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| First post | 2025-03-22 23:39 -0700 |
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Re: Why Calvinism is false. Robert <robert@no.way> - 2025-03-22 23:39 -0700
Re: Why Calvinism is false. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-23 15:01 +0000
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Robert <robert@no.way> - 2025-03-23 13:26 -0700
Re: Why Calvinism is false. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-24 13:30 +0000
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Robert <robert@no.way> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0700
Re: Why Calvinism is false. .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:11 -0500
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Robert <robert@no.way> - 2025-03-27 22:48 -0700
Re: Why Calvinism is false. .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:26 -0500
Re: Why Calvinism is false. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-28 09:30 +0000
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:19 -0500
Re: Why Calvinism is false. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-24 13:31 +0000
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-24 10:13 -0400
Re: Why Calvinism is false. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-03-24 15:11 +0000
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:21 -0500
Re: Why Calvinism is false. Robert <robert@no.way> - 2025-03-26 19:26 -0700
Re: Why Calvinism is false. .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:09 -0500
| From | Robert <robert@no.way> |
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| Date | 2025-03-22 23:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Why Calvinism is false. |
| Message-ID | <vroabh$1mlvc$2@dont-email.me> |
On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > > This was enlightening. > > > > Calvinists discount that we are primarily... > > Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die > without Christian Baptism?" > > If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing > Calvinists. > > Dawn The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. --
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2025-03-23 15:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #3438336 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > >> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> This was enlightening. >>> >>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >> >> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >> without Christian Baptism?" >> >> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >> Calvinists. >> >> Dawn > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. > can baptism be done using virtual water?
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| From | Robert <robert@no.way> |
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| Date | 2025-03-23 13:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrpqqg$349pu$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438375 |
On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > Robert wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > > > > > On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > > > > This was enlightening. > > > > > > > > Calvinists discount that we are primarily... > > > > > > Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die > > > without Christian Baptism?" > > > > > > If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing > > > Calvinists. > > > > > > Dawn > > > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. > > can baptism be done using virtual water? For whom, and what purpose? --
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 13:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #3438429 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote > (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > >> Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>> >>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>> >>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>> >>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>> >>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>> Calvinists. >>>> >>>> Dawn >>> >>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. >> >> can baptism be done using virtual water? > > For whom, and what purpose? > oh, just asking for a friend.
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| From | Robert <robert@no.way> |
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| Date | 2025-03-26 19:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vs2cg7$33hf8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438539 |
On Mar 24, 2025, jojo wrote (Message-ID:<d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > Robert wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote > > (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > > > > > Robert wrote: > > > > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > > > > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > > > > > > > > > On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > > > > > > This was enlightening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Calvinists discount that we are primarily... > > > > > > > > > > Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die > > > > > without Christian Baptism?" > > > > > > > > > > If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing > > > > > Calvinists. > > > > > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. > > > > > > can baptism be done using virtual water? > > > > For whom, and what purpose? > > oh, just asking for a friend. Well, it has no value for spiritual reasons, and the parents usually bath their children anyhow. A baby cannot make a decision for itself, it lacks the capabilty. --
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| From | .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 07:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m4ktjeFbildU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3438924 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 24, 2025, jojo wrote > (Message-ID:<d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > >> Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote >>> (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): >>> >>>> Robert wrote: >>>>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>>>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>>>> >>>>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>>>> Calvinists. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawn >>>>> >>>>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. >>>> >>>> can baptism be done using virtual water? >>> >>> For whom, and what purpose? >> >> oh, just asking for a friend. > > Well, it has no value for spiritual reasons and the parents usually bathe > their children anyhow. A baby cannot make a decision for itself it lacks the > capability to stick a needle up its dick and call it a catheter. > Babies make decisions all the time. Crawl here crawl there eat this cry now wtf are you talking about? -- You're the future of fire You're the witness of war You're the irony of justice And the father of law Been waiting for awhile to meet you For the chance to shake your hand To give you thanks for all the sufferin' you command
