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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8

Started byJeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com>
First post2015-09-12 19:49 +0200
Last post2015-09-20 15:20 -0700
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  Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-09-12 19:49 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2015-09-12 19:15 +0100
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Bubba <Bub@ba> - 2015-09-13 14:16 +0200
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Bubba <Bub@ba> - 2015-09-13 15:14 +0200
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-13 11:46 -0600
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:49 -0700
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:26 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 12:06 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2015-09-14 12:16 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 CRNG <noemail@atthisdomain.gov> - 2015-09-14 13:42 -0500
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 19:42 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:55 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 08:46 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:26 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 17:34 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:03 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:11 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 14:22 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:53 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:59 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 15:07 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 14:34 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:54 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 15:03 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 08:42 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:10 +0000
                                  dizum coward's post deleted, unread chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                    Re: chrisv loses argument, resorts to vandalism, snicker. Re: dizum coward's post deleted, unread "P.M." <pm@example.com> - 2015-09-18 01:16 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2015-09-15 22:30 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:13 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:15 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 20:08 -0400
                              Turdv is just retarded, so filter out this potty mouth villain. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:22 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 14:15 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 14:14 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:48 -0600
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2015-09-13 15:32 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-13 18:54 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:50 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 17:56 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 21:15 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 20:26 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:42 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:43 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:27 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:36 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-16 07:59 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 05:39 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-16 14:12 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:36 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:34 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:34 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:28 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:40 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 21:55 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:30 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 16:54 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:10 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:55 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:09 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 09:51 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:28 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 11:46 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:37 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:32 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:40 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:10 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 12:51 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:56 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:13 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:17 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 17:25 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 21:40 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 17:45 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 22:18 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 18:27 -0400
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 22:35 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 18:50 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:37 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 18:59 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 00:04 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 17:16 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 17:15 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 14:47 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:25 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:41 +0000
                                  Chrisv is a worthless advocate. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:15 -0600
                                    Re: Chrisv is a worthless advocate. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:30 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:14 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 13:24 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:12 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:38 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-17 06:05 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 03:57 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-17 13:33 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-17 07:47 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 08:05 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-17 10:44 -0400
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-17 17:28 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 13:00 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 15:09 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 19:09 -0500
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 19:02 -0700
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 02:19 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-18 09:21 +0200
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-18 07:08 -0500
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-18 09:25 -0400
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 08:15 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:52 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 11:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 22:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 11:06 -0700
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-18 09:22 -0400
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:47 -0700
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 03:20 -0500
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-21 05:49 -0400
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-21 03:16 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 20:59 -0500
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-21 21:09 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:45 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:32 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-18 13:30 -0700
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 15:50 -0600
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-18 13:41 -0700
                                                There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 01:40 -0500
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:34 -0700
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:28 +0200
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2015-09-22 15:46 +0100
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 10:38 -0700
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-22 12:54 -0500
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 16:41 -0700
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 19:09 -0500
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 20:58 -0700
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-27 03:38 -0500
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-27 12:14 +0200
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-27 07:05 -0400
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-23 02:14 +0200
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 07:09 -0500
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:53 -0400
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:26 -0600
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-22 18:42 -0600
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 18:56 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-09-28 17:33 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-18 07:25 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:54 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-17 10:17 -0700
                                    Chris Ahlstrom is a lin-troll and hypocrite. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:17 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:43 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:49 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:17 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:29 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 03:07 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 10:10 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 11:58 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 20:41 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 13:41 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 22:45 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 14:06 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-22 09:41 +0200
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 05:41 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:35 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 05:50 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-22 09:59 -0400
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 09:53 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 14:49 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-22 18:43 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-21 17:12 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 23:15 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0600
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 19:56 +0100
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-09-14 04:46 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-14 10:49 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:52 -0600
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 12:05 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 14:05 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 17:37 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 18:07 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:50 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 21:51 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:01 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 11:16 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 CRNG <noemail@atthisdomain.gov> - 2015-09-15 18:27 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 21:18 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:52 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:44 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-09-14 20:11 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 17:41 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 09:52 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 15:32 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-16 17:58 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 13:48 -0600
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-12 21:16 +0100
        (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "John Corliss (ES)" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 16:13 -0700
          Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 00:21 +0100
            Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "John Corliss (ES)" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:59 -0700
              Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 08:51 +0100
          Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> - 2015-09-13 08:56 -0500
            Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "John Corliss (ES)" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-13 15:37 -0700
          Re: (OT) Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2015-09-16 10:22 +0100
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:28 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 00:33 +0200
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lehman <drlehman022@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 23:46 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 00:59 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Dr. John Grubor" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 20:08 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-12 22:48 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 03:56 -0500
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 10:38 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 10:42 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 13:26 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:37 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 14:02 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 10:02 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-14 16:50 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 11:53 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 09:18 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 09:34 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 12:10 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 19:12 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 13:01 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 20:04 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 14:19 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 21:26 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 00:35 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 22:44 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:03 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 01:16 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:25 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:51 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:53 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 10:00 +0200
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 14:27 +0200
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 07:42 -0500
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:19 -0600
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 10:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 09:58 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:18 -0600
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 17:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 00:22 +0000
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 17:34 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 00:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 18:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 21:00 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 08:48 -0400
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 10:01 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:33 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 14:29 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 10:20 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 12:36 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 10:37 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:51 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:31 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:13 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-17 10:37 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 14:30 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 22:03 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-27 03:18 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-09-16 18:23 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:33 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:42 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 12:39 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:15 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:21 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 02:55 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-20 17:37 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 13:25 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 11:33 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:39 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 00:09 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 01:11 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 00:16 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-12 22:59 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:00 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:28 +0200
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 20:59 -0600
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:12 +0200
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:42 -0600
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 19:00 -0500
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:51 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:22 -0600
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-09-12 16:49 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:02 -0600
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-12 22:54 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2015-09-13 14:29 -0500
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 13:18 -0700
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#243016

