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Re: In other news

From BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: In other news
Date 2023-11-26 04:30 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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References (22 earlier) <XnsB0A86A42D4A65Kamilot@135.181.20.170> <uibj9i$kd3j$1@dont-email.me> <XnsB0B6535C69F7BKamilot@135.181.20.170> <uje7hl$ltv$1@dont-email.me> <XnsB0C457013E1A7Kamilot@135.181.20.170>

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On 22.11.2023 14.33, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in news:uje7hl$ltv$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 08.11.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:uibj9i$kd3j$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>
>>>> On 25.10.2023 16.26, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:uh1foo$1vlmj$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18.10.2023 13.55, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:ug90u2$2i33j$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04.10.2023 16.13, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:uffg1i$35g2e$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 26.09.2023 14.11, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <beh.on.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:uesn70$22oon$1@dont-email.me: 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23.09.2023 23.14, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [---]
>>>>>>>>> [****]
>>>>>>>> [^^^]
>>>>>>> [%%]
>>>>>> [€€€€]
>>>>> [$]
>>>> [What kind $ - it's so generic. Also £££££]
>>> [!!!!!]
>> [þþþþ]
> [a string of non-utf8 characters]
[This newsreader is more advanced that I though. Look what it put
instead of your no utf8 characters]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here have some Gatorade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mmmmm... electrolytes. (I've never actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried Gatorade.) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think my Dad bought some in the 70's when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was green sea water. It's pretty gross.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the stuff they have now is full of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sugar. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, sports people need their energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a guess - it's mostly non-sports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who drink it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also the sports people/teams who are sponsored by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company, I bet. At least when they are on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teevee. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the Gatorade container is filled with water. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least that's what it looks like when they dump it on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the winning coach. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One would hope so, given the stickyness of sugary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drinks... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you never know...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That may be what happened to that Spanish womens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> football coach... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got drunk on fermented Gatorade and kissed one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe he was covered in sticky Gatorade and unwittingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was sticking to the players mouth...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should send these excuses to him. For a fee.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To late now. He has already been 'released'...
>>>>>>>>>>> Still. There might be a hearing. Or a charge in 20 years when
>>>>>>>>>>> the player is suddenly traumatized by a repressed memory.
>>>>>>>>>> There have been very little opportunity to repress any memory
>>>>>>>>>> in this particular case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You don't know.
>>>>>>>> I read the news. I'm confident in my statement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see that Big Brother is back for it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25th season. Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But of course it is... It's what the people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People are stupid!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gatorade contains a lot of electrolytes...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (guess the reference for the chance to win a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modest prize) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idiocracy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup! I'll mail you a gold star...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YAY! I hardly get any snail mail anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is so exciting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hang on. I need to find a stamp... I'm sure there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are some around here somewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm so excited. I never win anything. I have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pee! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know what they say: You can't win unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play. Maybe you should start doing some sportsball
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something... After you are done peeing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't picture me playing team sports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are types of sportsball where you play alone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (against an opponent, obviously). Also without team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sport you don't get to imbibe the team spirit...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. I get that at work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oohh! do you get to go on retreats and play stupid games
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too? (Made up by a genuine behaviourist sociologist.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before COVID, we had stupid team building exercises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One time a manager brought in a bag of carrots and tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get us all to go outside and make a snowman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was in winter, one assumes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're so SMRT.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a natural inference.
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't want to point out the difficulty in making a snowman
>>>>>>>>>>> in non- winter months. WORSE.TEAM-BUILDING EXERCISE.EVER.
>>>>>>>>>> I dunno. It challenges the participants' ingenuity... Also if
>>>>>>>>>> it's hot a good deal of co-operation is required.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck finding snow in July.
>>>>>>>> *opens freezer* *forms ball from sediments*
>>>>>>>>> I'll be at the pub if anyone needs me.
>>>>>>>> Oh, there you are... *throws*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ow!
>>>>>>> Why'd you pelt me with a giant ice ball?
