400
        Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:21 -0500
          Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-07-01 14:49 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Ibmekon - 2015-07-01 20:25 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-02 03:32 -0300
                  Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 18:04 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-03 12:24 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-03 15:27 +0000
                        Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-04 11:41 +0000
                          Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-05 07:21 -0700
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 04:57 +1000
                  Re: Quantum Computers davidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith) - 2015-07-04 20:37 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 13:10 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-05 13:49 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:58 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 08:14 -0400
                          Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:44 -0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:39 -0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-09 07:41 +0100
                          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 10:46 +0000
                            Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:22 -0600
                    Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-05 15:15 +0100
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 06:46 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 10:26 -0400
      Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-08 18:13 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:34 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 17:15 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-07-09 17:25 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:23 -0600
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 09:33 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "Hank" <hfd543@nospam.com> - 2015-07-13 05:39 +1000
          Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-12 15:20 -0500
            Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-12 22:34 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 10:35 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 20:05 +0200
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:15 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:19 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 12:35 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 23:26 +0200
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 20:27 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:29 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 21:36 -0400
                    Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-10 16:26 -0300
                  Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-09 22:37 -0400
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-10 13:04 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 14:37 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-10 15:32 -0500
          Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 21:00 +0200
          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:27 +0000
    Re: Quantum Computers Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 00:33 +0100
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 11:06 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-11 07:00 +0100
      Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-11 18:31 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-12 12:53 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 05:43 +1000
          Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-13 05:52 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 12:07 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 02:52 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 05:39 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 08:10 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-20 23:20 -0500
    Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-22 07:47 +0100

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#148055

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-07-08 08:14 -0400
Message-ID<mnj47q$2ob$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#148054
On 08/07/2015 7:58 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

>
> God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
> found guilty.
>
>
> Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
> only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
> come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>
> As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
> would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
> extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.

Plead guilty bypass judgement. Son says I can fix it, dad who still 
controls the family business says judgement for all and everyone is guilty.

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#148061

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org>
Date2015-07-08 13:44 -0100
Message-ID<op.x1glv2vtxefm1i@anyhost.anywhere>
In reply to#148055
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 11:14:45 -0100, Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>  
wrote:

> On 08/07/2015 7:58 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
>>
>> God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
>> found guilty.
>>
>>
>> Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
>> only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
>> come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>>
>> As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
>> would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
>> extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.
>
> Plead guilty bypass judgement. Son says I can fix it, dad who still  
> controls the family business says judgement for all and everyone is  
> guilty.
I don't think the plea bargaining will work if this is indeed the case.
Why is Mum always left out anyhow? It's sposed to be a 3 way division of  
god-hood.
Extend and Destroy, same old MS tactic.
-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#148060

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org>
Date2015-07-08 13:39 -0100
Message-ID<op.x1gln6tgxefm1i@anyhost.anywhere>
In reply to#148054
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 10:58:50 -0100, Rick C. Hodgin  
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why must you be "saved"? Saved from what? What does it
> mean to be "saved"?
>
Excellent Questions.

> Judgement from God looms over each of us. He judges based on
> His standards, His Laws. His is a requirement of perfection. And
> none of us are perfect.
>
> God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
> found guilty.

Oh. He is harsh.

>
> If that was the end of the story, it would be awful. But it's not
> the end. This is where Jesus came in. To save us from judgement,
> God sent another in our place. God transfers our sin to Him, so
> that He is judged, and we are not.

Whew!  That let's us bad boys off the hook.
>
> Jesus literally came here to save us. Hia name means "God who
> saves" (in the same way Shoemaker means "one who makes shoes).
>
It's just a version of Joseph

Anyhow how is he going to save us from God (all powerful?) and isn't God a  
bit schizo to send Jesus against himself?

> God did not leave us abandoned to judgement, but made a way
> out. He made a way to restore us from sin, to save us from
> judgement.
>
> Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
> only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
> come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>
How about John the Baptist, how does he stand?

> As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
> would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
> extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.
>
What about LGM from Alpha Centauri? or people with Really Bad Sins?

> Seek Jesus for yourself. Taste and see for yourself that
> the Lord Jesus Christ is good. He will change your life... forever.
>
Is that using trans-substantiation?

> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin

I think I'd better leave it there.

