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| Started by | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-04-25 08:45 -0700 |
| Last post | 2026-04-27 04:07 +0000 |
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Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 08:45 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-25 13:12 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-25 18:18 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-04-25 10:26 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 11:01 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-04-28 10:14 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 12:40 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-04-28 22:21 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 19:36 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2026-04-29 15:45 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-29 15:04 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-29 15:10 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-29 15:21 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2026-04-29 17:26 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-29 19:41 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-29 16:47 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-29 16:52 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-29 16:54 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-29 17:00 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:41 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2026-04-29 18:11 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-04-29 20:20 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-29 20:30 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-30 09:10 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-04-30 10:03 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2026-04-30 05:48 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-04-30 14:23 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 20:16 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-03 21:47 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 19:33 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-05-01 07:04 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 09:33 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-05-01 18:00 +0100
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-03 21:51 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-05-03 11:52 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 08:09 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 09:17 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-05-01 19:10 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-05-01 20:16 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-05-01 12:57 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 11:58 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-05-02 21:15 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 12:53 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-05-02 22:25 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 22:10 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-05-02 16:40 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 22:01 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-05-03 18:49 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-05-01 22:09 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:08 +1200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-02 00:11 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-04-25 20:13 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 11:25 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 11:35 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-04-25 14:56 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 12:41 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-04-25 15:56 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-04-25 23:03 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 14:51 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-04-25 18:12 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 22:13 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-04-26 10:12 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-04-25 21:40 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-04-25 14:21 -0500
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 12:45 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened -- SOLVED! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 13:01 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-25 19:58 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-26 07:42 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-04-26 18:46 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 12:11 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-04-26 15:47 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 17:05 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-04-26 18:49 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 21:48 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-27 13:42 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-27 11:28 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-27 16:01 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 12:45 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 00:23 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-28 08:36 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 12:35 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-28 15:42 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-28 01:14 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-04-28 02:51 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2026-05-08 15:06 -0500
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-04-26 22:27 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-28 01:12 +0000
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> - 2026-04-27 13:24 -0400
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2026-04-28 09:15 +0200
Re: Unwanted update to 150 just happened Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-27 04:07 +0000
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| From | "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 12:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10sq9jb$33u0p$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16886 |
Lawrence DOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 13:42:52 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote: >>I did my own taxes for more than 65 years until Congress finally >>made the tax code so complicated that I could no longer answer all >>the questions that Turbo Tax now requires to deal with what my >>return requires. >Do you get a guide booklet? We do ><https://www.ird.govt.nz/en/income-tax/income-tax-for-individuals/what-happens-at-the-end-of-the-tax-year/individual-income-tax-return---ir3/complete-my-individual-income-tax-return---ir3>. It's novel length. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1040gi Plus, nearly all schedules to be attached have their own instructions. Nevertheless, I am still filling out the form manually with the help of my spreadsheet to perform all calculations.
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| From | Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 15:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10sr2ig$3d6aq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16886 |
On 4/28/2026 4:36 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 13:42:52 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote: > >> I did my own taxes for more than 65 years until Congress finally >> made the tax code so complicated that I could no longer answer all >> the questions that Turbo Tax now requires to deal with what my >> return requires. > > Do you get a guide booklet? We do > <https://www.ird.govt.nz/en/income-tax/income-tax-for-individuals/what-happens-at-the-end-of-the-tax-year/individual-income-tax-return---ir3/complete-my-individual-income-tax-return---ir3>. Of course!
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 01:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10sp1kp$2qbam$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16857 |
On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 21:48:53 -0700, The Real Bev wrote: > My heart just isn't up to climbing the win11 learning curve just to > make my once-a-year tax stuff a little easier. Here in NZ we get to do our taxes online. Nobody forces us to use proprietary software.