>>>>>> It wasn't that giant - and to show what can be accomplished if one
>>>>>> put their mind to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess you don't have a frost-free freezer then.
>>>>>> It would do much good if it was... freezing wise.
>>>>> All of my freezers are frost-free.
>>>>> They keep things frozen while preventing frost build-up.
>>>> But ice crystals are an inescapable consequence of freezing moisture
>>>> in the air. Do you never open your freezer or is it dehumidifying
>>>> somehow - hopefully without unfreezing the water and everything
>>>> else? Maybe you have a vary large silica bag in your freezer.
>>> I have no idea how it works. It just does.
>>> Magic!
>> A theory for sure. Only magic isn't real. Condensation is. It's a
>> conundrum. 
>>
> Why must you rain on my parade?
Magic is like religion - the Devils work!!

> It is magic like when you open the fridge and stick your head in, the 
> light goes on.
You have a strange fridge. Mine turns on the light when the door opens.
No head insertion needed. Also the light has a rational explanation.
Look it up if you don't believe me.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another manager had a stuffed animal that each person was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to take home for the weekend and then share the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toys adventures with the rest of the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invasion of privacy if I ever saw it. Mind, if it had been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me the stuffy thing would most likely have experienced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing laundry and watching telly. Very adventurous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My adventure would be: Merlyne spends entire weekend trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find an identical animal after BF's dog shreds the toy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why, though. It would be a dramatic adventure at least. And
>>>>>>>>>>>> you would spare your remaining colleagues the effort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or the trauma when they find out that the beloved mascot is
>>>>>>>>>>> no more. Anyays, I never brought the toy home so I got to
>>>>>>>>>>> spend my weekends doing fun things like laundry and watching
>>>>>>>>>>> tv. 
>>>>>>>>>> You aren't really very good at that whole team spirit thing,
>>>>>>>>>> are you? 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Besides the fact that my parents raise me to be an individual,
>>>>>>>>> I really can't get into lame party games and things of that
>>>>>>>>> nature. 
>>>>>>>> But.. It's designed to demonstrate that things work better if
>>>>>>>> you cooperate. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some things work well, some things don't.
>>>>>>> I think I can decide when I need help.
>>>>>> Consider that the other team-workers may not be so self-sufficient
>>>>>> and may need the exercise to be confident that they can ask you
>>>>>> for help when needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They already knew that because I'm super nice!
>>>> It could be a new co-worker who don't know you very well. Or only
>>>> know you from your meeting rants.
>>> So I should end rants by saying that my door is always open?
>> If you think people are still paying attention to what you say by
>> then. Maybe you should start with that.
>>
> Ok. Noted.
Please report any progress in this matter.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During COVID, they tried a bunch of virtual events
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they think we are retarded 6 year olds. Show 'n'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell, anyone? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember most of the stupid tasks we were given at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those sessions. Most of they were to do with working as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team, and everyone was faffing about getting nowhere until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone took charge and started giving orders. More often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I care to remember someone being me - just to get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing over with. Great way to consolidate respect for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> section managers and such who was doing their fair share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of faffing. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The formal team building thingees that I've been to have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> facilitator who gets the ball rolling. Sometimes literally.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was at one where participants were not allowed to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they were holding the ball.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that's pretty typical. I think they use something
>>>>>>>>>>>> similar in pre-school...
>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense. They treat us like we are retarded 6 yr olds.
>>>>>>>>>> To be fair the 'talking stick' (or ball, whatever) is an
>>>>>>>>>> ancient method of keeping order in assemblies - predating the
>>>>>>>>>> mute-button by many centuries.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm in favour of it.
>>>>>>>>> Of course the way things are these days, using the 'mute'
>>>>>>>>> button on someone would be viewed as a microaggression and
>>>>>>>>> would require everyone to attend a meeting about how
>>>>>>>>> microagressions are wrong. 
