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| Started by | Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2025-03-20 12:10 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-03-31 12:23 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 186 — 36 participants |
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OT: spam phone calls Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-20 12:10 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-03-20 08:53 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-20 17:37 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-03-21 12:08 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-03-20 12:58 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 15:00 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-03-20 15:21 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-03-20 16:16 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-20 18:53 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-03-20 18:39 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jason H <jason_hindle@yehoo.com> - 2025-05-07 15:20 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-05-07 20:39 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:48 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:34 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-03-20 15:50 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:32 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-03-21 12:18 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-09 12:50 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 15:09 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-13 16:08 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 20:37 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-13 21:27 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-15 20:59 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 13:40 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-05-15 17:05 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Invalid <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-20 16:31 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-08 21:42 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-20 12:59 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-21 04:41 -0700
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 13:51 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-21 11:23 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-21 12:32 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:52 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:00 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 12:14 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:22 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-07-01 09:17 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 19:53 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 12:35 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-02 22:09 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-02 20:20 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 19:28 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:39 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-02 14:40 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 09:05 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:33 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-03 12:18 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 13:32 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:07 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 03:17 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:03 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-05 21:14 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 13:21 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:03 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 18:56 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-06 19:49 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 19:35 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls James Heaton <heatonandmoore@gmail.com> - 2025-07-06 19:57 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-07-06 13:18 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-07-06 14:04 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-07 19:03 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 16:38 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-07 17:20 +0100
OT: floppies (was: Re: OT: spam phone calls) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-07 17:43 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-07-07 17:11 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-07-03 16:26 +0100
Tap to pay [Was: Re: OT: spam phone calls] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 20:04 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-04 19:35 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 11:46 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 11:12 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-04 13:24 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-05 01:32 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-05 20:15 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:55 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-07-03 11:20 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 12:43 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 23:00 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-03 20:50 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-03 19:29 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-03 20:55 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:13 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-03 22:40 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-07-05 19:18 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-07-03 22:13 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:13 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:53 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 12:10 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-22 17:06 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-22 13:24 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-22 22:43 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:36 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:27 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:22 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:07 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:19 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 09:14 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 18:10 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-28 23:01 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:42 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-28 21:04 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:37 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 20:18 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:54 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-29 21:19 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:06 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 22:04 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-01 16:54 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-01 19:01 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:30 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-01 18:06 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:26 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:11 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-05-03 15:08 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:04 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:41 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:26 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-30 06:36 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:04 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 19:01 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:34 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:53 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:27 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-29 15:03 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-29 16:21 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:58 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-30 10:13 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:07 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2025-04-30 15:36 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:50 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:39 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:23 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:09 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:02 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:30 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:48 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:44 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 11:57 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-29 11:09 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:36 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 11:48 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 13:14 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 20:29 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:39 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 13:36 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 21:56 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-05-24 10:17 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-24 17:05 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-21 18:11 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-03 08:28 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-03 14:37 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-08 21:55 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-08 08:10 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-08 13:52 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:33 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-09 11:45 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:16 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-10 09:33 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 14:40 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-29 21:23 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:13 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-04-28 21:19 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 16:51 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 12:42 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 11:35 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-29 15:35 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-04-29 15:06 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:15 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:17 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-29 12:57 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 20:23 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-04-08 17:06 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-04-08 18:55 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2025-04-09 14:16 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:52 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:04 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-04-09 12:21 +0200
