Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.freeware, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-09-25 04:58 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<d6k2kfFc5eoU6@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(17 earlier) <mu2cr1$i6b$1@news.albasani.net> <d6jss3Fc5eoU1@mid.individual.net> <mu2geq$8nt$1@news.albasani.net> <240920152358107078%nospam@nospam.invalid> <mu2hjf$q1o$1@news.albasani.net>

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On 2015-09-25, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/24/2015 10:58 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <mu2geq$8nt$1@news.albasani.net>, Nobody
>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Now you finally got to the real reason behind all of this, and it has
>>>>> nothing to do with stealing music or Apple's obligation to the record
>>>>> companies.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. It has everything to do with obligations to record companies.
>>>> It was the record companies who forced Apple to create the DRM and
>>>> ensure that the DRM was not circumvented or hacked, which is exactly
>>>> what Real Networks did.
>>>
>>> Real Networks had agreements with the record companies too.  They didn't
>>> pirate music, and any "hacking" was just to get their player onto Apple
>>> devices.
>>
>> the problem is that nobody bought their product, so they got desperate.
>
> If nobody bought their product, Apple would have had nothing to remove. 

It's obvious to me he used the term figuratively. Were there people who
bought Real Networks DRM music? Sure. Was that number significant
compared to Apple's customers? Not a chance. At the time, Apple's
commanded an estimated 82% of music download sales in the United States,
while Real Networks had a paltry 5%. Those of us who were actually
around back then know from experience that Real was already irrelevant
when they pulled this stunt.

>   Are you really unable to see the implications of your own words?

Ask yourself that question some time. ; )

>> it also wast't about getting their player onto apple devices, which
>> they could easily do for ios, but that their *music* had bogus drm.
>
> So one time you're saying Apple doesn't care about pirated music, 
> doesn't care about DRM,

He never said Apple doesn't care about DRM - you added that. Apparently
you are unable to distinguish between pirated music without DRM and
protected music with hacked illegitimate DRM. You seem to think they are
the same thing or something. Of course they aren't. Silly you.

> and the next moment you're calling out "bogus DRM."   You're losing
> track of your double-speak...

Nah, you just can't comprehend plain English, apparently.

>>>>> Apple needed to block a competitor to iTunes.
>>>>
>>>> Real Networks was hardly a competitor to Apple. Apple's iPods and iTunes
>>>> effectively made Real Networks irrelevant, which is why they hacked
>>>> FairPay to make their music appear to be Apple's.
>>>
>>> Why do you keep telling that lie?   RealPlayer wasn't pretending to be
>>> Apple!  They were just trying to get their Player onto the iPod so they
>>> could compete!
>>
>> their music was pretending to have come from apple, which was the
>> entire problem.
>
> Bullshit!  They had there own player, and their own DL files.  They 
> didn't "pretend to have come from Apple."

Wrong. It's *exactly* what they did. They added hacked FairPlay DRM to
their audio files, and even used Apple's name in the DRM metadata of
Real Network music files.

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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-22 12:52 -0400
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-22 13:14 -0400
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-22 18:23 +0000
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 21:32 -0500
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-22 22:48 -0400
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-22 21:28 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-23 04:41 +0000
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 23:53 -0500
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-23 05:00 +0000
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 00:05 -0500
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-22 22:26 -0700
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 04:47 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 08:34 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 22:16 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 01:56 -0400
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 23:16 -0700
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 04:54 -0500
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 11:52 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 18:28 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:50 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 19:21 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:46 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:20 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:22 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 02:28 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 01:06 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 09:14 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 10:04 -0400
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                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-24 03:50 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:32 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 06:39 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-24 08:09 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:33 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 13:32 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-26 17:06 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-27 09:32 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-28 07:36 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 21:53 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 01:25 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-24 03:39 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 01:42 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:31 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 18:31 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 23:54 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 16:58 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:24 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:47 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 15:40 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 12:24 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-26 18:57 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:28 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 18:41 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 18:39 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 19:43 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:06 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-24 23:09 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 23:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 00:22 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 23:35 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 04:22 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And  Removed From Its Chinese App Store Euclides Zoto <euclides_zoto@optimum.net> - 2015-09-28 15:49 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 07:06 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 03:29 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:45 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 05:06 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:26 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 00:01 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-24 17:09 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:11 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-25 04:26 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:27 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:14 -0500
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-23 12:42 +0000
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 09:25 -0500
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-23 18:47 -0500
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:50 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 01:56 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-23 17:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:34 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:37 -0400
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 01:54 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:07 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 02:12 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:15 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 02:20 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:16 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:20 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:29 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:42 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-24 22:16 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-24 02:24 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:32 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-24 01:15 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 22:19 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 20:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:37 -0600
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 20:09 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 15:38 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:37 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 12:01 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-25 20:02 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:19 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 12:03 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:28 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:19 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:28 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 17:26 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:17 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 19:13 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 22:33 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 01:09 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-26 08:06 -0500
                But nobody likes you, Turdv. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 14:53 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:30 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 01:10 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 14:55 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:14 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 12:56 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 15:52 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:45 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-27 00:30 +0200
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 15:50 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-26 23:45 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-28 07:24 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-28 10:24 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-26 23:47 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 21:29 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 01:12 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-26 14:56 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:17 -0400
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-28 12:59 -0600

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