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| Started by | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| First post | 2020-09-06 03:27 +0000 |
| Last post | 2020-09-07 04:46 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 145 — 14 participants |
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More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 03:27 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-05 20:30 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 03:59 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:20 -0700
Zombies are lighting each other on fire. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-05 23:09 -0700
Re: Zombies are lighting each other on fire. Phantom_View <pv@PhantomView114.net> - 2020-09-06 21:31 -0400
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 06:46 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 01:04 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 08:53 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-09-06 11:04 +0100
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 03:33 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 04:11 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 04:42 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 04:49 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 19:24 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-09-06 22:06 +0100
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 15:00 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 23:31 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 17:44 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 16:53 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 17:13 -0700
White man's burden. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-06 05:10 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 19:08 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 13:36 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 17:16 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-09-06 22:08 +0100
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 14:47 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 19:08 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 06:12 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 15:18 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 17:15 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 16:56 -0700
Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-06 18:43 -0700
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-09-10 07:07 -0500
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-09-10 13:14 +0100
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-09-10 08:23 -0500
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 11:24 -0700
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-10 15:07 -0600
Re: Scott Doty: No signal, No virtue. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 14:11 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 06:10 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 00:23 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 00:19 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 04:06 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-05 23:11 -0500
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:22 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 00:24 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 01:10 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 00:20 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 06:15 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 21:17 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 00:22 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 19:12 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-06 14:20 -0500
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 13:37 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 12:41 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 13:49 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion sgl@fakey.invalid (Speckled Green Lotus) - 2020-09-06 22:15 +0100
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 13:37 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 23:05 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 17:33 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 17:41 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 00:46 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 18:08 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 19:51 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 16:45 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-06 23:53 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 17:09 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 00:27 +0000
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 17:44 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 19:43 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 19:32 -0700
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-06 21:52 -0500
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 21:27 -0700
JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 22:24 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 06:23 +0000
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 01:51 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 23:46 -0700
MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-07 01:47 -0500
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 23:57 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 07:07 -0600
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2020-09-10 10:30 -0400
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 08:09 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-09-10 11:06 -0500
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-10 11:09 -0600
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 07:24 +0000
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-07 02:28 -0500
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 07:34 +0000
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 07:08 -0600
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 08:52 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-07 00:43 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-07 00:52 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2020-09-10 10:53 -0400
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 08:11 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2020-09-10 13:07 -0400
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 11:01 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 02:31 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-07 04:41 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 09:06 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-07 15:15 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 17:28 -0700
Re: MORE PARTICIPATION AWARDS % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 18:04 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 02:29 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 06:52 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 08:49 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 10:37 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:15 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:28 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 12:42 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:45 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 13:15 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 12:17 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 13:34 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 12:44 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-07 14:48 -0500
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 14:16 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 13:23 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 14:29 -0600
Re: ? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ? JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! ? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ?? Snowflake ? (Was: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD!) Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 14:19 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 13:15 -0600
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 12:17 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:55 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 12:07 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:13 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:31 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:44 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 11:53 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 12:06 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 13:56 -0700
Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! ❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄❄ Snowflake ❄ (Was: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD!) Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-07 16:01 -0500
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 14:32 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 17:29 -0700
Re: JANITHOR SCORES A CHECKY (tm) AWARD! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 18:05 -0700
Big Chief Ugh-Amugh-Ugh. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-08 00:10 -0700
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-09-07 06:16 +0000
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2020-09-07 01:31 -0500
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 23:48 -0700
More Parataxic Distortion - Snowfakey say "derp?" sgl@fakey.invalid (Speckled Green Lotus) - 2020-09-07 12:52 +0100
Re: ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ????Re: ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-07 07:03 -0600
Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫Re: 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> 🔫🔫🔫⏰ POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ⏰🔫🔫🔫 More Parataxic Distortion Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2020-09-06 23:39 -0700
Re: ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ????Re: ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> ???? POTENTIAL CLOCK TOWER SHOOTER ALERT! ???? More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-07 02:34 -0700
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> - 2020-09-06 19:36 -0600
Re: More Parataxic Distortion Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-09-06 14:51 -0700
Michael Reinoehl, June 16th, 2020. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-06 18:29 -0700
Michael Reinoehl took down a most evil man. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2020-09-07 04:46 -0700
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| From | Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2020-09-06 06:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <sck9lflggdjebg6ctdec422duarrivg2si@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #417052 |