Re: OT: spam phone calls ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-09 19:54 +0000
Re: OT: spam phone calls Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-09 17:07 -0500
Re: OT: spam phone calls JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2025-04-10 09:18 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:10 +0100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-13 22:55 +1000
Re: OT: spam phone calls mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-03-20 14:21 -0400
Re: OT: spam phone calls Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 20:35 +1100
Re: OT: spam phone calls Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-31 12:23 +0000
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 11:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <86ecxb1bxa.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #184142 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > On 2025-04-29 12:09, Graham J wrote: >> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> >>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I >>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can >>>> give it a call. 😜 >>> >>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire >>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call! >>> >> At least the phone system works when there's a power failure! >> Useful to know ... > > Mine did, but not everybody's. > > Just heard from someone that people had to physically go to the office > of one known brand of elevators to go and rescue some trapped people > in this or that lift. Phone at that office was off. > > On most places, the land line failed instantly, because the network is > fibre and needs power at sites. Mine failed instantly, and it is on > UPS. Mobile worked while towers had battery. It is possible that my > tower was on the main exchange, so they had a big battery and a > generator. Did analog and digital landlines fail equally? or maybe there are no analog lines left in Spain.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 13:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pso6elxctr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #184145 |
On 2025-04-29 12:48, Richmond wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > >> On 2025-04-29 12:09, Graham J wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I >>>>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can >>>>> give it a call. 😜 >>>> >>>> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire >>>> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call! >>>> >>> At least the phone system works when there's a power failure! >>> Useful to know ... >> >> Mine did, but not everybody's. >> >> Just heard from someone that people had to physically go to the office >> of one known brand of elevators to go and rescue some trapped people >> in this or that lift. Phone at that office was off. >> >> On most places, the land line failed instantly, because the network is >> fibre and needs power at sites. Mine failed instantly, and it is on >> UPS. Mobile worked while towers had battery. It is possible that my >> tower was on the main exchange, so they had a big battery and a >> generator. > > Did analog and digital landlines fail equally? or maybe there are no > analog lines left in Spain. There are no longer POT lines in Spain (copper pair), at least with the majority provider, Telefónica. It has switched to fibre network. At locations with no fibre, they use some radio system instead. I don't know the exact situation with other providers, I haven't heard about them. For example, the old network of the cable company ONO, which now belongs to Vodafone, is fibre to the block, then coax to the home. On apartment buildings, they see a copper pair getting to their phone from the basement. But there is a fibre coming to the building, so service is down if there is no electricity. I do not know if they have their own power supply coming from their main exchange. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 21:54 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vv505b$3fkjk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184146 |
On 29/04/2025 9:14 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: <Snip> > For example, the old network of the cable company ONO, which now belongs > to Vodafone, is fibre to the block, then coax to the home. On apartment > buildings, they see a copper pair getting to their phone from the > basement. But there is a fibre coming to the building, so service is > down if there is no electricity. I do not know if they have their own > power supply coming from their main exchange. > Similar in Australia. We used to have twisted pair cable all over the place but, back in about 2010, the Federal Government set up the National Broadband Network (NBN) which would have Optical Fibre to the box in the street and then twisted pair to the premises .... unless the premises owner (i.e. Businesses) pays for Fibre. Some Rural subscribers go Satellite Phone service. -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 20:29 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vuq9n3$1j1v8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184138 |
On 29/04/2025 7:57 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote: >> >> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I >> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can >> give it a call. 😜 > > I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire > country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call! > Well, with Power out, I guess you weren't doing anything else .... so, maybe, your spammer was wanting to give you something to do. '-P -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-29 12:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <trm6elxbpn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #184141 |
On 2025-04-29 12:29, Daniel70 wrote: > On 29/04/2025 7:57 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-04-28 15:01, Daniel70 wrote: >>> >>> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I >>> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can >>> give it a call. 😜 >> >> I got one spam call yesterday. You know, I live in Spain, the entire >> country was suffering a power failure, yet I got one spam call! >> > Well, with Power out, I guess you weren't doing anything else .... so, > maybe, your spammer was wanting to give you something to do. '-P I was bored. I answered, but got nobody saying anything, so I had to hang down. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 13:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vutg1m.svo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #184119 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: [...] > Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I > actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can give > it a call. ;-P That' SO (before-)last decade! :-) That's what my watch is for. Watch has 'Find Phone'. Laptop has 'Find Phone'. Google TV Streamer has 'Find Remote'. Google TV Streamer is cable connected to the TV, so can not get lost. Laptop can get lost, but not so easily. Mother's Day is coming up, but she will *not* get a 'Find Hubby' gadget!
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 21:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vv508j$3fkjk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184194 |
On 30/04/2025 11:36 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > [...] >> Now-a-days, apart from the Spammers .... just about the only time I >> actually use the Landline is when I've misplaced my mobile so I can give >> it a call. ;-P > > That' SO (before-)last decade! :-) That's what my watch is for. > > Watch has 'Find Phone'. Laptop has 'Find Phone'. Google TV Streamer > has 'Find Remote'. > > Google TV Streamer is cable connected to the TV, so can not get lost. > Laptop can get lost, but not so easily. > > Mother's Day is coming up, but she will *not* get a 'Find Hubby' > gadget! > Oh, you Hi-Tech person, You!! -- Daniel70
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| From | JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2025-05-24 10:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <100s2s6$kemf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #184119 |
Odd one this morning, phone rings with number withheld. When I answered, they asked for me by my name. I asked who was calling. Someone with a local accent replied it was <a forename and surname> from <a Scottish bank> I asked why he was calling me and he just hung up. Unusual for them to claim to be calling from a named bank, it is usually 'your bank' or 'bank security'
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-24 17:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6831fc4b$1$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #184541 |
On Sat, 24 May 2025 10:17:57 +0100, JMB99 wrote: > Odd one this morning, phone rings with number withheld. [snip] I got another one of those calls about "Comcast discounts". I suppose they don't actually care that Comcast isn't available here. The message was also inconsistent, including both of: "Your discount has expired." "You can stop it from expiring." -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together?"