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-16 22:35 +0000
Message-ID<d5u95rFtm0U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#243015
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 18:27:17 -0400, Caver1 wrote:

> On 09/16/2015 06:18 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:45:45 -0400, Caver1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/16/2015 05:40 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:25:47 -0400, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/16/2015 04:17 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:13:14 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never advocated fewer choices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE."  -  "mike"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (remainder snipped, unread)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If
>>>>>>> only you were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world
>>>>>>> would be better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and
>>>>>>> "redundant" work on competing ideas on how to do things best.  You
>>>>>>> would disallow the offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux,
>>>>>>> for the good of us all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>>>>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are
>>>>>> happy with the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop
>>>>>> linux. And I have no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of
>>>>>> the market and is fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech
>>>>>> niches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the
>>>>>> commercial/
>>>>>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important
>>>>>> about linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever
>>>>>> changing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has taken over some of the commercial world and is growing
>>>>> rapidly in the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Let's correct that a bit.  It has been taken in by some companies for
>>>> specific purposes but very few have switched to linux on the desktop
>>>> in total.
>>>
>>> No correction needed.
>>>
>>>>> As different gov'ts and businesses switch to Linux then the consumer
>>>>> world will grow.
>>>>>
>>>> That's been the story for 20+ years now.  No indication that it is
>>>> more than a pipe dream.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-
>> companies/091515/
>>>> ubuntu-linux-based-open-source-os-runs-42-percent-dell-pc
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pr2d3bx
>>>>>
>>>>> India is switching over also.
>>>>
>>>> The story is nice, another 'this is the year of linux' that appear
>>>> every year for almost 20 years now.  When the dust settles this time
>>>> next year,
>>>> there will be another story similar to it.
>>>>
>>>> But the 1.5% of marketshare will remain the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nobody said anything about a year. Just showing that Linux is growing
>>> in large chunks.
>>> Who care about market share. Most Linux distros aren't sold so are not
>>> part of the "market"
>>> By the way that is just two examples.
>>
>> Except for the fact that it isn't growing by even small chunks, you are
>> absolutely correct.  And I'd say give it 5 years and it might just make
>> 1.55% at the rate it is growing now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> When it grows at the rate of 20-25000 at one time I would say that is
> large chunks.