>>>>>>>> Talking over each other is also a microagression. You are going
>>>>>>>> to need more meetings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>> I remember when microaggressions were about racist or sexist
>>>>>>> things... 
>>>>>> But that sort of things don't happen any more...?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not to me, it doesn't.
>>>> Well, who would be racist towards the fecking irish?
>>>
>>> The English?
>> Yeah, but to be fair, the Irish spent 300 years stubbornly refusing to
>> be subjugated. That is no way to instil kindly neighbourly feelings.
>>
>>> Americans treated the Irish like crap.
>> Aren't the americans all irish anyway? Irish or italian?
>>
> I don't think so.
> https://www.infoplease.com/us/race/ancestry-us-population-rank
> 
> I find it interesting that in 2000 and 2015 people reported their 
> ancestry i.e. German, Irish etc but in the 2020 Census, they reported 
> themselves as 'White'.
But they didn't. The questionnaire for the 2010 census did not have room
for specification beyond "White" if that was the answer. The 2020
questionnaire did. The 2015 specification of nation of origin in your
link must come from somewhere else.
Interestingly in 2000 there was a question about national origin but not
connected to the primary question on race.
Anyway they are all 'Merkans anyway.
Also no questions anywhere about how many guns are in the household. How
are the government conspiracy to take away all the guns ever going to
work if they don't know where they are?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do show Colombo (again) but late at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night and I still remember all the plots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from last time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember all the Columbo plots.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter since they show you who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did at the beginning of the show. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but Colombo is more about howdonit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than whodunit... and Colombo pretending to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be dumb but really being very smart of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And one more thing...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, it must have slipped my mind for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have Acorn and BritBox now so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catch up on all my British murder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows. I feel with the writer and actor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strike that there may be a long tv show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drought. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get BritBox as well (on that streaming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service). They have Yes Minister/Prime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minister. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never watched that one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a good introduction into how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gubbernment *really* works... sort of. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish Good Omens and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch the latest season of The Witcher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next season of The Wheel of time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts September 1. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did see a Canadian police series in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> french. It had all the right characters:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a neuro-divergent sketch artist with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'amazing' abilities, - a wheel-chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bound, female chief always wearing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baseball cap, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a young arab gay forensic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigator, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a semi-alcoholic older detective who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broke all the rules (violently) - a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle aged female researcher, who was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former elite hacker. And that was just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Good 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys(tm). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know that one. I used to watch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'District 31' when I was on language
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> training. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Portrait Robot' in Canadian. ('The Sketch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Artist' in 'danish'). I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'District 31' but I do have a Belgian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series of all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things, all about sex-crimes.. in Flemish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And speaking of programming, I wrote a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python program today without taking a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea you were a parseltongue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I had to do something after I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed out of wizard school. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that even possible. I thought you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just have to take the year again. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become Key Warden or something. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But eventually they found out that I'm too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stupid to be a wizard. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that even possible? I thought it's an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innate ability for those whom it is gifted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm more of a Rincewind type of wizard or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gifted at all. Smoke and mirrors!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar. Or _a_ familiar for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what the cats are for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no cat. Also no wizardry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a cat. It does what it wants.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm somewhat familiar with the behaviour of cats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not familiar with the rules of being a familiar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me either. But that's okay since I'm not a cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of these day I'm gonna install the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ADA pre-compiler for gcc again and think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of something to code in it... Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a lot of things happening at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you won't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will. Some day...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right after you build that water feature in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your yard, I'm sure. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I won't be able to work on the water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature in winter, so I could do the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installing then. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that when you are painting the living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room? *snickers*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No that was this spring, theoretically... Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next spring. Some time when I can keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doors and windows open. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should learn Python so that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nitpit my code. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What made you think that I don't know Python?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I don't, but still) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a calculated risk. It was created after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you left school and were a fully functioning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adult with a regular day job. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yebbut I was reasonably capable of learning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several programming languages for many years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after that. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As did I.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think once MS took over the workplace, most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people learned VB. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And some probably even learned a programming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language as well. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I usually end up teaching myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas I on several occasions ended up teaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't taught anyone to program, but I do end up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewing other people's code. I get questions about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'How do I do thing X?' I have one programmer who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't program from scratch. I usually have to meet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with him and outline step 1, step 2 etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you are supposed to learn that in programmer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school...? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think his degree is in Philosophy or History or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something non- programming. How he got into this line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of work, I'll never know. He told me his dream job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be to work on video games. He would die in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably. How he got the job: probably the same way as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else - lied on his resume...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be impressed if that were the case. This one has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 0 initiative. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you could assign him to go to all the meetings...?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just tell him to say "No".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't speak at meetings. Then he would come back and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't remember what went on at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make him a sign that says 'NO' to bring. Or better yet a
>>>>>>>>>>>> t-shirt. Then he won't forget to display it. The important
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing is to have the 'NO' represented.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try that. He will think I'm joking and laugh.
