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  The bold text on new messages (linux) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-01-09 13:21 +0000
    Re: The bold text on new messages (linux) Barryedwin1 <mrbarryedw.20@aussiebroadband.com.au> - 2026-01-12 15:33 +0800
      Re: The bold text on new messages (linux)Postscript Barryedwin1 <mrbarryedw.20@aussiebroadband.com.au> - 2026-01-12 15:49 +0800
    Re: The bold text on new messages (linux) Mark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> - 2026-01-13 20:31 +0000
      Re: The bold text on new messages (linux) Barryedwin1 <mrbarryedw.20@aussiebroadband.com.au> - 2026-01-14 09:49 +0800
        Re: The bold text on new messages (linux) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-01-14 10:27 +0000

#8364 — The bold text on new messages (linux)

I had Seamonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed OpenSUSE
with Gnome. But now Seamonkey does not highlight new messages in the
message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the left. What controls
this sort of thing? (other than re-installing Debian with Mate which is
becoming increasingly tempting).

I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller, it
did not restore bold.

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#8383

Richmond wrote on 9/1/26 9:21 pm:
> I had SeaMonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed OpenSUSE
> with Gnome. But now SeaMonkey does not highlight new messages in the
> message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the left. What controls
> this sort of thing? (other than re-installing Debian with Mate which is
> becoming increasingly tempting).
> 
> I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller, it
> did not restore bold.
> 
SeaMonkey for Linux is built on X11/Xorg.

What you describe is what I encounter on Ubuntu/Wayland/Gnome.
Switching to Ubuntu's X11/Xorg mode recovers bold-highlight in the 
Mail_and_Newsgroups for the 1st instance of SeaMonkey, but so much of 
Ubuntu is now coded on Wayland, that it reverts to its Wayland base, 
ignoring the X11 preference.

Is your openSUSE/KDE installed as either X11 or Wayland? If Wayland, it 
seems like my own experience. Barry HTH

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#8384 — Re: The bold text on new messages (linux)Postscript

Barryedwin1 wrote on 12/1/26 3:33 pm:
> Richmond wrote on 9/1/26 9:21 pm:
>> I had SeaMonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed OpenSUSE
>> with Gnome. But now SeaMonkey does not highlight new messages in the
>> message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the left. What controls
>> this sort of thing? (other than re-installing Debian with Mate which is
>> becoming increasingly tempting).
>>
>> I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller, it
>> did not restore bold.
>>
> SeaMonkey for Linux is built on X11/Xorg.
> 
> What you describe is what I encounter on Ubuntu/Wayland/Gnome.
> Switching to Ubuntu's X11/Xorg mode recovers bold-highlight in the 
> Mail_and_Newsgroups for the 1st instance of SeaMonkey, but so much of 
> Ubuntu is now coded on Wayland, that it reverts to its Wayland base, 
> ignoring the X11 preference.
> 
> Is your openSUSE/KDE installed as either X11 or Wayland? If Wayland, it 
> seems like my own experience. Barry HTH
>
Sorry, I missed your OpenSUSE/Gnome. Gnome is now almost exclusively 
built on Wayland and is shifting to dropping X11 completely.
I beleive OpenSUSE has to built/installed as either X11 or Wayland 
desktop, but does not support both. Is that the case?

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#8400

Richmond wrote:
> I had Seamonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed OpenSUSE
> with Gnome. But now Seamonkey does not highlight new messages in the
> message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the left. What controls
> this sort of thing? (other than re-installing Debian with Mate which is
> becoming increasingly tempting).
> 
> I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller, it
> did not restore bold.

That happened with an update to Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu) around a 
year ago.  It seems an update to the "Ubuntu Regular" font used as the 
system default font meant the bold highlight didn't work.

There were suggestions in the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup to downgrade 
the package proving the font and pin it at the older version.

I just changed the default font on the system to Liberation Sans Regular 
instead.  At the time I didn't think it looked quite so nice generally, 
though not all that bad and now I can't remember how it was different 
from the original font anyway.  In Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop the 
fonts are set under System Settings > Font Selection (in the 
"Appearance" section).  It's probably different in OpenSUSE / Gnome, but 
perhaps that gives an idea of where to look.