When that actually happens let me know.  Sure hasn't happened yet.




-- 
Lloyd

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#243019

Frommike <ham789@netzero.net>
Date2015-09-16 18:50 -0700
Message-ID<mtd65o$r8s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243012
On 9/16/2015 2:45 PM, Caver1 wrote:
> On 09/16/2015 05:40 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:25:47 -0400, Caver1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/16/2015 04:17 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:13:14 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I never advocated fewer choices.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE."  -  "mike"
>>>>>
>>>>>> (remainder snipped, unread)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only
>>>>> you were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>>>> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>>>> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
>>>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>>>
>>>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy
>>>> with the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux.  And
>>>> I have no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of the market and
>>>> is fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>>>
>>>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the
>>>> commercial/
>>>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important about
>>>> linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever changing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Linux has taken over some of the commercial world and is growing rapidly
>>> in the rest.
>>
>> Let's correct that a bit.  It has been taken in by some companies for
>> specific purposes but very few have switched to linux on the desktop in
>> total.
>
> No correction needed.
>
>>> As different gov'ts and businesses switch to Linux then the consumer
>>> world will grow.
>>>
>> That's been the story for 20+ years now.  No indication that it is more
>> than a pipe dream.
>>
>>
>>> http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/091515/
>> ubuntu-linux-based-open-source-os-runs-42-percent-dell-pc
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/pr2d3bx
>>>
>>> India is switching over also.
>>
>> The story is nice, another 'this is the year of linux' that appear every
>> year for almost 20 years now.  When the dust settles this time next year,
>> there will be another story similar to it.
>>
>> But the 1.5% of marketshare will remain the same.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Nobody said anything about a year. Just showing that Linux is growing in
> large chunks.
> Who care about market share. Most Linux distros aren't sold so are not
> part of the "market"
> By the way that is just two examples.
>
Nice sound bite.
Would be much more persuasive if the article had stated how many units.
42% of how many units.  And how does that compare to the population
of China?

These articles find some niche and extrapolate that to desktop linux 
success.

Many of the "successes" have been in cases where some organization
created an appliance based on linux and forced the organization to comply.
That's an excellent application for linux.  Gurus install/configure/maintain
the appliance optimized for the work of the user.  That's great.
Linux deserves to used on the desktop.  If it saves my tax dollars
so the government can spend it on other crap I don't need, I'm all for it.

But, that's a far cry from joe average making the decision to
use linux as his only computing platform on his home desktop.
Many are not willing to risk leaping into that deep/dark chasm
that is the linux desktop experience.  Once you get past surfing
the web, the "choices" are mind boggling.  A little organization
on the part of developers could make a huge change in that overnight.
They just don't want to.  And that's sad.

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#243039

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-17 07:37 -0500
Message-ID<spclvatjur8sbfj5leoi3olgneln1tf3um@4ax.com>
In reply to#243019
mike wrote:

>They just don't want to.  And that's sad.

What's sad is mental midgets wanting to supress the freedom of others,
remove other people's choices, so that they can have the restricted
choice that they personally want.

-- 
"Can you imagine if the all the skilled resources spread over 500
distros were to actually work together? As it is, all most do is
cherry pick other peoples hard work, change it for some petty reason
and then leave that branch to gather cobwebs as their interested
wains. The result is a confused market place and disgruntled
customers."  -  "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

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#243084

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-17 18:59 -0500
Message-ID<mtfk5k$bcd$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#243039
On 9/17/2015 7:37 AM, chrisv wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
>> They just don't want to.  And that's sad.
>
> What's sad is mental midgets wanting to supress the freedom of others,
> remove other people's choices, so that they can have the restricted
> choice that they personally want.

Yes, isn't it something how on one hand they say Linux only has 1.5% of 
the market, and on the other hand they fight tooth and nail against 
Linux?   All those billions in profits Crapple and M$ makes aren't 
enough for their shills?  They won't be happy unless those are the only 
two choices?   And then a certain thing that will remain nameless can 
tell us that's actually abundant choice.

