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Quantum Computers

Started byNeo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com>
First post2015-06-26 07:09 -0700
Last post2015-07-22 07:47 +0100
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  Quantum Computers Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:09 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 07:28 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 14:58 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0400
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 08:43 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2015-06-26 12:47 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 10:19 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:53 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:15 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:17 +1000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 22:01 +1000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 13:54 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:03 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 15:40 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-06-27 10:05 -0500
                          Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-06-27 18:47 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-04 13:03 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:40 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:19 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-27 00:21 +0200
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:34 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:14 +1000
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 22:38 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:47 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:56 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 15:46 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-05 16:37 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 10:35 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-05 21:12 +0200
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:50 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:56 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:16 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 10:16 +1000
              Re: Quantum Computers Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-06-26 22:20 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 13:56 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:08 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2015-06-26 11:10 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:15 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:26 -0400
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:25 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:31 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-26 21:42 +0000
                  Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-06-27 18:18 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-27 14:45 -0500
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 14:41 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 22:43 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:09 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-26 13:48 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 15:27 -0400
      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 17:49 +0100
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 14:02 -0400
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:13 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-26 14:36 -0500
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 12:42 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 17:49 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 14:59 -0700
                    Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:14 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 18:28 -0400
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 15:35 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-26 20:14 -0400
              Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-06-27 06:46 -0700
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 07:05 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-27 15:27 +0100
            Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-26 20:17 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 13:26 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-26 23:13 +0100
        Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 05:55 +1000
        Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-06-30 01:35 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-30 10:00 +0100
          Re: Quantum Computers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-06-30 09:45 -0500
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 07:14 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 15:29 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-28 16:02 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-28 21:55 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 17:10 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:07 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 11:19 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 04:30 -0700
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:00 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 05:04 -0700
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:48 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 07:04 -0700
                          Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 16:59 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 10:56 -0400
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:04 -0700
                          Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:13 -0400
                            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:16 -0700
                              Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:23 -0400
                                Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:42 -0700
                                  Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 11:59 -0400
                                    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:20 -0700
                                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:28 +0100
                                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 12:48 -0400
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 09:57 -0700
                                          Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 13:10 -0400
                                    Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-29 13:39 -0500
                                      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-29 15:07 -0400
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 20:30 +0100
                                      Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
                                        Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-06-30 16:12 -0500
                Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 12:58 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 12:45 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 13:50 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-29 14:45 +0000
                        Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:01 +0100
                  Re: Quantum Computers "ratsack" <ratgsack281@nospam.com> - 2015-06-30 04:58 +1000
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 09:28 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 14:36 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 10:27 -0400
                      Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-06-29 17:00 +0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-29 13:28 -0400
                          Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 12:05 +0100
                            Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 08:45 -0400
                              Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:52 +0000
                                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 11:16 -0400
                                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 05:23 +1000
                              Re: Quantum Computers simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-06-30 17:31 +0100
                      Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:55 +0000
                Re: Quantum Computers "John Chance" <JCJC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 05:02 +1000
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 13:28 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers cb@bobby.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-06-28 20:39 +0000
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 09:31 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-06-30 19:18 +0200
        Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-30 13:56 -0400
        Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-06-30 14:21 -0500
          Re: Quantum Computers greymausg <maus@mail.com> - 2015-07-01 12:06 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-07-01 14:49 +0100
              Re: Quantum Computers Ibmekon - 2015-07-01 20:25 +0100
                Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-02 03:32 -0300
                  Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-02 18:04 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-03 12:24 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-03 15:27 +0000
                        Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-04 11:41 +0000
                          Re: Quantum Computers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-05 07:21 -0700
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 04:57 +1000
                  Re: Quantum Computers davidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith) - 2015-07-04 20:37 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-05 13:10 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-05 13:49 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:58 -0700
                        Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 08:14 -0400
                          Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:44 -0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2015-07-08 13:39 -0100
                        Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-09 07:41 +0100
                          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 10:46 +0000
                            Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:22 -0600
                    Re: Quantum Computers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-05 15:15 +0100
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 06:46 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-08 10:26 -0400
      Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-08 18:13 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:34 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-09 17:15 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-07-09 17:25 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2015-07-12 10:23 -0600
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 09:33 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "Hank" <hfd543@nospam.com> - 2015-07-13 05:39 +1000
          Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-12 15:20 -0500
            Re: Quantum Computers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-07-12 22:34 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 10:35 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 20:05 +0200
        Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:15 -0700
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 11:19 -0700
            Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 12:35 -0700
              Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 23:26 +0200
                Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 20:27 -0400
                  Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:29 +0000
                    Re: Quantum Computers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-09 21:36 -0400
                    Re: Quantum Computers Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-07-10 16:26 -0300
                  Re: Quantum Computers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-07-09 22:37 -0400
                    Re: Quantum Computers "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-10 13:04 +0100
                    Re: Quantum Computers Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 14:37 +0000
                      Re: Quantum Computers "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-07-10 15:32 -0500
          Re: Quantum Computers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-07-09 21:00 +0200
          Re: Quantum Computers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:27 +0000
    Re: Quantum Computers Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-10 00:33 +0100
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 11:06 -0700
      Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-11 07:00 +0100
      Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-11 18:31 +0000
        Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-12 12:53 +0000
          Re: Quantum Computers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 05:43 +1000
          Re: Quantum Computers I. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org> - 2015-07-13 05:52 +0000
            Re: Quantum Computers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 12:07 +0000
              Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 02:52 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 05:39 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 08:10 -0700
    Re: Quantum Computers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-07-20 23:20 -0500
    Re: Quantum Computers Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-07-22 07:47 +0100

