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Re: speaking of spammy crossposting....

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Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> news:hs502gF61leU2@mid.individual.net Sat, 12 Sep 2020 22:23:13 GMT
> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
> 
>>> You're no match for me, on your best day, snit. Code I wrote
>>> twenty years ago is beyond your understanding. 
>> 
>> When I said I was not a programmer a was a crappy scripter I meant
>> it. :) 
> 
> I wasn't relying on what you wrote concerning your abilities. You've 
> already established that you're almost as much of a liar as David 
> Brooks is. Instead, I was going by what I observed. It's more
> reliable than anything you'd write concerning your abilities or lack
> of. 
> 
>> Hey, you said a child could make an IRC chat bot like the one I
>> made. 
> 
> Quite true. I know several who have. well, teenagers at the time, 
> but I digress. What's more, they actually wrote theirs, from scratch
> on their own. You cannot honestly state that the bot you've taken
> credit for writing is entirely your own code...
> 
> You don't seem to have much actual experience with IRC and bots, 
> snit, because you think the one you have is something special and/or 
> otherwise unique. It's not. Do you know what tcl is? Are you
> familiar with an IRC client known as mIRC? There's *thousands* of
> mIRC script bots that do all kinds of things. Aside from the most
> primitive ones, they're all much much more advanced than the bot you
> take credit for. 
> 
> Have you even actually checked out other bots in various dialects
> and formats? I don't think you've actually done this, because if you
> had, you'd quickly realize how lame yours is by comparison to
> hundreds of thousands of already existing ones, some of which are
> using code thats decades old. Old, but, original code atleast.
> Unlike yours. 
> 
> I don't know why you're so proud of code that's not entirely your
> own, and isn't even making direct calls to your OS tcpip stack.
> Other than mIRC script bots, everyone I've known who actually took
> the time to write a bot for irc; that wasn't tcl based was using
> it's own OS tcpip stack. Why are you unable to do so? 
> 
>> I bet you still haven't.
> 
> What year did you first get on any irc network? And what client did
> you use to do it with? I ask because I started in early 1990.. via a
> dialup BBS that provided me a gateway to what you'd later call the
> internet. 
> 
> I actually paid to upgrade my BBS account to provide me internet 
> access. There were no local "ISP" in my local at the time, and the 
> board itself wasn't in the town I lived in. They were one of three 
> possible ways of getting on the internet, though. 
> 
> Once you hit the button to go to the net from the boards main menu. 
> you were on your own. It dropped you inside your own unix shell
> account. And if you didn't know anything about unix, you weren't
> going to be doing much. 
> 
> Back then, you had to know an IP address to a server..There were no
> domain names, no DNS, no centralized way of looking a server up.
> Either you had an IP address, or a 'war dialer' to look for servers
> or you found site lists and traded for them. The site lists
> contained server IP addresses, ports, logins and passwords. Some
> included specific instructions concerning the server layout. 
> 
> I eventually installed an actual irc client on my shell account
> though; bitchX was my first one. And I used it's scripting language
> to build my first IRC bot which exchanged files for people that I
> uploaded to my shell account. do you even know what I'm writing
> about here or have I already lost you? 
> 
> It's perfectly fine if all of this went over your head, as, for me,
> this isn't a competition. You probably feel otherwise, but I don't. 
> 
> I already shared source to an irc bot that's actually using windows 
> API calls directly to interact with an irc server, instead of 
> relying on it's interpreted environment to do the leg work for it. 
> I've yet to see you offer up anything close. The bot source I shared 
> is intended to be compiled as a stand alone windows PE32bit 
> executable, it has no interpreter. And it actually works under Wine
> for linux as well. I tested it. :) Again, it's not a script, runs
> under windows or linux. Can your bot do that? :) 
> 
> Can any code you've written run under more than one OS without any
> additional effort or work put forth by you? Most of my modern code
> runs under either OS; which is very convenient as most of the gear
> here runs Linux, and only one is left that's actually using Windows.
> And that's Windows XP sp3. 
> 
>> Even with me being so bad we have found one area of coding I am
>> more skilled than you. Curious. 
> 
> No, we haven't. Once again, you jump to conclusions for which 
> there's no supporting evidence. You barely make it as a script 
> kiddie. I can't think of a single aspect of coding for which you'd
> be able to hold a candle to me, let alone show me up. Sorry, but
> reality just doesn't match what you write. 
>  
> What's more, unlike yourself, I've never confused an
> actual virus AND worm for that of a trojan. To do so would be a very
> stupid move from a security/containment standpoint. Yet, you did.
> 
> How did you reach the erroneous conclusion that Irok was a trojan
> and not a virus, Snit? Or, is this going to be another one of those
> questions I ask that you just can't provide a good answer for? You
> do seem to be dependable for that. Easily boxed into corners, that
> is.  
> 
> 
> 

I look forward to seeing your IRC chat bot. The one you said a child could
write. 

But you failed to. 

Double-Oh makes excuses in 3... 2... 1... 

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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