On 6 Sep 2020 06:46:35 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:20:34 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >> Checkmate. >> >> On 6 Sep 2020 03:59:35 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, >> which >> was duly noted and recorded: >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: >>> >>> > x-no-archive: yes >>> > >>> > On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >>> >> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges- >in- >>> >> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >>> >> >>> >> NPR Article: >>> >> >>> >> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>> >> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >>> >> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >>> >> >>> >> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>> >> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing >>> >> to restore law and order, and he touted the administration's >>> >> response. >>> >> >>> >> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >>> >> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >>> >> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in >>> >> Portland specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has >>> >> charged about 74 or 75 individuals in Portland there with different >>> >> federal crimes." >>> >> >>> >> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows >>> >> that the majority of the charges are for what could be considered >>> >> minor offenses. >>> >> >>> >> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>> >> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland >>> >> unrest. >>> >> >>> >> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>> >> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases >>> >> are not felonies. >>> >> >>> >> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>> >> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >>> >> >>> >> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>> >> class C misdemeanors. >>> >> >>> >> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable >>> >> by no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people >>> >> face class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply >>> >> with a lawful order. >>> >> >>> >> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >>> >> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >>> >> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >>> >> >>> >> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>> >> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. >>> >> Such a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer >>> >> or pretending to throw an object. >>> >> >>> >> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year >>> >> in prison. >>> >> >>> >> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>> >> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >>> >> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >>> >> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a >>> >> selective manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >>> >> >>> >> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying >>> >> to get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment >>> >> and the right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage >>> >> unjustified violence against persons or property." >>> >> >>> >> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that >>> >> there have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be >>> >> prosecuted. >>> >> >>> >> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been >>> >> nonviolent, but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown >>> >> projectiles and, in some instances, >>> >> attacked federal officers. >>> >> >>> >> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >>> >> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was >>> >> a battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal >>> >> agents guarding the facility. >>> >> >>> >> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>> >> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last >>> >> week, >>> >> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >>> >> >>> >> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>> >> charges. One defendant, for example, >>> >> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >>> >> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>> >> marshal with a baseball bat. >>> >> >>> >> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly >>> >> blamed what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa >>> >> movement for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >>> >> >>> >> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>> >> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod >>> >> for the violence," >>> >> Barr told CNN this week. >>> >> >>> >> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >>> >> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are >>> >> making before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >>> >> >>> >> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>> >> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >>> >> >>> >> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent >>> >> agitators. For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was >>> >> handed a firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw >>> >> it. >>> >> >>> >> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>> >> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >>> >> >>> >> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >>> >> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >>> >> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >>> >> >>> >> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law >>> >> enforcement officers tried to arrest him. >>> >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> >> >>> >> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >>> >> >>> >> "We report, you decide." >>> > >>> > Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing >>> > groups or police infiltrating the protesters. >>> >>> So does your definition of violence include things like harsh language? >> >> It certainly would include an avowed "Antifa all the way" asshole >> shooting another man in cold blood without provocation... but you claim >> Antifa isn't "violent". It looks like you lied. > >"said he supports the anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it" >according to the article you just quoted. > >Recently I posted that things had changed: it is now that most violence >isn't coming from the anti-fascist movement, as see in the court >documents reported on above. > >The "liars" are Barr and Trump: they need a boogieman. > >Shame on you for failing to be skeptical YET AGAIN. When will you learn? I knew it wouldn't take long before you morons blamed Trump for the riots.
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| From | Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 00:23 -0700 |
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x-no-archive: yes On 9/5/2020 9:20 PM, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate. > > On 6 Sep 2020 03:59:35 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which > was duly noted and recorded: > > >> >> On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: >> >>> x-no-archive: yes >>> >>> On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >>>> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >>>> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >>>> >>>> NPR Article: >>>> >>>> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>>> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >>>> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >>>> >>>> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>>> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >>>> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >>>> >>>> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >>>> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >>>> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >>>> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >>>> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >>>> >>>> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >>>> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >>>> offenses. >>>> >>>> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>>> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >>>> >>>> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>>> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >>>> not felonies. >>>> >>>> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>>> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >>>> >>>> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>>> class C misdemeanors. >>>> >>>> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >>>> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >>>> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >>>> lawful order. >>>> >>>> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >>>> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >>>> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >>>> >>>> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>>> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >>>> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >>>> pretending to throw an object. >>>> >>>> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >>>> prison. >>>> >>>> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>>> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >>>> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >>>> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >>>> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >>>> >>>> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >>>> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >>>> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >>>> violence against persons or property." >>>> >>>> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >>>> have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. >>>> >>>> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >>>> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >>>> instances, >>>> attacked federal officers. >>>> >>>> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >>>> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a >>>> battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents >>>> guarding the facility. >>>> >>>> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>>> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >>>> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >>>> >>>> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>>> charges. One defendant, for example, >>>> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >>>> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>>> marshal with a baseball bat. >>>> >>>> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >>>> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >>>> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >>>> >>>> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>>> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >>>> the violence," >>>> Barr told CNN this week. >>>> >>>> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >>>> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making >>>> before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >>>> >>>> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>>> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >>>> >>>> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >>>> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >>>> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >>>> >>>> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>>> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >>>> >>>> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >>>> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >>>> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >>>> >>>> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >>>> officers tried to arrest him. >>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>>> >>>> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >>>> >>>> "We report, you decide." >>> >>> Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups >>> or police infiltrating the protesters. >> >> So does your definition of violence include things like harsh language? > > It certainly would include an avowed "Antifa all the way" asshole shooting > another man in cold blood without provocation... but you claim Antifa > isn't "violent". It looks like you lied. It was a policeman dressed up as antifa who did it. Ask Nuts, he's smart.