-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#148115

FromBob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com>
Date2015-07-09 07:41 +0100
Message-ID<d06jdlFpbgkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148054
in 649296 20150708 125850 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>Why must you be "saved"? Saved from what? What does it
>mean to be "saved"?
>
>Judgement from God looms over each of us. He judges based on
>His standards, His Laws. His is a requirement of perfection. And
>none of us are perfect.
>
>God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
>found guilty.
>
>If that was the end of the story, it would be awful. But it's not
>the end. This is where Jesus came in. To save us from judgement,
>God sent another in our place. God transfers our sin to Him, so
>that He is judged, and we are not.
>
>Jesus literally came here to save us. Hia name means "God who
>saves" (in the same way Shoemaker means "one who makes shoes).
>
>God did not leave us abandoned to judgement, but made a way
>out. He made a way to restore us from sin, to save us from
>judgement.
>
>Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
>only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
>come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>
>As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
>would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
>extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.
>
>Seek Jesus for yourself. Taste and see for yourself that
>the Lord Jesus Christ is good. He will change your life... forever.
>
>Best regards,
>Rick C. Hodgin

Idiot.

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#148124

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2015-07-09 10:46 +0000
Message-ID<1891951930458131567.249396peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#148115
Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:
> in 649296 20150708 125850 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why must you be "saved"? Saved from what? What does it
>> mean to be "saved"?
>> 
>> Judgement from God looms over each of us. He judges based on
>> His standards, His Laws. His is a requirement of perfection. And
>> none of us are perfect.
>> 
>> God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
>> found guilty.
>> 
>> If that was the end of the story, it would be awful. But it's not
>> the end. This is where Jesus came in. To save us from judgement,
>> God sent another in our place. God transfers our sin to Him, so
>> that He is judged, and we are not.
>> 
>> Jesus literally came here to save us. Hia name means "God who
>> saves" (in the same way Shoemaker means "one who makes shoes).
>> 
>> God did not leave us abandoned to judgement, but made a way
>> out. He made a way to restore us from sin, to save us from
>> judgement.
>> 
>> Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
>> only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
>> come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>> 
>> As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
>> would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
>> extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.
>> 
>> Seek Jesus for yourself. Taste and see for yourself that
>> the Lord Jesus Christ is good. He will change your life... forever.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Rick C. Hodgin
> 
> Idiot.

This is why missionaries were killed so frequently - not because of what
they were preaching but because they kept yelling their stuff at the most
inappropriate times and places.

-- 
Peteh

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#148233

FromLon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
Date2015-07-12 10:22 -0600
Message-ID<kMudnZ-ZU9PGCT_InZ2dnUVZ5tYAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#148124
On 7/9/2015 4:46, Peter Flass wrote:
> Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:
>> in 649296 20150708 125850 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why must you be "saved"? Saved from what? What does it
>>> mean to be "saved"?
>>>
>>> Judgement from God looms over each of us. He judges based on
>>> His standards, His Laws. His is a requirement of perfection. And
>>> none of us are perfect.
>>>
>>> God will judge everybody when they die. And everyone will be
>>> found guilty.
>>>
>>> If that was the end of the story, it would be awful. But it's not
>>> the end. This is where Jesus came in. To save us from judgement,
>>> God sent another in our place. God transfers our sin to Him, so
>>> that He is judged, and we are not.
>>>
>>> Jesus literally came here to save us. Hia name means "God who
>>> saves" (in the same way Shoemaker means "one who makes shoes).
>>>
>>> God did not leave us abandoned to judgement, but made a way
>>> out. He made a way to restore us from sin, to save us from
>>> judgement.
>>>
>>> Jesus is that way. The only way to be saved because He's the
>>> only one who can take our sin away. And He will receive all who
>>> come to Him. None are turned away. No not one.
>>>
>>> As such, the only people who will enter into Hell are those who
>>> would not receive the free gift of salvation, the free offer of love
>>> extended to all mankind. All races, colors, creeds.
>>>
>>> Seek Jesus for yourself. Taste and see for yourself that
>>> the Lord Jesus Christ is good. He will change your life... forever.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Rick C. Hodgin
>>
>> Idiot.
>
> This is why missionaries were killed so frequently - not because of what
> they were preaching but because they kept yelling their stuff at the most
> inappropriate times and places.

Sadly, I believe that appropriate practice is no longer legal nor 
politically acceptable.


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#147960

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2015-07-05 15:15 +0100
Message-ID<20150705151527.36fa4ed2833e1a88272f7f9e@eircom.net>
In reply to#147940
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 20:37:34 +0000 (UTC)
davidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:

> When I first encountered XP, my first thought was "eXperience Points".