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#148244

FromI. Ben Hib Mortise <invalid@invalid.org>
Date2015-07-13 05:52 +0000
Message-ID<bQiD4U.AhB.ckDQp@gmail.com>
In reply to#148229
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:53:43PM +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
> I. Ben Hib Mortise wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:06:39AM -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > [snip]>
> >> Jesus will save ALL who come to Him.  The only reason a person will
> >> wind up in Hell is because they would not receive His free offer of
> >> salvation, because they were not looking for the truth, but rather
> >> were pursuing their own lusts, their own wants, their own ideas, and
> >> in so doing, will perish in eternity, because they are not in pursuit
> >> of truth.
> >
> > Is it just me, or is this last paragraph a bit much?  It pretty much
> > asserts that the only activities worth pursuing are religious
> > activities.  Secretly, I think, he has written off the great mass of
> > those involved in creative and/or productive commercial industry.
> > They must certainly be destined for hell since they cannot devote all
> > of their being to a proper spiritual existence.
> 
> Everyone else has to stop being productive.  Note that he sins every
> time he insists that none of us are "saved".  He has judged us which
> is against Jesus' rules.
> 
> >
> > Once again, it seems only the elect will reap Heaven's bounty.
> 
> It's worse.  Only the Xtians of his flavor will reap.  All other
> Xtians will go to hell also.  The church I attended when I was a
> kid insisted that all Catholics would go to hell.
> 
> none of his rhetoric is logical and the illogic is inconsistent.

Nor is it original.  

But it is a good thing we have religions telling people that they can
make up whatever stupid shit they want as long as they believe it hard
enough.  It is the only way poor, flawed human beings can possibly
hope to make their way through the vast complexities of life and
existence.  The record of History is proof enough of that.

But I do not think Rick is necessarily sincere.  There is the strong
possibility that he is part of the so-called intelligence community
attack on civilian Internet infrastructure being carried out by the
likes of JTRIG or their American equivalent.  There are a whole bunch
of sock-puppet whores of that particular type shitting all over Usenet
hiding among the "kooks", although admittedly most of them do not
bother to affect a simple faith.

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#148247

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-07-14 12:07 +0000
Message-ID<PM00051AD4E91F76D6@aca42b78.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#148244
I. Ben Hib Mortise wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:53:43PM +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> I. Ben Hib Mortise wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:06:39AM -0700, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> > [snip]>
>> >> Jesus will save ALL who come to Him.  The only reason a person will
>> >> wind up in Hell is because they would not receive His free offer of
>> >> salvation, because they were not looking for the truth, but rather
>> >> were pursuing their own lusts, their own wants, their own ideas, and
>> >> in so doing, will perish in eternity, because they are not in pursuit
>> >> of truth.
>> >
>> > Is it just me, or is this last paragraph a bit much?  It pretty much
>> > asserts that the only activities worth pursuing are religious
>> > activities.  Secretly, I think, he has written off the great mass of
>> > those involved in creative and/or productive commercial industry.
>> > They must certainly be destined for hell since they cannot devote all
>> > of their being to a proper spiritual existence.
>>
>> Everyone else has to stop being productive.  Note that he sins every
>> time he insists that none of us are "saved".  He has judged us which
>> is against Jesus' rules.
>>
>> >
>> > Once again, it seems only the elect will reap Heaven's bounty.
>>
>> It's worse.  Only the Xtians of his flavor will reap.  All other
>> Xtians will go to hell also.  The church I attended when I was a
>> kid insisted that all Catholics would go to hell.
>>
>> none of his rhetoric is logical and the illogic is inconsistent.
>
> Nor is it original.

Of course not.
>
> But it is a good thing we have religions telling people that they can
> make up whatever stupid shit they want as long as they believe it hard
> enough.  It is the only way poor, flawed human beings can possibly
> hope to make their way through the vast complexities of life and
> existence.  The record of History is proof enough of that.