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#243085

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-18 00:04 +0000
Message-ID<d612nuFmaj4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#243084
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 18:59:47 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> On 9/17/2015 7:37 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> mike wrote:
>>
>>> They just don't want to.  And that's sad.
>>
>> What's sad is mental midgets wanting to supress the freedom of others,
>> remove other people's choices, so that they can have the restricted
>> choice that they personally want.
> 
> Yes, isn't it something how on one hand they say Linux only has 1.5% of
> the market, and on the other hand they fight tooth and nail against
> Linux?

No fighting involved,  at least for me.  Linux desktop is technically 
fine, it just has a structure behind it that will keep it on the smallest 
of fringes.

None of that structure is about the technology, just mindsets and idiocy 
when it comes to business.

   All those billions in profits Crapple and M$ makes aren't
> enough for their shills?  They won't be happy unless those are the only
> two choices?   And then a certain thing that will remain nameless can
> tell us that's actually abundant choice.

A bullshit statement from no-brains, what's new about that?




-- 
Lloyd

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#243089

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-17 17:16 -0700
Message-ID<D220A603.5C3EC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243085
On 9/17/15, 5:04 PM, in article d612nuFmaj4U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 18:59:47 -0500, Nobody wrote:
> 
>> On 9/17/2015 7:37 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>> mike wrote:
>>> 
>>>> They just don't want to.  And that's sad.
>>> 
>>> What's sad is mental midgets wanting to supress the freedom of others,
>>> remove other people's choices, so that they can have the restricted
>>> choice that they personally want.
>> 
>> Yes, isn't it something how on one hand they say Linux only has 1.5% of
>> the market, and on the other hand they fight tooth and nail against
>> Linux?
> 
> No fighting involved,  at least for me.  Linux desktop is technically
> fine, it just has a structure behind it that will keep it on the smallest
> of fringes.

The user experience is not competitive in many areas. That in itself holds
it back.

> None of that structure is about the technology, just mindsets and idiocy
> when it comes to business.
> 
>>    All those billions in profits Crapple and M$ makes aren't
>> enough for their shills?  They won't be happy unless those are the only
>> two choices?   And then a certain thing that will remain nameless can
>> tell us that's actually abundant choice.
> 
> A bullshit statement from no-brains, what's new about that?

I do not think he is even trying to make sense.



-- 
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* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#243088

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-17 17:15 -0700
Message-ID<D220A5AF.5C3EB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243084
On 9/17/15, 4:59 PM, in article mtfk5k$bcd$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
<nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 9/17/2015 7:37 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> mike wrote:
>> 
>>> They just don't want to.  And that's sad.
>> 
>> What's sad is mental midgets wanting to supress the freedom of others,
>> remove other people's choices, so that they can have the restricted
>> choice that they personally want.
> 
> Yes, isn't it something how on one hand they say Linux only has 1.5% of
> the market, and on the other hand they fight tooth and nail against
> Linux?

Who does?

> All those billions in profits Crapple and M$ makes aren't
> enough for their shills?  They won't be happy unless those are the only
> two choices?   And then a certain thing that will remain nameless can
> tell us that's actually abundant choice.

Who wants only two choices?



-- 
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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#243013

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-16 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<D21F3165.5BC32%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243011
On 9/16/15, 2:40 PM, in article d5u5v6Fcn5U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Linux has taken over some of the commercial world and is growing rapidly
>> in the rest.
> 
> Let's correct that a bit.  It has been taken in by some companies for
> specific purposes but very few have switched to linux on the desktop in
> total.
> 
>> As different gov'ts and businesses switch to Linux then the consumer
>> world will grow.
>> 
> That's been the story for 20+ years now.  No indication that it is more
> than a pipe dream.
> 
> 
>> http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/091515/
> ubuntu-linux-based-open-source-os-runs-42-percent-dell-pc
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/pr2d3bx
>> 
>> India is switching over also.
> 
> The story is nice, another 'this is the year of linux' that appear every
> year for almost 20 years now.  When the dust settles this time next year,
> there will be another story similar to it.
> 
> But the 1.5% of marketshare will remain the same.