	For some reason eXPectorate came to mind.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#148062

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-08 06:46 -0700
Message-ID<a6d66951-f8ab-4a2e-8fa0-4c7ddfbacc2f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147273
The message of the Jesus Christ at the cross is for all those who
can hear the message.  The message is not for those who cannot hear it.

If you can hear this message, then know that it is Jesus Himself who
calls out to you to save you.  You should listen to Him, and seek Him,
and ask Him for forgiveness.  He has within His forgiveness eternal
life to give you.

If you cannot hear this message, then it is not for you.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148066

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-07-08 10:26 -0400
Message-ID<mnjbue$m7v$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#148062
On 08/07/2015 9:46 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The message of the Jesus Christ at the cross is for all those who
> can hear the message.  The message is not for those who cannot hear it.
>
> If you can hear this message, then know that it is Jesus Himself who
> calls out to you to save you.  You should listen to Him, and seek Him,
> and ask Him for forgiveness.  He has within His forgiveness eternal
> life to give you.
>
> If you cannot hear this message, then it is not for you.
>

Preaching to the base.

A few weeks ago I attended the funeral of a Hindu friend of mine.
(more than 40 years) Now there is an organization that really has born
again and eternal life sorted out.

Looking through the literature all is being offered is a form of
suspended animation for the soul until some point in the future where
it will finally gets sorted out who lives on forever. This was backed
by a technical demonstration of a single individual raised from the
dead 2000 years ago that they were able to keep together for 40 days or
so somewhat short of eternal life. A demonstration that hasn't
incidentally been repeated.

Promising to negotiate away personal responsibility and a delivery date
to some unknown point in the future. Everyone knows what this means,
salesman doubling down to keep customers with a product that isn't
ready and may not even work.

(I smell the coffee, Charles time to stop)

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#148109

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-07-08 18:13 -0700
Message-ID<okirpad5u14a9oo8ldlnsi9ono0kras7c9@4ax.com>
In reply to#148062
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT), "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

>The message of the Jesus Christ at the cross is for all those who
>can hear the message.  The message is not for those who cannot hear it.
>
>If you can hear this message, then know that it is Jesus Himself who
>calls out to you to save you.  You should listen to Him, and seek Him,
>and ask Him for forgiveness.  He has within His forgiveness eternal
>life to give you.
>
>If you cannot hear this message, then it is not for you.

     In other words, killfiles are our responsibility.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#148135

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-09 08:34 -0700
Message-ID<0ae522d8-6c58-42a6-8ded-b16ebbdfff17@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147273
Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.  When the final
day comes, and each of us stands naked before a Holy, Holy, Holy
God ... the reality of the way things are will be revealed to us,
and we will know what sin has done to our perceptions here on
Earth, and why it is each of us must be born again to see the
Kingdom of God.

Sin is literal Death.  It is spiritual death, so that the things
which are eternal, spiritual, cannot be known or understood.  All
we are left with then is our carnal nature, and that nature is
under sin as well (our bodies age, can get sick and fail), and it
is the dominion of Satan (sin).

It is the dominion of eternal life, holiness, truth, and all
things which are right, true, and proper, that Jesus is and moves
in, for He is everything which is all of those things.

The day is coming soon.  The trumpets are being sounded everywhere.
I advise each of you to listen to those trumpets and seek the Lord
while He may still be found, for as Noah and his wife, and his sons
and their wives, entered into the Ark, the door was closed by God.
And no one else could enter in.  And no one else was saved, but
only those who were called by God, and were obedient to His calling.

This is not a small matter.  It's more important than anything else
in your entire life.  There are no more things which are more
important than this, including everything you have in your life,
your family, your possessions, your friends, even your health.
What Jesus has warned us about is the thing we must have ahead of
all other things.  He must be first, because He *IS* first.  And
when we acknowledge Him as being first, we are His.  But all who
place ANY other thing ahead of Him, are not following Him, and are
following Satan, and will be cast into the burning lake of fire on
that final day of Judgement.

It is why He warns each of you... that you too might hear, and be
saved.  Please, hear His message, and listen to Him.  He calls out
to save you, and to give you eternal life in the Paradise of God.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148140

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2015-07-09 17:15 +0000
Message-ID<24843620458154876.019394peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#148135
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.  

Rick, did you catch my drift when I said preachers were martyred not
because they preached but because they intrusively preached in
inappropriate venues?

-- 
Pete

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#148141

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-07-09 17:25 +0000
Message-ID<d07p3mF3i1cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148140
On 2015-07-09, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.  
>
> Rick, did you catch my drift when I said preachers were martyred not
> because they preached but because they intrusively preached in
> inappropriate venues?