>>>>>>>>>> As long as he doesn't laugh during the meeting. You don't want
>>>>>>>>>> the other participants to think it's a joke.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He laughs at meetings when I go off on a rant.
>>>>>>>>> But then a lot of people do. 
>>>>>>>> Mute them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why? I like the attention.
>>>>>> Doesn't it interrupt your train of thought having people laugh in
>>>>>> the middle of your rant?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah.
>>>>> I can always start over.
>>>> That's not going to make the total time wast^W spent in meeting any
>>>> shorter now, is it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You should have thought about that before you interupted me.
>> I would never laugh at someone mid-rant. I know from painful
>> experience it will only prolong the outburst.
>>
> 
> Painful? It's entertaining and makes the meeting go faster.
It does not. A rant often result in someone suggesting a break (to let
the tempers settle and also so I can have a smoke), after which the
meeting continues - mostly completely ignoring the rant and any
potential substance therein.
As for painful: A ranter interrupted is almost always a ranter
reiterating their point from the top or some variation thereof.
Rants are rarely helpful.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Also you can read about the proceedings in the minutes on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the intranet. Probably.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not usually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes people write 10 pages of code to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something when all they need is the coalesce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that more an unwillingness to RT(F)M?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one does that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always did. And it served me well on many occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More people should RTM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You lost the F!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If one RTM before it becomes am urgent necessity there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no F involved. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which never happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You think I'm the only one to ever read a manual?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Or least when it's not urgent.
>>>>>>>>>> Tsk-tsk. What is the world coming to...
>>>>>>>>> How about you read the manuals and then give me an executive
>>>>>>>>> summary about them?
>>>>>>>> You mean as in teamwork? Co-operating for better efficiency like
>>>>>>>> you learned at the seminar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I learnt nothing at the seminar.
>>>>>>> I snuck out at the bathroom break.
>>>>>> Tsk-tsk. I guess you'll have to read the manual yourself then.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What made you think I can't nitpick any code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a position of relative ignorance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But really. Code is code. The symbols may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different but logic is forever...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's what I keep telling coworkers who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panicking about having to learn Python or R. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can program, you can do it in any language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just have to learn to syntax. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And memorise all the function libraries, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course... Piece of cake. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah. I mean the stuff I use often will get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engraved in my mind. Anything else, will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googled. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But... your productivity!!1!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All pensionable time!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they want me to be more productive, they need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get me more staff and stop assigning me extra work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your productivity isn't going to increase if you run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of work to do. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That will never happen. When we are understaffed, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have time to focus on my own work. All the work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to be distributed amongst the existing staff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Delegation is work, though. Particularly if you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a delicate balanacing act.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why wearing heels to work is a bad idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely wobble less in flat shoes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of several reasons why I never wore high heels to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heels are my way of elevating myself aove the frey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus I'm 5'5".
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, shorty...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that USian slang for GF?
>>>>>>>>>> Not that I've heard/read. I believe it's slang for a short
>>>>>>>>>> person. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> shorty or short�ie [ shawr-tee ]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> noun,plural short�ies.