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 18:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67ddabcc$0$16738$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #182978 |
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:51:34 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: [snip] > Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they rotate > their numbers, you are probably blocking some innocent person, and not > really blocking the spammers. That said, I also block them. I've tried blocking numbers. If helps with some things (like charities that seem to think I'm an ATM) but doesn't help with spammers (too many numbers). I seldom answer spam calls on my home phone because of caller ID NAME (the current usual pattern for spammers is the name is a copy of the number). I really wish cell phones would provide that. I probably miss some real calls by ignoring unknown numbers. [snip] -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "They are not jackbooted Nazi thugs. They are merely German policemen in spiffy uniforms here to help us." - Vichy government (1941 - 1945)
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-03 08:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cmvsujt7au6qn4rsppf3kdjeu36g3jt7kr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #182983 |
In comp.mobile.android, on 21 Mar 2025 18:11:24 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: > >I've tried blocking numbers. If helps with some things (like charities >that seem to think I'm an ATM) but doesn't help with spammers (too many >numbers). Oh yeah, another advantage to not turning the cell phone on. I don't get many spam calls even when it's on, but I get none when it's off. > >I seldom answer spam calls on my home phone because of caller ID NAME (the >current usual pattern for spammers is the name is a copy of the number). I >really wish cell phones would provide that. I probably miss some real >calls by ignoring unknown numbers.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-03 14:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <91c2clx7i7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #183222 |
On 2025-04-03 14:28, micky wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on 21 Mar 2025 18:11:24 GMT, Mark Lloyd > <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: > >> >> I've tried blocking numbers. If helps with some things (like charities >> that seem to think I'm an ATM) but doesn't help with spammers (too many >> numbers). > > Oh yeah, another advantage to not turning the cell phone on. I don't > get many spam calls even when it's on, but I get none when it's off. We use "do not disturb" mode or airplane mode. Or, use features like do not ring if not in address book. >> >> I seldom answer spam calls on my home phone because of caller ID NAME (the >> current usual pattern for spammers is the name is a copy of the number). I >> really wish cell phones would provide that. I probably miss some real >> calls by ignoring unknown numbers. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-04-08 21:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <vt32s7$2628d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #182978 |
On 21/03/2025 11:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-03-21 12:41, John C. wrote: <Snip> >> I add all such calls to my blocked list. Over time, that's helped reduce >> spam calls tremendously. Also, I'm like you in that I won't answer a >> call from a number I don't recognize. > > Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they rotate > their numbers, you are probably blocking some innocent person, and not > really blocking the spammers. That said, I also block them. > > I also use an application that has a huge list of numbers to block, > Truecaller. > For some weird reason my Landline phone socket wasn't installed in the Lounge/Kitchen/Dinning-room but in the main bedroom instead! After a couple of weeks of mad-dashes from the Lounge into the Bedroom when the phone rang, only to find it was a Spammer caller calling, I brought a Wireless Phone WITH Built-in Answer machine. Now, when the Landline rings, I just let it ring ... until the Answer Machine starts up and, more often than not, when my Answer Machine starts up, the calling person/machine/whatever hangs up. ;-) -- Daniel70
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| From | "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-08 08:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vt33nb$24gb9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183359 |
On 4/8/25 07:55 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 21/03/2025 11:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-03-21 12:41, John C. wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> I add all such calls to my blocked list. Over time, that's helped reduce
>>> spam calls tremendously. Also, I'm like you in that I won't answer a
>>> call from a number I don't recognize.
>>
>> Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they rotate their numbers,
>> you are probably blocking some innocent person, and not really blocking the spammers.
>> That said, I also block them.
>>
>> I also use an application that has a huge list of numbers to block, Truecaller.
>>
> For some weird reason my Landline phone socket wasn't installed in the Lounge/Kitchen/
> Dinning-room but in the main bedroom instead!
>
> After a couple of weeks of mad-dashes from the Lounge into the Bedroom when the phone
> rang, only to find it was a Spammer caller calling, I brought a Wireless Phone WITH Built-
> in Answer machine.
>
> Now, when the Landline rings, I just let it ring ... until the Answer Machine starts up
> and, more often than not, when my Answer Machine starts up, the calling person/machine/
> whatever hangs up. ;-)
We do a similar thing. Our phone/answering machine speaks the caller ID and/or number.
If the person is in the built in phone book, the phone will speak their name as we entered
it, and not some cryptic caller ID. Still, if the ID is some 4 digit number and no name,
we know it's a scammer.