Religious nutcases are "alligators" - all mouth and no ears.


-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 44th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3181
                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#148234

FromLon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
Date2015-07-12 10:23 -0600
Message-ID<kMudnZ6ZU9MWCT_InZ2dnUVZ5tadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#148140
On 7/9/2015 11:15, Peter Flass wrote:
> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.
>
> Rick, did you catch my drift when I said preachers were martyred not
> because they preached but because they intrusively preached in
> inappropriate venues?
>
You are laboring under the illusion that he/her is reading any responses 
or is a real person.

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#148235

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-12 09:33 -0700
Message-ID<a2bb056c-8da8-4b0e-955f-16adf914ffb6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148234
Jesus Christ is love. He reaches out with both
arms to you. He brings with Him forgiveness and
eternal life, that you may be where He is...
forever... in the paradise of God.

Seek Him, and He will forgive your sins and set
you free from Judgement, and Death, and give
you new Life.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148237

From"Hank" <hfd543@nospam.com>
Date2015-07-13 05:39 +1000
Message-ID<d0fu46F5lhcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#148234

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:kMudnZ6ZU9MWCT_InZ2dnUVZ5tadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 7/9/2015 11:15, Peter Flass wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.
>>
>> Rick, did you catch my drift when I said preachers were martyred not
>> because they preached but because they intrusively preached in
>> inappropriate venues?
>>
> You are laboring under the illusion that he/her is reading any responses

That is no illusion, we can see the replies.

> or is a real person.

It must be given the replies and hypocrisy we can see. 

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#148240

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-07-12 15:20 -0500
Message-ID<mnui4f$bi6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#148234
On 7/12/2015 11:23 AM, Lon wrote:
> On 7/9/2015 11:15, Peter Flass wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Satan has twisted things so they are upside down.
>>
>> Rick, did you catch my drift when I said preachers were martyred not
>> because they preached but because they intrusively preached in
>> inappropriate venues?
>>
> You are laboring under the illusion that he/her is reading any
> responses or is a real person.
> 
> 
Oh, Rick is clearly a reading at least some of the responses, and a
real person.

Perhaps savoring the martyr-like feeling he gets from our responses.
"Where He had to bear the Sanhedrin and Pontius Pilate, I must bear
the sinners of a.f.c."

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#148241

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-07-12 22:34 -0700
Message-ID<rdj6qa1aent2bdsdc462cpbj12bt8648vm@4ax.com>
In reply to#148240
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:20:43 -0500, Dave Garland
<dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

>On 7/12/2015 11:23 AM, Lon wrote:

[snip]

>Oh, Rick is clearly a reading at least some of the responses, and a
>real person.
>
>Perhaps savoring the martyr-like feeling he gets from our responses.
>"Where He had to bear the Sanhedrin and Pontius Pilate, I must bear
>the sinners of a.f.c."

     Well, the sinners of foxite.com tossed him on his ear.

Sincerely,

Gene "foxite.com Sinner" Wirchenko

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#148143

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-09 10:35 -0700
Message-ID<ddd83517-901b-4b8f-bb33-a76415dd1c02@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147273
The Lord is coming to judge all sin.  Nobody will escape that judgement
if their sin remains upon them.  All will perish in Hell.

Jesus commands all people everywhere to repent of sin.  Those who can
hear His voice, and obey the call, will come out from the world, repent,
ask forgiveness, and be saved.  The rest will not.

It is personal for each one of us.  It is between us and God.  It is not
between you and your spouse and God, or you and your children and God,
or you and your co-workers in God, or you and your church members and
God.  It is ONLY between you and God.

Each of us is accountable alone unto God.  Each of us will give an
account of our life unto God.  And each of us will condemn ourselves
as we recount the things we did here upon this Earth, for all of us
have sinned, and all of us are guilty.

All of us need Jesus.  He offers His free gift of salvation to everyone.
There are no exempted people, except for those who will not come to Him,
humble themselves, admit they're a sinner, and ask for forgiveness.

Jesus Christ is coming soon.  Seek forgiveness before it is too late.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148147

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2015-07-09 20:05 +0200
Message-ID<20150709200517.14038949@maxa-pc>
In reply to#148143
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Jesus Christ is coming soon.  Seek forgiveness before it is too late.

It was written that he will come soon but it didn't happen. All
contemporary people are dead long ago... 

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