Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw

From	Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: iCultist cites serious OS X flaw
Date	2015-10-11 02:09 +0200
Organization	albasani.net
Message-ID	<20151011020959.5f613459@maxa-pc> (permalink)
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:07:29 -0400
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <20151011015908.4d91c8e3@maxa-pc>, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > > unix does not deal well when it runs out of disk space.
> > > > > > > it's a serious bug that will never be fixed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You seem to have conveniently forgotten Mac OS X is
> > > > > > supposed to be certified UNIX.
> > > > > 
> > > > > i did not forget at all. macs are subject to this bug too.
> > > > 
> > > > Can you find example of OS that deals with this problem well and
> > > > how it does it?
> > > 
> > > classic mac os.
> > > 
> > > if you try to write a file that's larger than the available
> > > space, you get a disk full error. that's it. no big deal. the
> > > system and the running apps keep on going, without crashing or
> > > losing data. 
> > 
> > Hm, on Linux and OSX ENOSPC is error on write syscall that cannot
> > fulfill ...
> > I guess same as on any other Unix... 
> > 
> > > 
> > > at that point, you either make some space for the file or connect
> > > another hard drive and save it there.
> > 
> > Same on Linux... and OSX...
> 
> nope. 
> 
> if a drive fills on unix, it crashes. 
> 
> at least apple starts to put up warnings early so that the user can
> take steps to avoid it. 
> 
> other unixes just go boom. 
> 
> classic mac os does not care if the disk is full. it can easily run
> with 0k free.

It depends on application. Error is there, therefore application can
act accordingly...

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