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Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1

From Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.comp.os.windows-8, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1
Date 2021-06-19 20:09 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <salitb$o7h$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
> Chris graced us with on 6/19/2021 3:57 AM:
>> Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>> Chris graced us with on 6/18/2021 5:57 AM:
>>>> On 17/06/2021 19:04, Sailfish wrote:
>>>>> Eric Stevens graced us with on 6/16/2021 5:04 PM:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:30:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
>>>>>> <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is that all? Who thinks that's worth waiting for?
>>>>> So far, it appears to be mostly the GUI, with the underlying 
>>>>> apps/programs/control panel applets/ &c still being an unglodly mix of 
>>>>> Win10+Win8+Win7, ..., XP
>>>> Did you expect anything else?
>>>> 
>>>> Windows hasn't fundamentally changed since Windows 7. It's all just a 
>>>> skinning exercise so that the vendors can sell more hardware which 
>>>> supports the 'new' windows.
>>> Actually, yes, and it still might happen since this is an early look-see 
>>> at just the current GUI update direction and not the foundational 
>>> changes. 
>> 
>> What foundational changes would you like?
>> 
> Well, I'll consider wishes are like fishes and dare to hope.
> 
> 1. Bring back Aero, in all it's previous glory (transparency, 
> skeuomorphic icons, rounded windows corners, transparency, &c.) I don't 
> mind if they farm it out, as long as they open the architecture APIs 
> that would allow 3rd parties to replicate it fully.
> 
> 2. Make changes that would allow Win7 users and 3rd party developers to 
> create apps for its 30% cut store AND create the same programs access to 
> the APIs neccessary to allow them to be sold without going through the 
> 30% Microsoft tax.
> 
> 3. Provide less obscure access for power users rather than obfuscating 
> them as they now do on Win10.
> 
> There are others but this would be enough for me to seriously consider 
> upgrading.
> 
>>> What I suspect is that they will make significant 
>>> infrastructure changes that will put everything behind a pay wall, just 
>>> like Apple, disallowing sideloading of non- Windows Store software.
>> 
>> Apple haven't done anything like the sort. 
>> 
> Yes, they have with iOS devices.

This is a windows discussion so why are bringing in a mobile OS? 

macOS has no pay wall for software. 

>> There's no doubt that the app stores are a great way for
>> google/apple/microsoft to make money, but there are often alternatives. 
>> 
> Often not. Ever found a browser option that isn't based on webkit? 

What's that got to do with app stores? But anyway I use firefox. It uses
gecko. 

> Or 
> are you hinting at *Nix solutions? Even Microsoft has given up the ghost 
> with trident and gone with webkit for Edge.
>

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