Sure.  However, they are also told they aren't good Xtians unless
they force their particular flavor of Xtianity down everyone else's
throat.  Murdering is OK as long as it's done in the name of Christ.

>
> But I do not think Rick is necessarily sincere.  There is the strong
> possibility that he is part of the so-called intelligence community
> attack on civilian Internet infrastructure being carried out by the
> likes of JTRIG or their American equivalent.  There are a whole bunch
> of sock-puppet whores of that particular type shitting all over Usenet
> hiding among the "kooks", although admittedly most of them do not
> bother to affect a simple faith.

The world is currently in a world war fomented by the extremists of
both religions.  It's the Crussades being repeated only the weapons
include atomic bombs, both kinds of viruses, and the anarchists'
bombing methods.

/BAH

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#148361

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-17 02:52 -0700
Message-ID<0f1e8759-15ba-4de9-a1f9-5d673fcbf50c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148247
I wanted to share with you that Jesus Christ has come to the Earth, gone to the cross, died, and resurrected Himself. He did this to take sin away fot those who would believe in Him, to restore them to eternal life and a right relationship with God, free from judgement and the punishment of sin. He did this, enduring the pain and shame of our sin, so that we could be with Him where He is forever (in Heaven, in the paradise of God).

If you can hear His voice calling out to you, listen to Him. He calls out to you to save you from your punishment for sin, and to give you eternal life. He does this because He loves you, cares for you, and has a plan for your life, both here on Earth, and in eternity.

God is love. And He calls out to you with everything He is, with everything He has. Listen to Him. He will lead you rightly in this fallen world.

http://biblehub.com/jeremiah/29-11.htm

"For I know the thoughts that I think toward
you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and
not of evil, to give you an expected end."

God is building your future. It is sin which destroys,
harms, brings low. God builds up, unifies, strengthens,
comforts, and leads to prosperity (real prosperity,
not fleeting wealth, but prosperity which endures,
knowledge, wisdom, sharing, caring, service, a heart
of love, of peace).

God is love, and He cares for you greatly. Receive
Him and begin your new life, your eternal future assured.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148249

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-14 05:39 -0700
Message-ID<90f011b7-0881-40b4-8259-8b4d1cabcddf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147273
The walk of a born again Christian is one unto war. But it is not of
conventional war, as with arms attacking other people. When Jesus came
to the Earth, He did come for people. He came to save them from the
coming Judgement. And because this was His mission, and because we who
are His have His Holy Spirit guiding us from within, it is also our
mission.

We [all people] are fighting an enemy in this world. And Christians
know who that enemy is: Satan, and the evil he brings. Those who are
not regenerated by the born again nature cannot know the battle that
they are participating in, the myriad of lies and deceits and awful
treacheries that they are engaged in, and helping others to also get
bound up in. But born again Christians do know these things, and we
speak about them so that those who have an ear to hear will hear,
and come out from the lies and deceit, and will be drawn to Jesus
Christ and His Holy message of Love, of repentance, to ask Him for
forgiveness, and to be saved.

Jesus does not force Himself upon anyone.  He comes to each person
with everything He is, everything He has.  He stands at the door of
your mind, your spirit, and knocks.  He knocks continually for that
day that you will let Him in.  But in order to let Him in, you must
humble yourself, and because of the nature of sin, this is where most
will fail.

Jesus has done everything necessary to restore you to eternal life.
He has gone to the cross, and completed His transaction there, taking
on sin, being forsaken by Father God Himself, and dying so that all
of that sin died with Him, rather than with those who will believe on
Him.

Now it's up to each of us.  We must come to Him and receive His free
gift of salvation. 

There will always be sinful men who are not born again who call
themselves by the name Christian, but do not do the things Jesus did,
nor what His true disciples do.  Those who are in pursuit of Jesus
with a pure heart will know the difference, and will recognize those
who are doing worldly things, sinful things, in the name of Jesus
Christ, as that which they are:  condemned liars who are following
after Satan, and are on the road to Hell.

But those who reach out in love, doing the things Jesus did, teaching
of His words, telling people about the offer of salvation, the free
gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ, those are the ones who are of
the born again nature, moving as Jesus would have us move, under His
subjection, obedient to His calling, living their lives as faithfully
as they are able in the midst of this raging sea of sin and sinful
man attacking and impacting them from all sides.

The born again Christian's life and walk is a most difficult task.
It is only by His Holy Spirit guiding us from within that we can
stand.  It is only by His Holy Spirit that we are able to move.
And it is only by His Holy Spirit leading us continually that we
are able to no longer be like the world, but rather to stand up and
condemn the world for its sin nature, sin tendencies, and imminent
destruction in light of the coming Judgement.

