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Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor
Date	2025-05-22 03:31 +0000
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On Wed, 21 May 2025 17:50:11 -0400, Joel wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 21 May 2025 11:47:16 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> Long ago, Borland editors used the WordStar keyboard set. I loved it.
>>> I don't know if the current Borland IDEs still use it.
>>
>>I liked the Borland C++ IDE and OWL better than MFC but the gorilla won.
>>iirc you could select the Brief bindings on the editor but it wasn't the
>>full Brief editor. I'd used Wordstar on CP/M so I stayed with those.
> 
> 
> The Borland C++ 5.x I had back in the day was great software, I never
> got into GUI-app development with it, but it was great to have, to be
> able to do college homework and experiment with coding.  In fact, in
> those days it was non-trivial to copy an optical disk, so there wasn't
> any kind of copy protection on it, not even a check for the prior
> version in the upgrade edition either (I'd initially bought 4.x but
> bought the 5.x upgrade after upgrading Windows itself from 3.x to 95),
> so when Borland mailed me a new CD-ROM of 5.x for a minor update, I gave
> the original disk to a friend from college, he could use the IDE/
> compiler and online documentation without spending a dime.  Such a
> different era.

Borland used the 'like a book' metaphor. You bought it, you can give it to 
a friend or whatever. Lotus v. Borland, although the Supremes sort of 
sleazed out of a decision, helped clarify APIs and UIs. You might be able 
to copyright an icon, but you can't copyright a button that says 'Quit'. 

Ever use Sidekick? That was another very popular Borland product. They 
were different in an era when the box the software came in included a 
parallel port dongle.

They were never the same after they bought Ashton-Tate. Microsoft bought 
Fox, which really was a dBASE III clone, spruced it up with a GUI, and 
created FoxPro, plus they had the homegrown Access. dBASE IV was 
stillborn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg

You never hear him mentioned in the big name battles but his fingerprints 
are all over a lot of things. I still have the CDs for Visual J++. I liked 
it but Sun's lawsuit ended it. Hejlsberg moved on to C# which is sort of 
Java like it should have been done. Sun might have done the world a favor.

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        Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-21 03:08 +0000
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      Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 02:55 +0000
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  Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-20 17:18 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-20 23:37 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-21 11:51 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 21:36 +0000
  Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 16:52 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 21:52 +0000
  Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-21 20:52 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 17:23 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-22 04:10 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-22 06:59 -0400
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            Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-26 01:20 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-26 13:17 +0200
            Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-26 19:40 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-27 13:08 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 23:55 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-28 12:38 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 07:18 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-30 08:47 -0400
        Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-26 01:33 +0000
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