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| First post | 2025-11-03 17:51 +0000 |
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GOPHER - An Alternative Internet Mr Anderson <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> - 2025-11-03 17:51 +0000
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet Gopher Nerd <gopher@gopher.com> - 2025-11-03 19:02 +0000
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2025-11-03 13:10 -0600
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet Kitty <nite.out@the.club.com> - 2025-11-03 19:25 +0000
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-11-03 23:32 +0000
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-11-05 09:24 +0042
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-11-05 10:31 +0042
Re: GOPHER - An Alternative Internet Stefan Claas <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2025-11-03 20:28 +0100
| From | Mr Anderson <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 17:51 +0000 |
| Subject | GOPHER - An Alternative Internet |
| Message-ID | <1762192273.df8de1b85a21338d29fff1ee70362b0d3ebb71387948e91eaa462c4d8bbc0474@m2usenet.local> |
Remember "GOPHER" Internet?
https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite
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| From | Gopher Nerd <gopher@gopher.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 19:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1762196544.368ffb93eb6cdf3fd0879b8039cfe4c83fd1e30f7db8261dc0c6761b52a7b12d@m2usenet.local> |
| In reply to | #377708 |
2 commands if you're using a linux terminal...
1. sudo apt install gopher
2. gopher gopherproject.org
Yes, it's all text and wonderful...
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| From | Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 13:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20251103131002.47377524@wibble.sysadmininc.com> |
| In reply to | #377708 |
On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:51:13 +0000 Mr Anderson <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> wrote: > Remember "GOPHER" Internet? > > https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite My BBS has a gopher server built in. gopher://gopher.endofthelinebbs.com -- End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
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| From | Kitty <nite.out@the.club.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 19:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1762197954.c820e6f20d6e159bc5126924eca0fe88300287619464b2ace5458765f7985849@m2usenet.local> |
| In reply to | #377710 |
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| From | John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 23:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ebe1p$38coi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #377710 |
Followups trimmed to: news.software.nntp
In news.software.nntp Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:51:13 +0000
> Mr Anderson <"Agent..."@Matrix.org> wrote:
>
>> Remember "GOPHER" Internet?
>>
>> https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite
>
> My BBS has a gopher server built in.
>
> gopher://gopher.endofthelinebbs.com
FWIW, dillo now supports Gemini and Gopher with plugins.
The plugins work fine for me and are easy to install.
Press "home" when inside dillo to get the plugins and
follow the instructions in README.md
Regards,
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[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
- Paraphrasing Star Wars
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| From | yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> |
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| Date | 2025-11-05 09:24 +0042 |
| Message-ID | <877bw4yip2.fsf@tilde.institute> |
| In reply to | #377713 |
John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> wrote:
> Followups trimmed to: news.software.nntp
Why <*.nntp>?
<comp.infosystems> (added it) would have fit better?
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IMO oldstyle plain HTTP looks easier to implement[P] than Gopher, and if
you look for maximised simplicity, look at NEX[N]. Serving HTTP over
Gopher or NEX is possible, and HTML over FTP was common in the WWW's
early days.
Back in the 90s Gopher was supported by the default browsers. Today it
smells like pure nostalgia or separatism. Browsers were invented as
multi protocol network file viewers to make users' access to documents
easier. Now they degraded to single protocol network file viewers and
instead of a revolting user base rejecting HTTP-only browsers, the
answer seems more separatism implemented as lots of single protocol
network file viewers for Gemini, Gopher, Guppy, Mole, Nex, Scorpion,
Scroll, Spartan, and more[S]. This is not what the Web and the
browser(s) were meant to be.
Interoperability created the (Inter)Net.
Bring back multi[M] protocol browsers!
____________
[M]: Chawan, Dillo, Elinks, Links, W3M and even Emacs bring back access
to lots of protocols via the same application, and so does:
SMOLNET PORTAL
<https://portal.mozz.us/>
[N]: NEX looks like pure simplicity ...
NEX INFORMATION CENTER
<https://portal.mozz.us/nex/nightfall.city/nex/info/>
... but there are still some unanswered question:
THE NEX PROTOCOL
<https://portal.mozz.us/nex/mozz.us/nex-protocol-notes.txt>
[P]: Sure implementing HTML is a different calibre, but we should
discuss protocols and text formats independently.
[S]: See ...
From: Michael Lazar <lazar.michael22@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.network.protocols.gemini
Subject: SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:15:22 -0400
Subject: SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
Message-ID: <CAFTy05b=VURe-19V3gsP_EXWSopCHsopRU5EXLqYBnWU7ZP3Yw@mail.gmail.com>
... which was updated by ...
<scorpion://zzo38computer.org/smallweb.txt>
... but I currently cannot access Scorpion. There was a copy of it
in a <comp.infosystem.*> group, but I forgot where I have the
bookmark. :-(
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| From | yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> |
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| Date | 2025-11-05 10:31 +0042 |
| Message-ID | <87zf90x10f.fsf@tilde.institute> |
| In reply to | #377731 |
yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
> [S]: See ...
>
> From: Michael Lazar <lazar.michael22@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: gmane.network.protocols.gemini
> Subject: SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:15:22 -0400
> Subject: SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
> Message-ID: <CAFTy05b=VURe-19V3gsP_EXWSopCHsopRU5EXLqYBnWU7ZP3Yw@mail.gmail.com>
>
> ... which was updated by ...
>
> <scorpion://zzo38computer.org/smallweb.txt>
>
> ... but I currently cannot access Scorpion. There was a copy of
> it in a <comp.infosystem.*> group, but I forgot where I have the
> bookmark. :-(
Well, well, well, ... now that the caffeïne kicks in:
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$ printf 'R scorpion://zzo38computer.org/smallweb.txt\r\n' | nc zzo38computer.org 1517 | head -17
20 19126 text/plain
Here is a list of some other protocols and file formats. It is like the
"SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP" document posted to the mailing list for
Gemini previously, but with many differences.
This document is public domain. You are free to copy this document and to
make changes, e.g. to add things which are missing, change things that are
incorrect, make your own comments about any parts of it, etc. If you have
your own mirrors (possibly with your own changes) then you can tell me in
order that it may be added at the bottom of this document.
Simple explanations have been provided for some protocols. This is not the
full specification, but it should be good enough to access a few files,
such as the specification file (if it also uses that protocol).
Updated at: 2024-09-14
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| From | Stefan Claas <noreply@oc2mx.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 20:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10eavot$1911g$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #377708 |
Mr Anderson wrote: > > Remember "GOPHER" Internet? Yes, and it's successor is the Gemini protocol, which is pretty much used nowadays. See also this Gemini BBS: gemini://bbs.geminispace.org My capsule: gemini://tilde.club/~pollux/ Regards Stefan -- https://tilde.club/~pollux/
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