--
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8, Kernel 6.8.0-57-generic
Thunderbird 128.9.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 137.0
Alan K.
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| From | Davey <davey@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-08 13:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vt366j$28v73$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183360 |
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 08:10:19 -0400 "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote: > On 4/8/25 07:55 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > > On 21/03/2025 11:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-03-21 12:41, John C. wrote: > > > > <Snip> > > > >>> I add all such calls to my blocked list. Over time, that's helped > >>> reduce spam calls tremendously. Also, I'm like you in that I > >>> won't answer a call from a number I don't recognize. > >> > >> Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they > >> rotate their numbers, you are probably blocking some innocent > >> person, and not really blocking the spammers. That said, I also > >> block them. > >> > >> I also use an application that has a huge list of numbers to > >> block, Truecaller. > > For some weird reason my Landline phone socket wasn't installed in > > the Lounge/Kitchen/ Dinning-room but in the main bedroom instead! > > > > After a couple of weeks of mad-dashes from the Lounge into the > > Bedroom when the phone rang, only to find it was a Spammer caller > > calling, I brought a Wireless Phone WITH Built- in Answer machine. > > > > Now, when the Landline rings, I just let it ring ... until the > > Answer Machine starts up and, more often than not, when my Answer > > Machine starts up, the calling person/machine/ whatever hangs up. > > ;-) > We do a similar thing. Our phone/answering machine speaks the caller > ID and/or number. If the person is in the built in phone book, the > phone will speak their name as we entered it, and not some cryptic > caller ID. Still, if the ID is some 4 digit number and no name, we > know it's a scammer. > Recently, I have noticed that spammer calls tend to have my local area code preceding the rest of the spoofed number, but I also let the answering machine part of the DECT system offer to record the caller's information, which indeed usually results in a cleared line. Serious people leave a message. -- Davey.
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| From | Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-08 20:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67f5882a$0$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #183362 |
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:52:35 +0100, Davey wrote: [snip] > Recently, I have noticed that spammer calls tend to have my local area > code preceding the rest of the spoofed number, but I also let the > answering machine part of the DECT system offer to record the caller's > information, which indeed usually results in a cleared line. Serious > people leave a message. I get spoofed numbers with a wide variety of area codes, although possibly more of my local area code. If the caller's name is given as a number, I NEVER have a message from those. I've had very few junk callers leave a message. One way to tell is if the first couple of seconds are missing, since those robocallers seem to be unable to wait for the beep. You get something like "...ficer. You are being..." (The missing part was probably "This is of", and there was no officer's name). This is from a scam that claimed I owed the IRS, and need to pay with gift cards. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the fearless advocates of liberty and justice." [Robert Green Ingersoll]
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| From | Davey <davey@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-09 11:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vt5j44$f311$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183380 |
On 08 Apr 2025 20:33:46 GMT Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:52:35 +0100, Davey wrote: > > [snip] > > > Recently, I have noticed that spammer calls tend to have my local > > area code preceding the rest of the spoofed number, but I also let > > the answering machine part of the DECT system offer to record the > > caller's information, which indeed usually results in a cleared > > line. Serious people leave a message. > > I get spoofed numbers with a wide variety of area codes, although > possibly more of my local area code. If the caller's name is given as > a number, I NEVER have a message from those. > > I've had very few junk callers leave a message. One way to tell is if > the first couple of seconds are missing, since those robocallers seem > to be unable to wait for the beep. You get something like "...ficer. > You are being..." (The missing part was probably "This is of", and > there was no officer's name). This is from a scam that claimed I owed > the IRS, and need to pay with gift cards. > The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use. The message is always the same. I let the outgoing message play, and then wait for the line to clear, which takes longer than it should, and I cannot clear it from my end using the buttons on the handset. It only clears when the caller drops the line. -- Davey.
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| From | JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2025-04-10 09:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vt7upq$2i6vb$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183414 |
On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote: > The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims to be > from some charge card company, and tells me that there are two charges > on the card, from businesses that I do not use. But never say which card!
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| From | Davey <davey@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-10 09:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vt7vod$2joqk$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183476 |
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:16:48 +0100 JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote: > On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote: > > The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims > > to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are > > two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use. > > > But never say which card! > > > Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same message, with the same charges. I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for renewing your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been exclusively a Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date! -- Davey.
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| From | JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2025-04-10 14:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vt8hp3$338qp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183478 |
On 10/04/2025 09:33, Davey wrote: > Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same > message, with the same charges. > I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for > pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for renewing > your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been exclusively a > Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date! I have had some genuine ones, usually when there has been a foreign transaction.
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