Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-xp,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: [ Preview ] { Unofficial } Windows 11.1 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 20:09:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <794lcgh6ht9g9s4r7l25kh8g39rn32spl1@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 20:09:15 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="183505b47e155716436400fde1093847"; logging-data="24817"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185d0RQZf6GZvY1PgG/48OKmWojur9QKLg=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7mo5lOMA++FHpDCSpn2YMAaDz5s= sha1:sOBwPvGzGx9ZOv0OyM8bk3P2qDM= Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.os.windows-10:141901 alt.comp.microsoft.windows:1001 alt.comp.os.windows-8:31017 alt.comp.os.windows-xp:7250 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:158487 Sailfish wrote: > Chris graced us with on 6/19/2021 3:57 AM: >> Sailfish wrote: >>> Chris graced us with on 6/18/2021 5:57 AM: >>>> On 17/06/2021 19:04, Sailfish wrote: >>>>> Eric Stevens graced us with on 6/16/2021 5:04 PM: >>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:30:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ? >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that all? Who thinks that's worth waiting for? >>>>> So far, it appears to be mostly the GUI, with the underlying >>>>> apps/programs/control panel applets/ &c still being an unglodly mix of >>>>> Win10+Win8+Win7, ..., XP >>>> Did you expect anything else? >>>> >>>> Windows hasn't fundamentally changed since Windows 7. It's all just a >>>> skinning exercise so that the vendors can sell more hardware which >>>> supports the 'new' windows. >>> Actually, yes, and it still might happen since this is an early look-see >>> at just the current GUI update direction and not the foundational >>> changes. >> >> What foundational changes would you like? >> > Well, I'll consider wishes are like fishes and dare to hope. > > 1. Bring back Aero, in all it's previous glory (transparency, > skeuomorphic icons, rounded windows corners, transparency, &c.) I don't > mind if they farm it out, as long as they open the architecture APIs > that would allow 3rd parties to replicate it fully. > > 2. Make changes that would allow Win7 users and 3rd party developers to > create apps for its 30% cut store AND create the same programs access to > the APIs neccessary to allow them to be sold without going through the > 30% Microsoft tax. > > 3. Provide less obscure access for power users rather than obfuscating > them as they now do on Win10. > > There are others but this would be enough for me to seriously consider > upgrading. > >>> What I suspect is that they will make significant >>> infrastructure changes that will put everything behind a pay wall, just >>> like Apple, disallowing sideloading of non- Windows Store software. >> >> Apple haven't done anything like the sort. >> > Yes, they have with iOS devices. This is a windows discussion so why are bringing in a mobile OS? macOS has no pay wall for software. >> There's no doubt that the app stores are a great way for >> google/apple/microsoft to make money, but there are often alternatives. >> > Often not. Ever found a browser option that isn't based on webkit? What's that got to do with app stores? But anyway I use firefox. It uses gecko. > Or > are you hinting at *Nix solutions? Even Microsoft has given up the ghost > with trident and gone with webkit for Edge. >