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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

From	"kshy" <kshy@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
Date	2015-07-21 13:18 +1000
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"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message 
news:ab150bd6-6cbb-4b56-88a8-306ac8ff95b0@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:45:35 PM UTC-6, kshy wrote:
>
>> Not in this case. You have to accept that the money
>> laundering that HSBC got caught not policing properly
>> was not the result of the actions of individuals flouting
>> the organisations rules, it was the result of inadequate
>> systems. And HSBC has essentially decided that it isn't
>> even possible to organise things properly and has
>> decide to not operate in Mexico etc at all because
>> its just too hard to do things in a way that can never
>> be used for money laundering and still provide a
>> viable service to those who aren't laundering money.

> If indeed there were no individuals within HSBC who were
> culpable of knowingly putting systems in place that didn't meet
> rules or standards for banks to prevent money laundering

Its never that black and white with ID checks.

> - but instead the company was punished simply because _money
> laundering took place_ because some of its depositors were criminals...

> then, even if we accept that such a law is legitimate, as a means of 
> putting
> the onus on the banks to do what they need to do, over and above
> standards mandated by the government, to stop money-laundering...

Its not actually a question of standards, it's a question of checking ID.

> then it is clearly appropriate and just to treat this as a civil judgment,
> and handling it as a criminal matter would clearly be unfair and unjust.

> The essence of crime is guilt - culpability - mens rea, or criminal 
> intent.
> Without those, there is no crime.

Its much more complicated than that when you
are talking about how well ID checks are done etc.

> From your description, there was not even any negligence - no one
> told them that they need to do X to prevent money laundering,

Its obvious what needs to be done with ID checks, the problem is how
to actually do that with 100% reliability without making it much too
hard for your normal customers who aren't laundering money to use.

> and yet they failed to do X.

Its never that black and white with ID checks,
particularly with electronic transactions.

> One possible conclusion is that the U.S. just wanted to disconnect its
> banking system from banking systems in countries rife with drug activity
> - but did not wish to do so explicitly to avoid diplomatic repercussions.

That clearly isn't the case given that only HSBC got so thoroughly
shafted and chose to not bother having a presence in that country
because the cost of operating in that country didn't cover the
revenue they earned from operating in that country.

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