Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.freeware, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-09-27 10:02 -0700
Message-ID	<D22D6F42.5DFDC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 9/27/15, 7:45 AM, in article mu8vb3$n7o$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

> On 2015-09-26 1:32 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/26/15, 9:42 AM, in article mu6hqb$e9k$3@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>> 
>> ... 
>>>>> I could provide you with ANY evidence whatsoever and you would claim
>>>>> that it's not credible. Arguing with mindless zombies like you isn't
>>>>> even worth it.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh?  You COULD provide me with evidence...  but you don't.
>>> 
>>> I already know how this works. I could provide you with University
>>> papers, newspaper articles, blogs and even statistics and you'd just
>>> claim that the source is not credible or that they're insane. It's not
>>> worth the time, especially since you won't bother to read any of it.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, people like you sicken me so *plonk*
>> 
>> Like with many things it depends on how you look at it. Yes, premiums have
>> gone up, on average, under Obamacare. But they were already going up... and
>> faster! So the rate of increase has slowed. *And* people who are at high
>> risk who could not get insurance before are now getting it... so the prices
>> before were being kept artificially low by excluding those who needed it
>> most... then these folks were covered in the ER when they got even worse!
> 
> I'd love to see evidence that the premiums were already going up and
> that Obamacare slowed that down.

<http://onforb.es/1tHZO8e>
    -----
    So, how do we explain the McKinsey findings, which reveal some
    awfully good news when it comes to premium rates, as Obamacare
    begins its second year sign up period beginning November 15?
    ...
    When was the last time we saw insurance premiums experience an
    annual increase of less than 5 percent? I cannot remember such a
    time and doubt that you can either.
    -----

And the fact it has been rising this century. not just in dollar amounts but
as percentage of income : <http://goo.gl/CFGyqZ>

>> Because of this health costs overall have gotten more under control.
>> 
>> Still, there are issues:
>> 
>> * With more people having insurance there are more people seeking care.
> 
> Like here in Canada where a kid will get the sniffles and an idiot
> mother will go to the emergency room because she is convinced that her
> child is dying. That's what happens when a person can go to a hospital
> and not expect a bill after they leave: every small thing suddenly
> becomes an epidemic.

There may be some of that - but also people who really need care.

>> * Insurance companies are still not regulated enough and are screwing
>>   health professionals. While they make record profits many doctors
>>   are barely scraping by. That is insane.
> 
> I'd love to see evidence that the insurance companies are the ones doing
> the screwing as it relates to doctors.

They are the ones setting the prices they are willing to pay for any given
procedure. They are the ones making record profits.



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  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:41 -0400
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 08:52 -0700
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        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 09:10 -0700
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 12:32 -0400
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            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 14:17 -0400
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