Jesus offers people eternal life.  Each person must come to Him and
receive it.  Unless you receive it, it only remains a possibility
which still exists for you.  And if you do not receive it when you
hear His call, then you are hardening your own heart against Him and
it will be less and less likely you will ever come to Him.

Do not harden your heart.  Listen to the call of Jesus Christ in your
heart and mind.  He calls out to you because He loves you and wants
to save you.  He wants you to be with Him where He is.  Forever.  In
the Paradise of God.  Never aging.  Always comforted by His Strength,
His Purpose, His Protection.

He who made the entire universe calls out to you, personally, by name.
He is asking you to come to Him, and be saved from this world on its
path to destruction.  Listen to Him.  Seek the truth.  And be set free.

-----
http://biblehub.com/kjv/ephesians/6.htm

Here we read about the true battle Christians face.  Ours is a spiritual
battle against invisible forces at work against us.  These are the same
invisible forces which continually entice men to more and more sin.
They are the voices which lead me to believe falseness and lies, things
like "I am a Christian," when they are living like the rest of the world.
Or, "I am doing this in the name of Jesus Christ," when Jesus Christ
Himself never asked them to do that thing, but rather it is the false
and evil anti-Christ spirits (Satan and his many demon imps) who are
calling out to that person under some pretending, that the person who
is not born again cannot distinguish the difference, and follows the
false voice into false action.

The Holy Spirit instructed many authors of the Bible to spend many
passages warning Christians about this, because He knew it would come
to pass throughout history, and in the end times.  But rest assured
that no true Christian, no truly redeemed person, will continue on in
any kind of pattern of lifestyle which is like the world, but instead
will speak and live those things which God has commanded, to the best
of their abilities, teaching others all the while, even in the face of
must scorn and ridicule.  They do it because God's Holy Spirit guiding
them from within is not a small thing, but it is the overriding thing
in their life, because it is Life and it is God Himself.

The warrior nature of a born again Christian is against the evil
spirit enemy of God, and all of that evil spirit's false teachings,
false ideas, false beliefs, false assurances.  We battle against those
aspects of our life here in this world so as to reach those who today
are not believers in Jesus Christ, but tomorrow will be.  It is for
those who will hear His call, come out, repent, ask forgiveness, and
be saved, that we labor.  It is not in vain, nor is it for any who
will not come out and be saved.

We are in service to the Lord and His Kingdom, which is an eternal,
spiritual Kingdom of Power, Love, and true security, for He is God
Almighty, above who there is no other.

-----
[The Full Armor of God]

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of
   his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against
   the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
   principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness
   of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able
   to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having
   on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to
   quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which
   is the word of God:

[Pray Continually]

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and
   watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all
   saints;
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my
   mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20For which I
   am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I
   ought to speak.

-----
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148375

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-17 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<6acf8471-612b-4693-8991-020b83804e42@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#147273
This movie is presented in a debate setting.  It explains
a great many things:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFOw5ZYnqM

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#148691

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-07-20 23:20 -0500
Message-ID<mokh9l$649$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#147273
On 7/20/2015 7:18 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> "There will be many in the Lake of Fire who
> commenced life with good intentions, honest
> resolutions and exalted ideals - those who were
> just in their dealings, fair in their transactions
> and charitable in all their ways; men who prided
> themselves in their integrity but who sought to
> justify themselves before God by their own
> righteousness; men who were moral, merciful
> and magnanimous, but who never saw themselves
> as guilty, lost, hell-deserving sinners needing a
> Saviour."
> 
> ~ Arthur Pink, "Another Gospel"
> 

Ah, come on, Rick. You demonstrated that you were capable of on-topic
posts, and you'll be accepted here so long as your posts are on topic
(i.e. related to computers, keyboards, or stories about them,
preferably old-time). You're clearly an intelligent fellow, and have
things to say about topics we're interested in.

But those of us (if any) who are "saved" in your (or any particular
god's) eyes, they'll continue to be saved. And the rest will continue
not to be, regardless of your well-intentioned off-topic posts. We're
pretty obstinate here. Religion is not an acceptable off-topic post.

Otherwise, you'll just start going into people's killfiles. Maybe if
you can maintain a ratio of 4 on-topic (or at least non-god) posts to
each god-post, if you absolutely can't restrain yourself. I dunno.

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#148771

FromBob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com>
Date2015-07-22 07:47 +0100
Message-ID<d18skhFf919U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#147273
in 649938 20150721 110506 "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>He is God Almighty, able to save your soul. Ask
>Him to forgive you.
>
>Best regards,
>Rick C. Hodgin

Do your friends and relatives realise that you've "lost it"?

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