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| From | Robert <robert@no.way> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 22:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vs5d6q$21rop$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438966 |
On Mar 27, 2025, v]andrak|≡... wrote (Message-ID: <m4ktjeFbildU7@mid.individual.net>): > Robert wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2025, jojo wrote > > (Message-ID:<d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > > > > > Robert wrote: > > > > On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote > > > > (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > > > > > > > > > Robert wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > > > > > > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > > > > > > > > This was enlightening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calvinists discount that we are primarily... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die > > > > > > > without Christian Baptism?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing > > > > > > > Calvinists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > > > > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > can baptism be done using virtual water? > > > > > > > > For whom, and what purpose? > > > > > > oh, just asking for a friend. > > > > Well, it has no value for spiritual reasons and the parents usually bathe > > their children anyhow. A baby cannot make a decision for itself' > it lacks the capability to stick a needle up its dick and call it a catheter. > Babies make decisions all the time. Crawl here crawl there eat this cry > now wtf are you talking about? Why can’t you speak rationally. --
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| From | .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 01:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m4mtotFleqiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3439102 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 27, 2025, v]andrak|≡... wrote > (Message-ID: <m4ktjeFbildU7@mid.individual.net>): > >> Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 24, 2025, jojo wrote >>> (Message-ID:<d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): >>> >>>> Robert wrote: >>>>> On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote >>>>> (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): >>>>> >>>>>> Robert wrote: >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>>>>>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>>>>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>>>>>> Calvinists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dawn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of >>>>>>> not. >>>>>> >>>>>> can baptism be done using virtual water? >>>>> >>>>> For whom, and what purpose? >>>> >>>> oh, just asking for a friend. >>> >>> Well, it has no value for spiritual reasons and the parents usually bathe >>> their children anyhow. A baby cannot make a decision for itself' > >> it lacks the capability to stick a needle up its dick and call it a catheter. >> Babies make decisions all the time. Crawl here crawl there eat this cry >> now wtf are you talking about? > > Why can’t you speak rationally. > This baby has made the decision to killfile you. -- You're the future of fire You're the witness of war You're the irony of justice And the father of law Been waiting for awhile to meet you For the chance to shake your hand To give you thanks for all the sufferin' you command
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 09:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <7fb85875-03a1-2c0c-669a-051f8c531258@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #3438924 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 24, 2025, jojo wrote > (Message-ID:<d44a8ad4-b66d-9084-514f-e44329ed1d2a@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): > >> Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 23, 2025, jojo wrote >>> (Message-ID:<458151f5-0785-6fc7-ec4b-922d59059606@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>): >>> >>>> Robert wrote: >>>>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>>>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>>>> >>>>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>>>> Calvinists. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawn >>>>> >>>>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. >>>> >>>> can baptism be done using virtual water? >>> >>> For whom, and what purpose? >> >> oh, just asking for a friend. > > Well, it has no value for spiritual reasons, and the parents usually bath > their children anyhow. A baby cannot make a decision for itself, it lacks the > capabilty. > i think you doing the virtual baptism would be better. its the same thing, electrons in water are the same as electrons online.
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| From | Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-23 16:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vrptsv$381ue$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438375 |
On 3/23/2025 10:01 AM, jojo wrote: > Robert wrote: >> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >> >>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>> This was enlightening. >>>> >>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>> >>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>> without Christian Baptism?" >>> >>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>> Calvinists. >>> >>> Dawn >> >> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. >> > > can baptism be done using virtual water? > You're getting funnier! Keep at it!! Dawn
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 13:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9aaec46f-9bf8-d1b8-efd0-0e52804cee13@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #3438446 |
Dawn Flood wrote: > On 3/23/2025 10:01 AM, jojo wrote: >> Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>> >>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>> >>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>> >>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of >>>> infants who die >>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>> >>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop >>>> criticizing >>>> Calvinists. >>>> >>>> Dawn >>> >>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been >>> baptized of not. >>> >> >> can baptism be done using virtual water? >> > > You're getting funnier! Keep at it!! > > Dawn thanks, i dont like getting serious, but sometimes in some places, people make me serious, and then they feel my wrath.