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| From | Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 00:19 -0700 |
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x-no-archive: yes On 9/5/2020 8:59 PM, vallor wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: > >> x-no-archive: yes >> >> On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >>> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >>> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >>> >>> NPR Article: >>> >>> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >>> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >>> >>> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >>> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >>> >>> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >>> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >>> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >>> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >>> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >>> >>> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >>> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >>> offenses. >>> >>> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >>> >>> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >>> not felonies. >>> >>> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >>> >>> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>> class C misdemeanors. >>> >>> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >>> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >>> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >>> lawful order. >>> >>> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >>> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >>> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >>> >>> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >>> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >>> pretending to throw an object. >>> >>> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >>> prison. >>> >>> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >>> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >>> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >>> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >>> >>> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >>> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >>> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >>> violence against persons or property." >>> >>> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >>> have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. >>> >>> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >>> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >>> instances, >>> attacked federal officers. >>> >>> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >>> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a >>> battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents >>> guarding the facility. >>> >>> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >>> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >>> >>> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>> charges. One defendant, for example, >>> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >>> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>> marshal with a baseball bat. >>> >>> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >>> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >>> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >>> >>> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >>> the violence," >>> Barr told CNN this week. >>> >>> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >>> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making >>> before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >>> >>> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >>> >>> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >>> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >>> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >>> >>> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >>> >>> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >>> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >>> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >>> >>> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >>> officers tried to arrest him. >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> >>> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >>> >>> "We report, you decide." >> >> Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups >> or police infiltrating the protesters. > > So does your definition of violence include things like harsh language? We all know what violence is, why would you ask such a silly question.
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On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > > On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >> >> NPR Article: >> >> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >> >> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >> >> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >> >> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >> offenses. >> >> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >> >> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >> not felonies. >> >> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >> >> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >> class C misdemeanors. >> >> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >> lawful order. >> >> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >> >> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >> pretending to throw an object. >> >> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >> prison. >> >> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >> >> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >> violence against persons or property." >> >> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >> have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. >> >> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >> instances, >> attacked federal officers. >> >> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a >> battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents >> guarding the facility. >> >> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >> >> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >> charges. One defendant, for example, >> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >> marshal with a baseball bat. >> >> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >> >> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >> the violence," >> Barr told CNN this week. >> >> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making >> before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >> >> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >> >> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >> >> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >> >> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >> >> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >> officers tried to arrest him. >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >> >> "We report, you decide." > > Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups > or police infiltrating the protesters. At this later date, I don't think it's all of it...just most of it. Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of incitement. Had to deal with that crap with Occupy... -- -v https://theproblemisextremism.org
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On 6 Sep 2020 04:06:25 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <hrj5i0Fd778U7@mid.individual.net>: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: > > > x-no-archive: derp! On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: > > > https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- > > > portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors NPR Article: In President > > > Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under siege by violent > > > radical leftists. He has suggested that only the strong hand of federal > > > law enforcement can save it. On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland > > > Security Secretary Chad Wolf admonished state and local leaders there > > > and elsewhere for failing to restore law and order, and he touted the > > > administration's response. "We've seen about 300 arrests across this > > > country regarding civil unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say > > > criminal protesting, criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those > > > have been in Portland specifically, and I know the Department of Justice > > > has charged about 74 or 75 individuals in Portland there with different > > > federal crimes." But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in > > > Portland shows that the majority of the charges are for what could be > > > considered minor offenses. As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office > > > for Oregon had charges outstanding against 74 people in connection with > > > the Portland unrest. Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and > > > 42 are for misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total > > > charged cases are not felonies. "A citation is the least serious of a > > > charge, it's really more of a ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal > > > public defender for Oregon. The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly > > > divided between class A and class C misdemeanors. A class C misdemeanor > > > is one step above a citation and is punishable by no more than one > > > month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face class C misdemeanor > > > charges for allegedly failing to comply with a lawful order. "That > > > might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the > > > sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse > > > or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. The class A > > > misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an alleged > > > assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such a case > > > could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or pretending to > > > throw an object. These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more > > > than one year in prison. Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean > > > at Lewis and Clark Law School in Portland, said the federal > > > government's decision to arrest and charge people for offenses like > > > failing to comply with a lawful order suggests that law enforcement > > > officer were acting in a selective manner "to control and chill > > > expression and activity." "There should be a clear dividing line > > > between people who are trying to get their voices heard, fully > > > protected by the First Amendment and the right to assemble," he said, > > > "and people that engage unjustified violence against persons or > > > property." Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made > > > clear that there have been people in Portland doing exactly that — > > > should be prosecuted. The vast majority of the protesters in the city > > > have been nonviolent, but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown > > > projectiles and, in some instances, attacked federal officers. After > > > Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, the > > > area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle zone > > > at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding the > > > facility. Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges > > > against those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late > > > last week, according to NPR's review of the court papers. Those are > > > primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson charges. One > > > defendant, for example, is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal > > > with a hammer, while another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. marshal > > > with a baseball bat. The president and Attorney General William Barr > > > have repeatedly blamed what they call left-wing radicals and members of > > > the antifa movement for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. "I've > > > talked to every police chief in every city where there's been major > > > violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for the > > > violence," Barr told CNN this week. "They are flying around the country > > > We know people who are flying around the country," Barr said. "We see > > > some purchases they are making before the riots of weapons to use in > > > those riots." None of the court documents from federal cases in > > > Portland reference antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement > > > or conspiracy. In a few of the case files, there are references to > > > apparent agitators. For instance, one defendant told authorities that > > > he was handed a firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to > > > throw it. But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court > > > record in Portland at this point to support the attorney general's > > > assertions. In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting > > > a right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the > > > anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. The man, Michael > > > Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement officers tried > > > to arrest him. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. > > > "We report, you decide." > > Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups > > or police infiltrating the protesters. > > At this later date, I don't think it's all of it...just most of it. > > Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of > incitement. > > Had to deal with that crap with Occupy... private corporations like Pinkerton now have full american personhood and protections under the bill of rts, unlike certain muslim marxist presidents born in nambia. "4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast... -- [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION] THIS SPACE FOR RENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA "Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) "Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan) - "You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor STOP! (janithor time.): i hope his sails weren't torn asunder with words on a screen, or somesuch, but also i hope that his pain is not as bad as the murderguy who got hit with a skateboard. - anynonymous - "If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode - "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com> - Golden Killfile, June 2005 KOTM, November 2006 Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007 Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006 Busted Urinal Award, April 2007 Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008 Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007 AUK Mascot, September 2007 Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016
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| From | Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-05 21:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <deudn0.cvh.19.102@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #417041 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate. On 6 Sep 2020 04:06:25 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which was duly noted and recorded: > Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of > incitement. > Dodge and weave... change the subject. -- Checkmate ® Copyright © 2020 all rights reserved https://youtu.be/wT-8Dm1VThc *************************************************** "I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed..." --Vallor Message-ID: <hqhbp9F9i1dU4@mid.individual.net> *************************************************** "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me> *************************************************** AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore) Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore) Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll) Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012 Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Usenet Shot-Caller In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017
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| From | Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 00:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rj22rf$acp$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #417046 |
x-no-archive: yes On 9/5/2020 9:22 PM, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate. > > On 6 Sep 2020 04:06:25 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which > was duly noted and recorded: > > >> Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of >> incitement. >> > > Dodge and weave... change the subject. Not to mention we're not talking about history, we're talking about now.
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| From | Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 01:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <deur36.cvh.19.105@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #417061 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate. On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 00:24:29 -0700 Janithor put forth the following notion, which was duly noted and recorded: > > x-no-archive: yes > > On 9/5/2020 9:22 PM, Checkmate wrote: > > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > > Checkmate. > > > > On 6 Sep 2020 04:06:25 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which > > was duly noted and recorded: > > > > > >> Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of > >> incitement. > >> > > > > Dodge and weave... change the subject. > > Not to mention we're not talking about history, we're talking about now. Expect another non sequitur any minute. -- Checkmate ® Copyright © 2020 all rights reserved https://youtu.be/wT-8Dm1VThc *************************************************** "I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed..." --Vallor Message-ID: <hqhbp9F9i1dU4@mid.individual.net> *************************************************** "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me> *************************************************** AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore) Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore) Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll) Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012 Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Usenet Shot-Caller In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017
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| From | Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 00:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rj22jl$acp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #417041 |
x-no-archive: yes On 9/5/2020 9:06 PM, vallor wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: > >> x-no-archive: yes >> >> On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >>> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >>> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >>> >>> NPR Article: >>> >>> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >>> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >>> >>> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >>> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >>> >>> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >>> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >>> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >>> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >>> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >>> >>> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >>> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >>> offenses. >>> >>> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >>> >>> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >>> not felonies. >>> >>> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >>> >>> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>> class C misdemeanors. >>> >>> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >>> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >>> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >>> lawful order. >>> >>> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >>> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >>> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >>> >>> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >>> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >>> pretending to throw an object. >>> >>> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >>> prison. >>> >>> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >>> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >>> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >>> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >>> >>> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >>> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >>> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >>> violence against persons or property." >>> >>> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >>> have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. >>> >>> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >>> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >>> instances, >>> attacked federal officers. >>> >>> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >>> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a >>> battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents >>> guarding the facility. >>> >>> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >>> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >>> >>> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>> charges. One defendant, for example, >>> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >>> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>> marshal with a baseball bat. >>> >>> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >>> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >>> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >>> >>> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >>> the violence," >>> Barr told CNN this week. >>> >>> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >>> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making >>> before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >>> >>> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >>> >>> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >>> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >>> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >>> >>> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >>> >>> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >>> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >>> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >>> >>> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >>> officers tried to arrest him. >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> >>> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >>> >>> "We report, you decide." >> >> Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups >> or police infiltrating the protesters. > > At this later date, I don't think it's all of it...just most of it. > > Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of > incitement. > > Had to deal with that crap with Occupy... uh huh
