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| From | Labor Day <Labor_day@test.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | or.politics, alt.fan, rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump |
| Subject | Re: V.A. Begins Drive to Put Homeless Veterans Into Guardianship |
| Date | 2026-03-11 15:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n1e7rhF22emU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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HEY! HEY!!! They run this place like an insane asylum!!! Where did I leave my M16????!!!!! On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 15:13:40 -0700, Biased Journalism <biased@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > https://nytimes.com > >V.A. Begins Drive to Put Homeless Veterans Into Guardianship >Ellen Barry, Jason DeParle > >A joint effort with the Justice Department creates new authority to compel >veterans into institutional or involuntary care. > >March 11, 2026 Updated 2:40 p.m. ET > >The Trump administration on Wednesday announced a new effort to initiate >legal guardianships for homeless veterans, which could be used to force >more of them into involuntary or institutional care. > >The new system, carried out in partnership with the Justice Department, >will invest Veterans Affairs Department attorneys with expanded powers >that would allow them to initiate and take part in guardianship >proceedings for veterans who have no family and are “unable to make their >own health care decisions.” > >The initiative represents the Trump administration’s most concrete action >to advance its goal of compelling more homeless people into involuntary >treatment for mental illness and drug addiction. > >President Trump identified the issue as a priority during the 2024 >presidential campaign and promoted it last July in an executive order that >called on agencies to use civil commitment to move homeless people into >“long-term institutional settings.” > >Critics say the policy shift raises significant civil liberties concerns, >noting that in earlier generations, people with severe mental illness were >routinely stripped of their legal rights and confined to state hospitals. > >The V.A. says the guardianship initiative would affect “hundreds” of >veterans who are currently in V.A. facilities but need “a legal decision >maker” to transition to a new setting. Some are homeless, and others are >“at risk of homelessness” upon discharge, the agency said in a press >statement. > >“Our new partnership with the Justice Department reflects our ongoing >commitment to ensuring that every veteran receives timely, appropriate >care,” said Doug Collins, the V.A. secretary. > >Guardianship powers are broader and longer lasting than civil commitment, >which is used to compel someone to accept medical treatment. > >Guardianship proceedings are typically initiated by family members, >friends or health care providers, and are argued before state or probate >judges, with the subject entitled to legal representation. If a court >finds that the person is not able to make basic decisions about health and >safety, a guardian is appointed. > >Guardians can control a person’s assets, where the person lives and whom >he or she sees. They can also require the person to accept medical >treatment. Unlike civil commitment rulings, which expire after a specific >time period, guardianships are intended to be durable, though they are >revisited periodically and can be terminated or dissolved. > >Michael Figlioli, the director of the National Veterans Service for the >Veterans of Foreign Wars, commended the change, which he said recognizes >“that some of our nation’s most vulnerable veterans must be approached >through a public health and social services framework.” > >If thoughtfully carried out, he said, guardianships could provide more >“structured support” for vulnerable veterans, though he noted “important >considerations regarding veterans’ privacy, potential implementation gaps >and the need for sufficient resources.” > >Rights advocates said they were alarmed by the proposal, which they saw as >part of a drive by the administration to place homeless people in >institutional settings against their will. > >“My speculation is that they are seeking to have people placed under >guardianship so they can have a person appointed who will force them into >congregate or institutional settings when there isn’t anything else >available,” said Jennifer Mathis, the deputy director of the Bazelon >Center for Mental Health Law. > >If there are veterans “sitting in V.A. hospitals” unable to be discharged, >as the V.A. says, she said, it is “almost certainly” because there are >long waits for intensive community services or independent housing. She >added that it is highly unusual for the Justice Department to take a role >in guardianship proceedings, which are governed by state laws. > >“I don’t know what their authority is,” Ms. Mathis said. The federal >government, she added, “has very little to do with guardianship.” > >Stephen Eide, who studies homelessness at the Manhattan Institute, >welcomed the Trump administration’s efforts to expand guardianship, which >he said could protect people at risk of “slow-motion suicide.” > >“More use of involuntary treatment is essential to solving street >homelessness,” he said. > >But he cautioned that successful implementation could be challenging, >since it requires coordinated efforts among police officers, social >workers, clinicians and lawyers, often employed by different levels of >government. “It’s hard to change big systems,” he said. > >A pilot project to expand guardianships at the V.A. has been under >discussion for months. > >The pilot, called “Project Safe Harbor,” identified five V.A. hubs that >had been selected to test a “guardianship model for veterans experiencing >homelessness” who lack capacity to make “appropriate medical and social >decisions for themselves,” according to an internal memo shared with The >New York Times. The sites were asked to refer veterans and take legal >steps for “placement into appropriate care sites.” > >There are about 33,000 homeless veterans in the United States, about >14,000 of whom live on the streets. Veterans make up around 5 percent of >the unsheltered homeless population. > >Ellen Barry is a reporter covering mental health for The Times. > >Jason DeParle is a Times reporter who covers poverty in the United States.
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