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| From | Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 10:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <182fc2ac60398b32$38405$3463108$72dd786b@news.thecubenet.com> |
| In reply to | #3438540 |
jojo wrote: > Dawn Flood wrote: >> On 3/23/2025 10:01 AM, jojo wrote: >>> Robert wrote: >>>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>>> >>>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>>> >>>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>>> >>>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>>> >>>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>>> Calvinists. >>>>> >>>>> Dawn >>>> >>>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of >>>> not. >>>> >>> >>> can baptism be done using virtual water? >>> >> >> You're getting funnier! Keep at it!! >> >> Dawn > > thanks, i dont like getting serious, but sometimes in some places, > people make me serious, and then they feel my wrath. > > Did Dawn Run my pal Ted off because of his proclivity for black ass sucking?
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 15:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ffd5ce0f-d601-ee98-22e9-4b1c9b6e462b@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #3438543 |
Rudy Canoza wrote: > jojo wrote: >> Dawn Flood wrote: >>> On 3/23/2025 10:01 AM, jojo wrote: >>>> Robert wrote: >>>>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>>>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>>>> >>>>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of >>>>>> infants who die >>>>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>>>> >>>>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop >>>>>> criticizing >>>>>> Calvinists. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawn >>>>> >>>>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been >>>>> baptized of not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> can baptism be done using virtual water? >>>> >>> >>> You're getting funnier! Keep at it!! >>> >>> Dawn >> >> thanks, i dont like getting serious, but sometimes in some >> places, people make me serious, and then they feel my wrath. >> > > > Did Dawn Run my pal Ted off because of his > proclivity for black ass sucking? i dont think so, ted might just be taking a break from his hobbies lol
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| From | Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-23 16:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vrpu03$381ue$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438336 |
On 3/23/2025 1:39 AM, Robert wrote: > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > >> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> This was enlightening. >>> >>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >> >> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >> without Christian Baptism?" >> >> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >> Calvinists. >> >> Dawn > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. > Glad that you said that now and not 500 years ago! Be thankful, Robert, that we do not live in a theocratic Christian society!! Dawn
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| From | Robert <robert@no.way> |
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| Date | 2025-03-26 19:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vs2d0b$33hf8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3438448 |
On Mar 23, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote (Message-ID: <vrpu03$381ue$6@dont-email.me>): > On 3/23/2025 1:39 AM, Robert wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > > (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): > > > > > On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > > > > This was enlightening. > > > > > > > > Calvinists discount that we are primarily... > > > > > > Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die > > > without Christian Baptism?" > > > > > > If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing > > > Calvinists. > > > > > > Dawn > > > > The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. > > Glad that you said that now and not 500 years ago! Be thankful, Robert, > that we do not live in a theocratic Christian society!! > > Dawn It has has alway been that way, since the time of Jesus. Only certain religious groups came up with that idea, and it is not scriptural, like purgatory, and its predecessor buying indulgences. The Rich were conned with indulgences, which left the poor with no way out if they did not follow God, so they came up with purgatory as their way to heaven. Only the rich could buy a get out of hell free card. --
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| From | .../v]andrak|≡... <jfwaldby@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 07:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <m4ktflFbildU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3438928 |
Robert wrote: > On Mar 23, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote > (Message-ID: <vrpu03$381ue$6@dont-email.me>): > >> On 3/23/2025 1:39 AM, Robert wrote: >>> On Mar 19, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote >>> (Message-ID: <vrfqcq$22lln$1@dont-email.me>): >>> >>>> On 3/19/25 5:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> This was enlightening. >>>>> >>>>> Calvinists discount that we are primarily... >>>> >>>> Ask them what I have asked you -- "What is the fate of infants who die >>>> without Christian Baptism?" >>>> >>>> If you can't or won't answer this question, then stop criticizing >>>> Calvinists. >>>> >>>> Dawn >>> >>> The fate of an infant is the same whether they have been baptized of not. >> >> Glad that you said that now and not 500 years ago! Be thankful, Robert, >> that we do not live in a theocratic Christian society!! >> >> Dawn > > It has has alway been that way, since the time of Jesus. Only certain > religious groups came up with that idea, and it is not scriptural, like > purgatory, and its predecessor buying indulgences. The Rich were conned with > indulgences, which left the poor with no way out if they did not follow God, > so they came up with purgatory as their way to heaven. Only the rich could > buy a get out of hell free card. > You're living in fantasy Danzig land. No one comes back from Hell. -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkoFImDpx_M
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