It has grown slightly over the years... and this is impressive when you
consider the size of the market (number of users) and the fact it has,
overall, grown:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrendNov2007-Present.png>

Roughly 1% in 2010... now about 1.5%. But hardly a major player.

And keep in mind this is not *a* product but many different ones being
combined: Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, PCLOS, and on and on and on. All of those
COMBINED have that tiny sliver of use.



-- 
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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#243036

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-17 07:25 -0500
Message-ID<qkblva5q2kdijbgn18usp0ipivnr5na6r4@4ax.com>
In reply to#243009
> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only you
>>> were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>
>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy with
>> the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux.  And I have
>> no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of the market and is
>> fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>
>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the commercial/
>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important about
>> linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever changing.

Nope.  You are exactly lying, "Lloyd".

Desktop Linux has no troubles that would be solved by less Freedom.
In the typical style of a troll, you claim that the strength of Free
software is a weakness, all based on the shit-brained "logic" of
"Linux has Freedom and Linux has small market share, therefore Freedom
must be hurting Linux".

The real (and rather obvious) reasons why Micro$oft continues to
dominate the desktop, which you disregard as "excuses", have been
explained to you countless times.

Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are a
stupid, lying troll, "Lloyd".

-- 
"The fact is (Microsoft's) SW works for people. Over 90% of the PC
users in the world use it. And it works for them. "  -  "True Linux
advocate" Hadron Quark

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#243041

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-17 12:41 +0000
Message-ID<d5vqoeFbvdqU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#243036
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:25:32 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only
>>>> you were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>>> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>>> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
>>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>>
>>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy
>>> with the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux. 
>>> And I have no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of the
>>> market and is fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>>
>>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the
>>> commercial/
>>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important about
>>> linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever changing.
> 
> Nope.  You are exactly lying, "Lloyd".
> 
> Desktop Linux has no troubles that would be solved by less Freedom. In
> the typical style of a troll, you claim that the strength of Free
> software is a weakness, all based on the shit-brained "logic" of "Linux
> has Freedom and Linux has small market share, therefore Freedom must be
> hurting Linux".
> 
> The real (and rather obvious) reasons why Micro$oft continues to
> dominate the desktop, which you disregard as "excuses", have been
> explained to you countless times.
> 
> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are a stupid,
> lying troll, "Lloyd".

time after time you show no grasp of business at all.  No lies involved.



-- 
Lloyd

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#243162 — Chrisv is a worthless advocate.

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-18 13:15 -0600
SubjectChrisv is a worthless advocate.
Message-ID<XNOdnb7y_Y9L_2HInZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243036
On 09/17/15 06:25, chrisv wrote:
>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only you
>>>> were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>>> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>>> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
>>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>>
>>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy with
>>> the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux.  And I have
>>> no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of the market and is
>>> fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>>
>>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the commercial/
>>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important about
>>> linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever changing.
>
> Nope.  You are exactly lying, "Lloyd".
>
> Desktop Linux has no troubles that would be solved by less Freedom.
> In the typical style of a troll, you claim that the strength of Free
> software is a weakness, all based on the shit-brained "logic" of
> "Linux has Freedom and Linux has small market share, therefore Freedom
> must be hurting Linux".
>
> The real (and rather obvious) reasons why Micro$oft continues to
> dominate the desktop, which you disregard as "excuses", have been
> explained to you countless times.
>
> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are a
> stupid, lying troll, "Lloyd".
>


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#243165 — Re: Chrisv is a worthless advocate.

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-18 19:30 +0000
SubjectRe: Chrisv is a worthless advocate.
Message-ID<d63734F80qdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#243162
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:15:27 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 09/17/15 06:25, chrisv wrote:
>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only
>>>>> you were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>>>> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>>>> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
>>>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>>>
>>>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy
>>>> with the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux. 
>>>> And I have no problem with that.  It gathers a solid 1.5% of the
>>>> market and is fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>>>
>>>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the
>>>> commercial/
>>>> consumer world.  That's because the things you believe important
>>>> about linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever
>>>> changing.
>>
>> Nope.  You are exactly lying, "Lloyd".
>>
>> Desktop Linux has no troubles that would be solved by less Freedom. In
>> the typical style of a troll, you claim that the strength of Free
>> software is a weakness, all based on the shit-brained "logic" of "Linux
>> has Freedom and Linux has small market share, therefore Freedom must be
>> hurting Linux".
>>
One of your dumbest posts chrisv.