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| From | Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 06:15 -0600 |
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On 6 Sep 2020 04:06:25 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 20:30:54 -0700, Janithor wrote: > >> x-no-archive: yes >> >> On 9/5/2020 8:27 PM, vallor wrote: >>> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >>> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >>> >>> NPR Article: >>> >>> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >>> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >>> >>> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >>> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >>> >>> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil >>> unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, >>> criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >>> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >>> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >>> >>> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >>> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >>> offenses. >>> >>> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >>> >>> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >>> not felonies. >>> >>> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >>> >>> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>> class C misdemeanors. >>> >>> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >>> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >>> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >>> lawful order. >>> >>> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on >>> the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't >>> disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >>> >>> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >>> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >>> pretending to throw an object. >>> >>> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >>> prison. >>> >>> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >>> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >>> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >>> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >>> >>> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >>> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >>> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >>> violence against persons or property." >>> >>> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >>> have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. >>> >>> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >>> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >>> instances, >>> attacked federal officers. >>> >>> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in >>> July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a >>> battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents >>> guarding the facility. >>> >>> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >>> according to NPR's review of the court papers. >>> >>> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>> charges. One defendant, for example, >>> is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while >>> another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>> marshal with a baseball bat. >>> >>> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >>> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >>> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >>> >>> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >>> the violence," >>> Barr told CNN this week. >>> >>> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying >>> around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making >>> before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >>> >>> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >>> >>> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >>> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >>> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >>> >>> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >>> >>> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a >>> right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the >>> anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. >>> >>> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >>> officers tried to arrest him. >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> >>> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >>> >>> "We report, you decide." >> >> Mixed Nuts says ALL the violence is caused by either right-wing groups >> or police infiltrating the protesters. > >At this later date, I don't think it's all of it...just most of it. > >Look up "Pinkerton Detective Agency" for an example of the history of >incitement. Which has nothing to do with today. > >Had to deal with that crap with Occupy...
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| From | Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-05 21:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <deudda.cvh.19.100@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #417028 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate. On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which was duly noted and recorded: > Portland, Ore., is > a city under siege by violent radical leftists. > That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort of violent, but let's just gloss over that. -- Checkmate ® Copyright © 2020 all rights reserved https://youtu.be/wT-8Dm1VThc *************************************************** "I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed..." --Vallor Message-ID: <hqhbp9F9i1dU4@mid.individual.net> *************************************************** "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me> *************************************************** AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore) Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore) Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll) Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012 Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Usenet Shot-Caller In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017
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| From | Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 00:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <rj22ob$acp$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #417043 |
x-no-archive: yes On 9/5/2020 9:17 PM, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate. > > On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which > was duly noted and recorded: > > >> Portland, Ore., is >> a city under siege by violent radical leftists. >> > > That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort of > violent, but let's just gloss over that. It's all done by white-wing infiltrators and the popo. The far radical left never engages in violence, you know this.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hrkql9Fo2f3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #417043 |
On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:04 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate. > > On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, > which > was duly noted and recorded: > > >> Portland, Ore., is >> a city under siege by violent radical leftists. >> >> > That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort > of violent, but let's just gloss over that. Quoting out of context again, like the lying sack of shit the Checkyloser is. As I just said in a separate post, Checkyloser is not a reliable correspondent (to put it kindly). Let's have another rerun of the article that has Checkyloser all atwitter: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors NPR Article: In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil unrest and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, criminal rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor offenses. As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are not felonies. "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and class C misdemeanors. A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a lawful order. "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or pretending to throw an object. These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in prison. Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective manner "to control and chill expression and activity." "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified violence against persons or property." Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some instances, attacked federal officers. After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding the facility. Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, according to NPR's review of the court papers. Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson charges. One defendant, for example, is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while another allegedly struck a deputy U.S. marshal with a baseball bat. The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for the violence," Barr told CNN this week. "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying around the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making before the riots of weapons to use in those riots." None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a right-wing activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the anti-fascist movement but is not a member of it. The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement officers tried to arrest him. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. "We report, you decide." -- -v https://theproblemisextremism.org
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| From | Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 14:20 -0500 |
