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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

From "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
Date 2015-08-20 05:33 +1000
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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM00051DA91AE357EA@aca24012.ipt.aol.com...
> Osmium wrote:
>> "jmfbahciv" wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you think that factory workers are unskilled?  They are not.  The
>>> newbies hired are trained by the ones who know how to do the work and
>>> those
>>> newbies are not allowed to touch a machine without adult supervision.
>>> It takes great skill to keep a manufacturing line running without 
>>> hiccups.
>>> It takes even greater skills to fix what is broke and get the line 
>>> running
>>> in minimum down time.
>>
>> The people who keep the line running are an entirely different set of 
>> people
>> than the workers on the line. During one summer in high school I worked 
>> on a
>> line with an endless belt of containers passing in front of me.  Several
>> times the line broke, a happy time for me since I could take a break.  A
>> crew materialized out of nowhere and worked frantically to get it up and
>> running again. This usually seemed to involve welding and rarely took 
>> them
>> more than ten minutes. I was surprised at how often it broke, I think 
>> about
>> three times in the one month I had that particular job.
>
> Is it possible that you couldn't identify the skill set because you were a
> summer hire?

No. One summer job I had involved car maintenance and another involved
unsupervised scientific research, just the two of us, both summer hires, in 
a
very remote area.

>> What's your estimate of the number of manufacturing jobs that require 
>> skill?

> Every line I've seen had skilled and unskilled.

Sure, but we are discussing university degrees. Even those who keep the
line running by fixing what breaks don’t need a university degree to do 
that.

> The more time a person worked on a line, the more skilled s/he became.

Sure, but that is true of wiping little kids' arses etc too and cleaning and
construction.

Summer hires were never
> given the "promotions" to more complicated
> jobs because it was a waste of training time.

That wasn’t true of the scientific research we did which involved
measuring soil moisture in deep plastic tubes we installed using
a motorised soil auger that needed to people to operate it and
with the very long ladders we installed on trees to allow us to
measure the insolation in the tree canopy, all unsupervised after
we had been shown how to do that stuff.

>> I would be surprised if it was much more than one percent.  I never had a
>> job that I couldn't be trained for in 15-20 minutes; a different company
>> each summer.

> If you had gone back to the same company every summer,
> you would have bene given work which required more skill.

Separate matter entirely to what is being discussed, what
work needs a university degree to do it more effectively.

Even programming doesn’t. While I do have two university
degrees, neither of them had any computing content at all
because there was no computing taught in universities at
that time. I didn’t even attend one of DEC's courses, learned
it all from the perfect bound manuals that came with the
systems and from McCracken's book with Fortran on the
IBM 360/50.

The fact that you were a newbie
> every summer meant that you just did the work which only took less than
> half an hour for training.

We had a lot more training than that with the scientific research.
Basically the researcher showed us how to do it for a few days
initially and we were left to do the work unsupervised after that.

You might not have noticed the more skilled
> work involved.  I always did because I asked questions about how things
> got done, where parts came from, where parts go, and the politics of
> the workers.  There were supervisors and then there were the real
> leaders of each group of workers.  The last factory job I had had
> a male supervisor but the real leaders were two sisters.

And none of those needed a university degree to do their jobs.

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                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-15 10:16 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-14 17:28 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-14 22:47 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-14 15:58 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-15 09:13 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-14 15:31 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-14 16:36 -0400
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 14:47 -0300
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 05:01 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 16:01 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-17 08:19 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 14:50 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-17 08:41 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 07:38 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:20 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-18 12:33 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-18 08:56 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 05:33 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-18 07:42 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 16:03 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 05:28 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 07:20 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-17 17:25 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 17:42 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 09:55 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:50 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-17 18:14 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:56 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:35 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-17 23:58 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:39 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-17 23:49 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-18 00:14 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 11:24 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 09:53 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:45 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-17 13:17 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 11:54 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-17 13:09 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-19 13:57 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 07:45 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-21 15:59 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 07:11 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 06:16 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-14 16:24 -0400
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-14 13:53 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-14 16:15 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:26 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-14 18:23 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 13:44 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-14 15:55 -0400
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-14 15:52 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-15 20:28 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-19 15:11 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 08:01 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-26 11:01 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-19 18:47 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-19 20:09 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-20 14:39 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-20 14:07 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-20 23:25 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-20 21:40 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-21 09:29 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-20 01:15 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:11 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 09:40 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-15 15:15 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:01 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 11:15 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-16 10:30 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:59 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-16 08:44 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-14 19:21 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-14 19:05 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:40 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-14 16:02 -0700
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 09:38 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-15 00:23 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:28 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-15 09:08 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-15 10:16 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 19:34 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-15 18:22 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 05:44 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-16 00:07 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-16 09:44 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-16 12:51 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:32 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-14 15:47 -0300
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-14 00:06 -0400
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-14 17:21 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-14 11:56 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-12 02:06 -0400
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-12 12:05 +0000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-12 11:15 -0700
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-13 08:24 -0700

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