-- 
Mark.

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#8403

Mark Bourne wrote on 14/1/26 4:31 am:
> Richmond wrote:
>> I had Seamonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed OpenSUSE
>> with Gnome. But now Seamonkey does not highlight new messages in the
>> message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the left. What controls
>> this sort of thing? (other than re-installing Debian with Mate which is
>> becoming increasingly tempting).
>>
>> I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller, it
>> did not restore bold.
> 
> That happened with an update to Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu) around a 
> year ago.  It seems an update to the "Ubuntu Regular" font used as the 
> system default font meant the bold highlight didn't work.
> 
> There were suggestions in the alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup to downgrade 
> the package proving the font and pin it at the older version.
> 
> I just changed the default font on the system to Liberation Sans Regular 
> instead.  At the time I didn't think it looked quite so nice generally, 
> though not all that bad and now I can't remember how it was different 
> from the original font anyway.  In Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop the 
> fonts are set under System Settings > Font Selection (in the 
> "Appearance" section).  It's probably different in OpenSUSE / Gnome, but 
> perhaps that gives an idea of where to look.
> 
Thanks for that Mark. Much appreciated. Hope it works for the OP.
I install the 'gnome-tweaks' package so fonts are in there, not in 
'Settings', but selecting system 'Liberation-regular' and 
'Liberation-mono' DID recover SM (and some other apps) bold PLUS colour 
highlight - even within Ubuntu's Gnome/Wayland.
(Also changing the 'Appearance/Styles' from 'Yaru' desktop back to 
'Adwaita (default) recovered the more user-friendly recognisable system 
icons and colours. Nice catch. Much appreciated. Barry.

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#8409

Barryedwin1 <mrbarryedw.20@aussiebroadband.com.au> writes:

> Mark Bourne wrote on 14/1/26 4:31 am:
>> Richmond wrote:
>>> I had Seamonkey on Debian with the Mate desktop. I installed
>>> OpenSUSE with Gnome. But now Seamonkey does not highlight new
>>> messages in the message list in bold, nor in the folder pane on the
>>> left. What controls this sort of thing? (other than re-installing
>>> Debian with Mate which is becoming increasingly tempting).
>>>
>>> I renamed my custom userChrome.css but that only made fonts smaller,
>>> it did not restore bold.  >> That happened with an update to Linux
>>> Mint (based on Ubuntu) around a year >> ago.  It seems an update to
>>> the "Ubuntu Regular" font used as the system >> default font meant
>>> the bold highlight didn't work.  >> There were suggestions in the
>>> alt.os.linux.mint newsgroup to downgrade the >> package proving the
>>> font and pin it at the older version.  >> I just changed the default
>>> font on the system to Liberation Sans Regular >> instead.  At the
>>> time I didn't think it looked quite so nice generally, >> though not
>>> all that bad and now I can't remember how it was different from >>
>>> the original font anyway.  In Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop the
>>> fonts are >> set under System Settings > Font Selection (in the
>>> "Appearance" section).   >> It's probably different in OpenSUSE /
>>> Gnome, but perhaps that gives an idea >> of where to look.
>> 
> Thanks for that Mark. Much appreciated. Hope it works for the OP.  I
> install the 'gnome-tweaks' package so fonts are in there, not in
> 'Settings', but selecting system 'Liberation-regular' and
> 'Liberation-mono' DID recover SM (and some other apps) bold PLUS
> colour highlight - even within Ubuntu's Gnome/Wayland.  (Also changing
> the 'Appearance/Styles' from 'Yaru' desktop back to 'Adwaita (default)
> recovered the more user-friendly recognisable system icons and
> colours. Nice catch. Much appreciated. Barry.

Brilliant! thanks to both of you, it worked. I changed to Liberation
Serif Regular. It was set to Adwaita before, but Adwaita does have a
bold version, so I don't know why it didn't work.

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