The problems for linux garnering acceptance as a commercial/consumer 
desktop OS have so little to do with the tech that it isn't a problem at 
all.

BUT, the problems with linux on the desktop from a marketing/sales 
perspective are huge.  You are just too damned dumb about how sales/
marketing/business works that you cannot see the issues.

And that show why the geeks are kept away from marketing/sales.  Totally 
out of their realm and no expertise in it at all.

>> The real (and rather obvious) reasons why Micro$oft continues to
>> dominate the desktop, which you disregard as "excuses", have been
>> explained to you countless times.
>>
And all have been just bullshit!  Repeating them doesn't make it true.  
Apple has found a market, Google has found a market.  And those markets 
are competing with MS on the desktop.  While MS still has the bulk of the 
market, both Google and Apple know there are profitable smaller niches 
they can and are filling.

Only linux on the desktop providers cannot seem to figger out how to get 
some of that too.  And that is because they are too busy listening to the 
geek 'community' and ignoring the business side of things.

>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are a
>> stupid, lying troll, "Lloyd".
>>
No, that would be you with your skewed view of things.  But it is 
understandable with your very confused state of mind.  I mean, what else 
can it be but confused with your blathering about how great linux is and 
posting about it with Windows.




-- 
Lloyd

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#243161

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-18 13:14 -0600
Message-ID<XNOdnb_y_Y8G_2HInZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243009
On 09/16/15 15:25, Caver1 wrote:
> On 09/16/2015 04:17 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:13:14 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never advocated fewer choices.
>>>
>>> "Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE." - "mike"
>>>
>>>> (remainder snipped, unread)
>>>
>>> I know. You think that you know better than everyone else. If only you
>>> were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
>>> better-off. You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
>>> competing ideas on how to do things best. You would disallow the
>>> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
>>> somewhere, comrad.
>>
>> Time after time, post after post, you demonstrate that you are happy with
>> the hobbyist/developer open and free model for desktop linux. And I have
>> no problem with that. It gathers a solid 1.5% of the market and is
>> fringe enough to fill that tiniest of tech niches.
>>
>> But then don't complain when linux desktop goes nowhere in the
>> commercial/
>> consumer world. That's because the things you believe important about
>> linux desktop are exactly what prevents that from ever changing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Linux has taken over some of the commercial world and is growing rapidly
> in the rest.
> As different gov'ts and businesses switch to Linux then the consumer
> world will grow.
>
> http://thevarguy.com/open-source-application-software-companies/091515/ubuntu-linux-based-open-source-os-runs-42-percent-dell-pc
>

The VAR guy?  He's an expert and has all the stats?

I don't think so.

>
> http://tinyurl.com/pr2d3bx
>
> India is switching over also.
>
India is a communist country, so that it explains a lot right there on 
their choice.

-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#243006

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-16 13:24 -0700
Message-ID<D21F1DFE.5BC11%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243001
On 9/16/15, 1:13 PM, in article unijvatr179a4fa0ct22u3ufqijmg7pko8@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> mike wrote:
> 
>> I never advocated fewer choices.
> 
> "Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE."  -  "mike"

I would say it has far too LITTLE choice.


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#243160

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-18 13:12 -0600
Message-ID<XNOdnbzy_Y-w_2HInZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243001
On 09/16/15 14:13, chrisv wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
>> I never advocated fewer choices.
>
> "Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE."  -  "mike"
>
>> (remainder snipped, unread)
>
> I know.  You think that you know better than everyone else.  If only
> you were dictator, and could allocate resources, the world would be
> better-off.  You would eliminate "wasteful" and "redundant" work on
> competing ideas on how to do things best.  You would disallow the
> offering of anything but one STANDARD Linux, for the good of us all.
>
> Maybe you should consider starting your own communist "utopia"
> somewhere, comrad.
>
Hah!  Go use your communist flag wallpaper, Turdv.
You use windows, and that is your choice, yet you denigrate anyone else 
using windows.  You're a hypocrite.


