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Start Of Civilization

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From "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Subject Start Of Civilization
Organization wokiesux
Date 2024-09-29 03:41 -0400
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Legend has that, about 8000+ thousand years ago in a
little town called Eridu,now Kuwait, a 'god'-person
named "Enki" (pronunciation varies) sailed in "from
the east" who clearly explained the details of How To
Do Civilization.

This included useful agricultural tips, info on urban
planning, basic legal/political systems - everything
you needed to jump-start.

"Enki" and later some others, all came dressed in
weird 'fish-themed' clothing and supposedly hung
around for a few centuries.

There WERE other proto-civs, Sammara, a bit to
the north, for example. However they were just
'settlements' - did not initially have what it
took to be a 'civ'.

This whole area of mesopotamia was a LOT greener
that it is now. The ice-age was ending and that
brought a lot of rain, even vast floods, to the
area.

Eridu became THE Template - what others copied.
This led to the earliest big cities like Ur
and Uruk just to the north.

Who/what was "Enki" ? The flying-saucer nutters
think he was an alien.

However, the lands to the east - esp in the Indus
Valley in what's now Pakistan - also had everything
they needed to do modern civ. The civs there came
and went - and the climate has ERASED a lot of them.
I'm gonna posit that "Enki" was from the Indus valley,
a charismatic traveler eager to Spread The Word.

Those from the CLOSE east - the Elamites - were NOT
civil. Long after they trashed everything, ruined
Ur and Uruk.

SO - I'm gonna say that 'civ' actually started
in the Indus valley. Not HUGE civ, but at least
sophisticated civ. Evangalists then took the
ideas west.

Tell me I'm wrong.

There ARE signs that SOME kinds of civ existed
in Mesopotamia and nearby at LEAST 12,000+
years ago. The excavations of Gobekli Tepe
and relatively nearby identical sites takes
the def of 'civ' back at LEAST that far.
However it probably wasn't sophisticated civ,
didn't have the vital nuts and bolts, the
needed structure "Enki" taught.

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Start Of Civilization "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 03:41 -0400
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