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On 6 Sep 2020 19:12:41 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <hrkql9Fo2f3U2@mid.individual.net>: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:04 -0700, 💩 wrote: > > > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > > 💩. On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following > > notion, which was duly noted and recorded: > > > Portland, Ore., is a city under siege by violent radical leftists. > > That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort > > of violent, but let's just gloss over that. > > Quoting out of context again, like the lying sack of shit the > Checkyloser is. > > As I just said in a separate post, Checkyloser is not a reliable > correspondent (to put it kindly). > > Let's have another rerun of the article that has Checkyloser all > atwitter: > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- > portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors > > NPR Article: > > In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under > siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the > strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. > > On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf > admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to > restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. > > "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil unrest > and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, criminal > rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland > specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 > or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." > > But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that > the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor > offenses. > > As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges > outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. > > Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for > misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are > not felonies. > > "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a > ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. > > The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and > class C misdemeanors. > > A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by > no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face > class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a > lawful order. > > "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the > sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse > or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. > > The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an > alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such > a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or > pretending to throw an object. > > These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in > prison. > > Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law > School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest > and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful > order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective > manner "to control and chill expression and activity." > > "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to > get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the > right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified > violence against persons or property." > > Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that > there have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be > prosecuted. > > The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, > but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some > instances, attacked federal officers. > > After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, > the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle > zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding > the facility. > > Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against > those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last > week, according to NPR's review of the court papers. > > Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson > charges. One defendant, for example, is accused of hitting a deputy > U.S. marshal with a hammer, while another allegedly struck a deputy > U.S. marshal with a baseball bat. > > The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed > what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement > for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. > > "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been > major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for > the violence," Barr told CNN this week. > > "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying around > the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making before > the riots of weapons to use in those riots." > > None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference > antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. > > In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. > For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a > firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. > > But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in > Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. > > In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a right-wing > activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the anti-fascist > movement but is not a member of it. > > The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement > officers tried to arrest him. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. > > "We report, you decide." > > > a couple dozen ppl calling cops mean names and jaywalking is how america ends, they're saying. <geegle> "4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast... -- [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION] THIS SPACE FOR RENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA "Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) "Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan) - "You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor STOP! (janithor time.): i hope his sails weren't torn asunder with words on a screen, or somesuch, but also i hope that his pain is not as bad as the murderguy who got hit with a skateboard. - anynonymous - "If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode - "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com> - Golden Killfile, June 2005 KOTM, November 2006 Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007 Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006 Busted Urinal Award, April 2007 Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008 Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007 AUK Mascot, September 2007 Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016
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| From | Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 13:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ujealft59a1v3enlufqqf6rpi2cstutfsi@4ax.com> |
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:20:19 -0500, Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ?? <root@127.0.0.1> wrote: >On 6 Sep 2020 19:12:41 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> >determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently >decided to freely share it with us in ><hrkql9Fo2f3U2@mid.individual.net>: > >> On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:04 -0700, ? wrote: >> >> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >> > ?. On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following >> > notion, which was duly noted and recorded: >> > > Portland, Ore., is a city under siege by violent radical leftists. >> > That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort >> > of violent, but let's just gloss over that. >> >> Quoting out of context again, like the lying sack of shit the >> Checkyloser is. >> >> As I just said in a separate post, Checkyloser is not a reliable >> correspondent (to put it kindly). >> >> Let's have another rerun of the article that has Checkyloser all >> atwitter: >> >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >> portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >> >> NPR Article: >> >> In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >> siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the >> strong hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >> >> On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >> admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >> restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >> >> "We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil unrest >> and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, criminal >> rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >> specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >> or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >> >> But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >> the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >> offenses. >> >> As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >> outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >> >> Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >> misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >> not felonies. >> >> "A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >> ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >> >> The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >> class C misdemeanors. >> >> A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >> no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >> class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >> lawful order. >> >> "That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the >> sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse >> or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >> >> The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >> alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >> a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >> pretending to throw an object. >> >> These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >> prison. >> >> Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >> School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest >> and charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful >> order suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective >> manner "to control and chill expression and activity." >> >> "There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >> get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >> right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >> violence against persons or property." >> >> Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that >> there have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be >> prosecuted. >> >> The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >> but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >> instances, attacked federal officers. >> >> After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, >> the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle >> zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding >> the facility. >> >> Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >> those they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last >> week, according to NPR's review of the court papers. >> >> Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >> charges. One defendant, for example, is accused of hitting a deputy >> U.S. marshal with a hammer, while another allegedly struck a deputy >> U.S. marshal with a baseball bat. >> >> The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >> what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement >> for the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >> >> "I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >> major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >> the violence," Barr told CNN this week. >> >> "They are flying around the country We know people who are flying around >> the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making before >> the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >> >> None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >> antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >> >> In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >> For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >> firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >> >> But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >> Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >> >> In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a right-wing >> activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the anti-fascist >> movement but is not a member of it. >> >> The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >> officers tried to arrest him. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >> >> "We report, you decide." >> >> >> > >a couple dozen ppl calling cops mean names and jaywalking is how america ends, they're saying. > ><geegle> > >"4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast... That's only what YOU see knucklehead.
