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| From | lawrence@cluon.com |
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| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: seveneves |
| References | (3 earlier) <mrim7u$jf2$1@dont-email.me> <slrnmtqo8s.276.mausg@dmaus.org> <20150826093007.2f895d53e1f2c47b12546083@eircom.net> <d45hosFnbr1U5@mid.individual.net> <20150826124248.c626e062e9db87615d07a7ea@eircom.net> |
| Date | 2015-08-26 16:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87wpwigl0p.fsf@cluon.com> (permalink) |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > On 26 Aug 2015 10:12:44 GMT > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >> > On 26 Aug 2015 07:52:07 GMT >> > Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Noticing the present Chinese Stock market movements, I remember that >> >> speculators make money, not so much when stocks go up or go down, but >> >> wne they change any way. >> > >> > Only those speculators who guess the direction correctly make >> > money - >> >> Wrong. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straddle > > That's twisted - there's a reason I don't play the stock market. Yeah, but the loss exposure is similar -- in a straight option, you're betting on the movement as a vector; in a straddle option, you're betting on the movement as a magnitude. Either way, you only gain if your hunch is right, and you still stand to lose. Further, if you run the numbers, you'll find the NPV of either kind of operation is about the same (a straddle costs twice as much as a simple long/short option, but pays off twice as often)
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seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:40 +0000
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Re: seveneves Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-24 01:44 -0300
Re: seveneves Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:35 +0200
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:26 +0000
Re: seveneves Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:11 +0100
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-25 12:42 +0000
Re: seveneves simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-08-26 11:11 +0100
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-26 12:03 +0000
Re: seveneves simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-08-27 10:09 +0100
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
Re: seveneves simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-08-28 11:52 +0100
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:23 +0000
Re: seveneves Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-24 14:50 -0300
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:48 +0000
Re: seveneves Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 20:42 +0000
Re: seveneves Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-25 02:17 -0300
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-25 08:54 +0000
Re: seveneves scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-24 14:07 +0000
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:31 +0000
Re: seveneves scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-24 19:54 +0000
Re: seveneves JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:27 -0500
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:22 +0000
Re: seveneves "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:22 -0500
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:52 +0000
Re: seveneves Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-26 09:30 +0100
Re: seveneves Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-26 10:12 +0000
Re: seveneves Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-26 12:42 +0100
Re: seveneves Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-26 12:15 +0000
Re: seveneves lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-26 16:52 +0200
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
Re: seveneves "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 05:21 +1000
Re: seveneves Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-26 13:59 +0100
Re: seveneves Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-26 13:20 +0000
Re: seveneves Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-26 14:54 +0100
Re: seveneves Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-26 14:37 +0000
Re: seveneves Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:08 +0000
Re: seveneves Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-26 07:10 -0700
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Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-26 17:15 +0000
Re: seveneves Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-26 11:57 -0700
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Re: seveneves Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-27 16:05 -0700
Re: seveneves "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:18 -0500
Re: seveneves Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:09 -0400
Re: seveneves simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-08-27 08:42 +0100
Re: seveneves Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 09:18 +0000
Re: seveneves simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-08-27 14:30 +0100
Re: seveneves Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-08-27 23:39 -0300
Re: seveneves jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
Re: seveneves Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-28 11:45 -0400
Re: seveneves Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-28 12:15 -0400
Re: seveneves Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-28 13:09 -0400
Re: seveneves Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:20 +0000
Re: seveneves Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-28 20:41 -0700
Re: seveneves Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-29 09:32 -0400
Re: seveneves Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-08-26 16:26 +0000
Re: seveneves Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:55 -0400
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