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| From | "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 02:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10sp7b8$2r6sm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16879 |
Lawrence DOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 21:48:53 -0700, The Real Bev wrote: >>My heart just isn't up to climbing the win11 learning curve just to >>make my once-a-year tax stuff a little easier. >Here in NZ we get to do our taxes online. Nobody forces us to use >proprietary software. How the hell did you ever get the idea that Americans are forced to use proprietary software? Taxes can be quite complicated and it may be worth paying to use software. I like Lacerte quite a lot. It's aimed at accounting firms. It's owned by the same company as Turbo Tax but the interface is so much easier to use. Data is entered into a series of schedules that sometimes have the same number as a schedule's form number when attached to a 1040 or business tax return. Unlike IRS forms, Lacerte's schedules are organized logically. All information about automobile usage or depreciation are entered on one schedule but outout to appropriate schedules on the tax return, as an example. If you aren't preparing a lot of returns of a given type, the per return fee can be quite reasonable, often as low as $25. I think Turbo Tax is overpriced. There are competing software packages out there. This is a good thing, For 1040s, as I commented in the other followup, I maintain my own spreadsheet.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 12:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10sr34i$3c77i$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16880 |
On 4/27/26 19:51, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > I think Turbo Tax is overpriced. When I was using it I was always angered by their special rate for loyal customers which was higher than the price at Costco or other office-type stores. Do they think we're idiots? Do they KNOW it? > There are competing software packages out there. This is a good thing, > > For 1040s, as I commented in the other followup, I maintain my own > spreadsheet. I know people who do that. I'm unwilling to go to that much trouble. Even at minimum wage (and as a retired person my time is worthless) I'm ahead of the game buying HRB. Last time I looked through Pub17 it HURT! -- Cheers, Bev Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
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| From | Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-05-08 15:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lbgsvkprd4pte2saagjpvfjkg2tpf6cecb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #16912 |
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 12:51:46 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >On 4/27/26 19:51, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >> I think Turbo Tax is overpriced. > >When I was using it I was always angered by their special rate for loyal >customers which was higher than the price at Costco or other office-type >stores. Do they think we're idiots? I've been fortunate in that I always seem to find TT at a reduced rate or even free, usually from the place where I have my investments or from my local credit union. The last 3 years have been $5, $0, and $5. I always use the Premier edition.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-26 22:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <e7itukd4hgouiak3bdnbes6tcrf68skjpp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #16848 |
In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 26 Apr 2026 17:05:23 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >On 4/26/26 15:47, Nobody wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:11:28 -0700, The Real Bev >> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>I have a Win11 (sorry I upgraded to 11, 10 was better) laptop that I use >>>only for taxes -- because I have to. >> >> Aw... life's so hard, and then the door to the crematorium beckons. > >If noboby every complained we'd still be living in caves and eating raw >meat. Even though I have top burners, an oven, a microwave, a charcoal grill, and a propane grill, I still eat raw meat, but I do have a house made out of wood and brick.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 01:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10sp1id$2qbam$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16848 |
On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 17:05:23 -0700, The Real Bev wrote: > If noboby every complained we'd still be living in caves and eating > raw meat. Actually, homo sapiens is quite unsuited to eating raw meat, or indeed a lot of other raw foods. We are born users of fire and tools. Or, to put it another way, it was an ancestor species that developed these initial skills, which in turn applied their selection pressure on these ancestors to turn them into us.
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| From | Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-27 13:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10so647$2ieic$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16844 |
On 4/26/2026 3:11 PM, The Real Bev wrote: > > I have a Win11 (sorry I upgraded to 11, 10 was better) laptop that I use > only for taxes -- because I have to. Win3.1 was OK, as was Win95, but > it went downhill from there. > Once I got used to the new GUI, and for what I use my PC for (mostly e-mail, USENET, web browser access and reading publications using Pressreader), I really don't see much difference. However, the alleged improved security and OS program size really cuts into my 8 Gb of physical RAM. Although I haven't noticed any slowdowns, the thing does crash and/or freeze up when I do something that pushes memory in use above about 90%. Thinking of adding another 8 Gb but the PC is already 5 yrs old and has been updated from Win 7 - Win 10 and now Win 11. Probably should consider a new PC but given the huge price increases recently, my enthusiasm is more restrained.
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| From | R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-28 09:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <10spmqb$1hpk2$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #16844 |
The Real Bev wrote: > On 4/26/26 09:46, R Daneel Olivaw wrote: > > No. This computer is slackware-only. Perplexity figured that Firefox > had somehow, in its infinite wisdom, added windows-formatting characters > (CRLF instead of just CR) to the text file in question. That seemed to > be the problem, and the solution given was correct. > vi policies.json :set ff=unix :wq! ( file policies.json . will tell you if your document is crlf ) >
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-27 04:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10smndg$23j4t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #16841 |
On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 07:42:34 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote: > Looking at all the posts in this thread, this is one of the rare > times that I'm glad that I use windows 11. I'm an end user and both > want (and need) to do everything via the GUI. When I turn on my > appliances, I expect them to be user friendly. Unfortunately, Microsoft is busy eroding that “user friendly” aspect ...
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