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| From | Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 12:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cpealfpk5nnc63nsncr7i01tjrd9m31ehm@4ax.com> |
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:20:19 -0500, Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ?? <root@127.0.0.1> wrote: >a couple dozen ppl calling cops mean names and jaywalking is how america ends, they're saying. Yet you go ape shit bananas when you think someone is calling you mean names. But don't worry, we know how to handle these looting, left-wing fucktards. Carry on.
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| From | Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 13:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <0afalf97a493toc8d9al5r4idj6du14u30@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #417178 |
On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 12:41:50 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:20:19 -0500, Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ?? ><root@127.0.0.1> wrote: > >>a couple dozen ppl calling cops mean names and jaywalking is how america ends, they're saying. > >Yet you go ape shit bananas when you think someone is calling you mean >names. > >But don't worry, we know how to handle these looting, left-wing >fucktards. > >Carry on. They have a surprise coming oh around the 26th I think.
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| From | sgl@fakey.invalid (Speckled Green Lotus) |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 22:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1owbxju.x5rw2w14elct1N%sgl@fakey.invalid> |
| In reply to | #417163 |
Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ?? <root@127.0.0.1> wrote: > a couple dozen ppl calling cops mean names and jaywalking > is how america ends, they're saying. > > <geegle> > I like you, you're silly. ~giggle!~ Do you like Bugs Bunny? Daffy Duck? They make me laugh too. > > "4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast... One rock might; try making a rational statement and see. -- Speckled Green Lotus
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| Date | 2020-09-06 13:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <tiealflurm7vmb9n0loo7n80e55opbunjl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #417161 |
On 6 Sep 2020 19:12:41 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:04 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >> Checkmate. >> >> On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, >> which >> was duly noted and recorded: >> >> >>> Portland, Ore., is >>> a city under siege by violent radical leftists. >>> >>> >> That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS sort >> of violent, but let's just gloss over that. > >Quoting out of context again, like the lying sack of shit the Checkyloser >is. > >As I just said in a separate post, Checkyloser is not a reliable >correspondent (to put it kindly). > >Let's have another rerun of the article that has Checkyloser all atwitter: > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors > >NPR Article: > >In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under siege >by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the strong hand of >federal law enforcement can save it. > >On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. > >"We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil unrest >and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, criminal >rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 or >75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." > >But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that the >majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor offenses. > >As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. > >Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for misdemeanors, >meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are not felonies. > >"A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. > >The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and class >C misdemeanors. > >A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by no >more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face class C >misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a lawful order. > >"That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the >sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse or >they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. > >The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such a >case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or pretending >to throw an object. > >These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >prison. > >Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest and >charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful order >suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective manner >"to control and chill expression and activity." > >"There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified violence >against persons or property." > >Kanter said those who engage in violence — and he made clear that there >have been people in Portland doing exactly that — should be prosecuted. > >The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, but >some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >instances, >attacked federal officers. > >After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, >the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle >zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding the >facility. > >Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against those >they say engaged in the violence — 20 cases as of late last week, >according to NPR's review of the court papers. > >Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson charges. >One defendant, for example, >is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while another >allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >marshal with a baseball bat. > >The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement for >the violence in Portland and elsewhere. > >"I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been major >violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for the >violence," >Barr told CNN this week. > >"They are flying around the country We know people who are flying around >the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making before the >riots of weapons to use in those riots." > >None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. > >In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a firework >by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. > >But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. > >In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a right-wing >activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the anti-fascist >movement but is not a member of it. > >The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >officers tried to arrest him. > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. > >"We report, you decide." You support rapists and looters.