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#243027

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-09-16 23:38 -0700
Message-ID<YbGdnfgM05GY_WfInZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#242999
On 09/16/15 12:51, mike so wittily quipped:
> On 9/16/2015 7:51 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> mike wrote:
>>
>>> Desktop linux already has WAY too much CHOICE.
>>> How about a little STANDARDIZATION with a side of STABILITY.
>>> ...
>>> We need ONE standard desktop linux so everybody can start on the same
>>> page.
>>> ...
>>> It's not rocket science.  All it takes is leadership and developers
>>> willing to follow the plan instead of forking off on their own.
>>
>> Another mental-midget who thinks that fewer choices will make Linux
>> appeal to more people.  Another ignorant wannabe dictator who thinks
>> that committees and five-year plans can beat the free market.
>>
> You're not paying attention.  Too much effort on denigration and not
> enough on making linux easier for the newbie.
> 
> I never advocated fewer choices.

extremists can't see that

> I advocate ORGANIZED CHOICE with a common starting point
> and STRUCTURED enhancements via GUI, click here to install this,
> and a COMMON repository that's always evaluated and self-consistent.
> PLUS full support for the current chaos for those who think they are gurus.
> Nobody has to give up ANYTHING.
> Just add an option to the install menu, "Make it as hard as possible"
> and the gurus will be unaffected.


usually called 'custom install' or 'advanced settings'

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#243030

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-09-17 06:05 -0400
Message-ID<mte352$h86$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243027
Big Bad Bob wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 09/16/15 12:51, mike so wittily quipped:
>
>> I advocate ORGANIZED CHOICE with a common starting point
>> and STRUCTURED enhancements via GUI, click here to install this,
>> and a COMMON repository that's always evaluated and self-consistent.
>> PLUS full support for the current chaos for those who think they are gurus.
>> Nobody has to give up ANYTHING.

Already provided by Ubuntu, and supported by a very wealthy man.

>> Just add an option to the install menu, "Make it as hard as possible"
>> and the gurus will be unaffected.
>
> usually called 'custom install' or 'advanced settings'

And still unable to break into Microsoft's turf, consumer desktops and
laptops.

"mike" is not only ill-informed and unwisely opinionated, but he is
deliberately ignoring that the PC market, unlike any other, is severely
pathological, and basically controlled by a powerful and unscrupulous
(though slightly less so these days) company.

-- 
The ripest fruit falls first.
		-- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"

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#243031

Frommike <ham789@netzero.net>
Date2015-09-17 03:57 -0700
Message-ID<mte67l$tp2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243030
On 9/17/2015 3:05 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Big Bad Bob wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 09/16/15 12:51, mike so wittily quipped:
>>
>>> I advocate ORGANIZED CHOICE with a common starting point
>>> and STRUCTURED enhancements via GUI, click here to install this,
>>> and a COMMON repository that's always evaluated and self-consistent.
>>> PLUS full support for the current chaos for those who think they are gurus.
>>> Nobody has to give up ANYTHING.
>
> Already provided by Ubuntu, and supported by a very wealthy man.
>
>>> Just add an option to the install menu, "Make it as hard as possible"
>>> and the gurus will be unaffected.
>>
>> usually called 'custom install' or 'advanced settings'

> And still unable to break into Microsoft's turf, consumer desktops and
> laptops.
>
> "mike" is not only ill-informed and unwisely opinionated, but he is
> deliberately ignoring that the PC market, unlike any other, is severely
> pathological, and basically controlled by a powerful and unscrupulous
> (though slightly less so these days) company.
>
Methinks the ignorance is owned by the linux zealots.
Bitching about evil M$ won't get desktop linux anywhere.
The linux "team(s)" need to use the same techniques proven by M$
if they want to invade the desktop market beyond the gurus and 
hobbyists.  A fleet of 100 random distros rowing in all directions
is hardly a threat.
Yes, I know that you don't want to...but I do wish we had a viable
alternative to MS on the desktop.