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| Date | 2020-09-06 23:05 +0000 |
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On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 13:37:18 -0600, Skeeter wrote: > On 6 Sep 2020 19:12:41 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > >>On Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:04 -0700, Checkmate wrote: >> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts >>> by Checkmate. >>> >>> On 6 Sep 2020 03:27:30 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, >>> which >>> was duly noted and recorded: >>> >>> >>>> Portland, Ore., is >>>> a city under siege by violent radical leftists. >>>> >>>> >>> That much is true. Burning down buildings and murdering people IS >>> sort of violent, but let's just gloss over that. >> >>Quoting out of context again, like the lying sack of shit the >>Checkyloser is. >> >>As I just said in a separate post, Checkyloser is not a reliable >>correspondent (to put it kindly). >> >>Let's have another rerun of the article that has Checkyloser all >>atwitter: >> >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in- >>portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors >> >>NPR Article: >> >>In President Trump's telling of it, Portland, Ore., is a city under >>siege by violent radical leftists. He has suggested that only the strong >>hand of federal law enforcement can save it. >> >>On Fox News this week, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf >>admonished state and local leaders there and elsewhere for failing to >>restore law and order, and he touted the administration's response. >> >>"We've seen about 300 arrests across this country regarding civil unrest >>and protest, violent protesting, I'd say criminal protesting, criminal >>rioting," Wolf said. "About 100 of those have been in Portland >>specifically, and I know the Department of Justice has charged about 74 >>or 75 individuals in Portland there with different federal crimes." >> >>But an NPR review of the federal cases brought in Portland shows that >>the majority of the charges are for what could be considered minor >>offenses. >> >>As of Aug. 28, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Oregon had charges >>outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest. >> >>Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for >>misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are >>not felonies. >> >>"A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a >>ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon. >> >>The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and >>class C misdemeanors. >> >>A class C misdemeanor is one step above a citation and is punishable by >>no more than one month in jail. In Portland, at least 19 people face >>class C misdemeanor charges for allegedly failing to comply with a >>lawful order. >> >>"That might be somebody who's in front of the federal courthouse, on the >>sidewalk, and an order is issued to disperse, and they didn't disperse >>or they didn't move away quickly enough," said Hay. >> >>The class A misdemeanor cases in Portland have typically involved an >>alleged assault of a federal officer but without physical contact. Such >>a case could involve, for example, verbally abusing an officer or >>pretending to throw an object. >> >>These sorts of misdemeanors are punishable by no more than one year in >>prison. >> >>Steve Kanter, a law professor and former dean at Lewis and Clark Law >>School in Portland, said the federal government's decision to arrest and >>charge people for offenses like failing to comply with a lawful order >>suggests that law enforcement officer were acting in a selective manner >>"to control and chill expression and activity." >> >>"There should be a clear dividing line between people who are trying to >>get their voices heard, fully protected by the First Amendment and the >>right to assemble," he said, "and people that engage unjustified >>violence against persons or property." >> >>Kanter said those who engage in violence and he made clear that there >>have been people in Portland doing exactly that should be prosecuted. >> >>The vast majority of the protesters in the city have been nonviolent, >>but some demonstrators have set fires, thrown projectiles and, in some >>instances, >>attacked federal officers. >> >>After Trump sent a surge of federal law enforcement to Portland in July, >>the area around the federal courthouse downtown for weeks was a battle >>zone at night as some protesters clashed with federal agents guarding >>the facility. >> >>Federal prosecutors have brought more serious felony charges against >>those they say engaged in the violence 20 cases as of late last week, >>according to NPR's review of the court papers. >> >>Those are primarily either assault of a federal officer or arson >>charges. One defendant, for example, >>is accused of hitting a deputy U.S. marshal with a hammer, while another >>allegedly struck a deputy U.S. >>marshal with a baseball bat. >> >>The president and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly blamed >>what they call left-wing radicals and members of the antifa movement for >>the violence in Portland and elsewhere. >> >>"I've talked to every police chief in every city where there's been >>major violence, and they all have identified antifa as the ramrod for >>the violence," >>Barr told CNN this week. >> >>"They are flying around the country We know people who are flying around >>the country," Barr said. "We see some purchases they are making before >>the riots of weapons to use in those riots." >> >>None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference >>antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy. >> >>In a few of the case files, there are references to apparent agitators. >>For instance, one defendant told authorities that he was handed a >>firework by a masked person in the crowd and told to throw it. >> >>But there is nothing more substantial in the federal court record in >>Portland at this point to support the attorney general's assertions. >> >>In the public record, the man suspected of fatally shooting a right-wing >>activist in Portland last weekend said he supports the anti-fascist >>movement but is not a member of it. >> >>The man, Michael Reinoehl, was killed Thursday night as law enforcement >>officers tried to arrest him. >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >>So, mostly citations and misdemeanors. >> >>"We report, you decide." > > You support rapists and looters. Squeaker the lying sack of shit won't back this up, of course, he's "jes' trollin' gov". I guess he doesn't think rape and looting is extremism, just like Checkloser doesn't think murder is extremism. We can play this game for weeks, when will you learn? -- -v https://theproblemisextremism.org
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