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#243033 — Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-17 13:33 +0200
SubjectRe: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8
Message-ID<mte8aq$5h3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243031
mike wrote:

> On 9/17/2015 3:05 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Big Bad Bob wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 09/16/15 12:51, mike so wittily quipped:
>>>
>>>> I advocate ORGANIZED CHOICE with a common starting point
>>>> and STRUCTURED enhancements via GUI, click here to install this,
>>>> and a COMMON repository that's always evaluated and self-consistent.
>>>> PLUS full support for the current chaos for those who think they are
>>>> gurus. Nobody has to give up ANYTHING.
>>
>> Already provided by Ubuntu, and supported by a very wealthy man.
>>
>>>> Just add an option to the install menu, "Make it as hard as possible"
>>>> and the gurus will be unaffected.
>>>
>>> usually called 'custom install' or 'advanced settings'
> 
>> And still unable to break into Microsoft's turf, consumer desktops and
>> laptops.
>>
>> "mike" is not only ill-informed and unwisely opinionated, but he is
>> deliberately ignoring that the PC market, unlike any other, is severely
>> pathological, and basically controlled by a powerful and unscrupulous
>> (though slightly less so these days) company.
>>
> Methinks the ignorance is owned by the linux zealots.
> Bitching about evil M$ won't get desktop linux anywhere.
> The linux "team(s)" need to use the same techniques proven by M$
> if they want to invade the desktop market beyond the gurus and
> hobbyists.  A fleet of 100 random distros rowing in all directions
> is hardly a threat.
> Yes, I know that you don't want to...but I do wish we had a viable
> alternative to MS on the desktop.

We have. Since years. And you can stuff your "fleet of 100 random distros". 
It is a bullshit argument, since at most around 10 distros are used for 
deneral desktop usage. The other distros are "special purpose" or distros 
for linux specialists

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#243034 — Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-09-17 07:47 -0400
SubjectRe: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8
Message-ID<mte95q$8fm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243033
Peter Köhlmann wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> mike wrote:
>
>> On 9/17/2015 3:05 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Big Bad Bob wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 09/16/15 12:51, mike so wittily quipped:
>>>>
>>>>> I advocate ORGANIZED CHOICE with a common starting point
>>>>> and STRUCTURED enhancements via GUI, click here to install this,
>>>>> and a COMMON repository that's always evaluated and self-consistent.
>>>>> PLUS full support for the current chaos for those who think they are
>>>>> gurus. Nobody has to give up ANYTHING.
>>>
>>> Already provided by Ubuntu, and supported by a very wealthy man.
>>>
>>>>> Just add an option to the install menu, "Make it as hard as possible"
>>>>> and the gurus will be unaffected.
>>>>
>>>> usually called 'custom install' or 'advanced settings'
>> 
>>> And still unable to break into Microsoft's turf, consumer desktops and
>>> laptops.
>>>
>>> "mike" is not only ill-informed and unwisely opinionated, but he is
>>> deliberately ignoring that the PC market, unlike any other, is severely
>>> pathological, and basically controlled by a powerful and unscrupulous
>>> (though slightly less so these days) company.
>>>
>> Methinks the ignorance is owned by the linux zealots.
>> Bitching about evil M$ won't get desktop linux anywhere.
>> The linux "team(s)" need to use the same techniques proven by M$
>> if they want to invade the desktop market beyond the gurus and
>> hobbyists.  A fleet of 100 random distros rowing in all directions
>> is hardly a threat.
>> Yes, I know that you don't want to...but I do wish we had a viable
>> alternative to MS on the desktop.
>
> We have. Since years. And you can stuff your "fleet of 100 random distros". 
> It is a bullshit argument, since at most around 10 distros are used for 
> deneral desktop usage. The other distros are "special purpose" or distros 
> for linux specialists

"mike" is simply a troll, who lets facts go in one ear and out the other.

As witness his total disregard of my argument concerning the lack of success
of Canonical, who did exactly what he wanted, and still couldn't overcome
the enormous infrastructure revolving around Microsoft products and
services.

He is an idiot.

-- 
Q:	Why did the lone ranger kill Tonto?
A:	He found out what "kimosabe" really means.

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