>>>>>>>>> a person of less than average stature (sometimes used as a
>>>>>>>>> disparaging and offensive term of address).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a garment designed to be of short length, as a hospital bed
>>>>>>>>> jacket. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also shaw�ty  [shaw-tee] .Slang.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a girl or woman:
>>>>>>>>> We watched the shorties on the dance floor, all lookin' so
>>>>>>>>> fine. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a girlfriend or sweetheart:
>>>>>>>>> Me and my shorty went to that new club over on Ninth last
>>>>>>>>> night; what a scene!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> adjective
>>>>>>>>> noting a garment designed to be of short length:
>>>>>>>>> a shorty nightgown; shorty pajamas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't keep up with all the slang the young people use these
>>>>>>>> days. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should.
>>>>>> It changes too fast for me in all the languages - in any case I
>>>>>> was never on fleek even when I was younger. I was rather fetch,
>>>>>> though, if I say so myself.
>>>>> *eye roll*
>>>>> Fetch is never going to happen, Gretchen!
>>>> Some dogs like it, I think.
>>>>
>>> Maybe they want us to think that.
>> No, I'm sure they genuinely enjoy the fetching part. It's the letting
>> go after having fetched they are somewhat ambivalent about.
>>
> My dog fetches the ball/stick/whatever and then runs away.
IOW it can't keep cleaning up your mess. It has important stuff to do.

>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I'm average height for caucasian women.
>>>>>>>>>> The average height for women in DK is 167cm (5'5.75").
>>>>>>>>>> I know this because the news told me - the height requirement
>>>>>>>>>> for joining the royal guard has recently been removed because
>>>>>>>>>> it discriminated against women. The requirement for women was
>>>>>>>>>> higher than average height while the requirement for men was
>>>>>>>>>> lower that average men's height.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These are the important decisions that occupy the high
>>>>>>>>>> command. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I'm average height for a woman in DK. I'll blend in nicely
>>>>>>>>> when visiting your water feature, stele and pile of guano.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure. I was hoping for a lot of japanese tourists, though. They
>>>>>>>> are more likely to buy my tacky plastic souvenirs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm getting a vibe that you don't want me to visit :(
>>>>>> I don't expect you to buy any of my tacky plastic souvenirs.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying that so I'll want them?
>>>> Not at all. I mean they are strictly limited issue. And eminently
>>>> collectible as well a "decorative". But it's entirely up to you if
>>>> you feel you need to buy some before they are all gone - and
>>>> probably being sold on e-bay for 50-100 times the original price.
>>>> Think beany babies but more exclusive.
>>>>
>>> Ah. FOMO.
>>> Huge marketing tool.
>> Yes, but in my defence: at least it isn't NFT's.
>>
> I think the bottom fell out of that market.
Yap. And now we watch all the block-chain currencies from a safe distance.

>>>>>>> So you need to launch an advertising blitz in Japan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They changed the requirements for fire-fighters here so that
>>>>>>>>> more women could join. I can hardly wait to be rescued from a
>>>>>>>>> burning building by a 96 lb woman.
>>>>>>>> Well, maybe if you stopped playing with fire you wouldn't need
>>>>>>>> rescuing all the time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The leprechaun tells me to burn things.
>>>>>> Contrary to popular opinion leprechauns don't as a rule have your
>>>>>> best interest at heart. Don't listen to the leprechaun.
>>>>>>
>>>>> But, but...they have that pot of gold.
>>>>> (And me lucky charms)
>>>> And they aren't inclined to part with either, so I've heard.
>>>>
>>> Stupid leprechauns!
>>
>> That sort of outburst aren't going to help your negotiations with the
>> leprechauns. Just saying.
>>
> I didn't know I was negotiating.

Do you want your breakfast cereal back or not?

-- 
BeH

" We are trapped by language to such a degree that every attempt to
formulate insight is a play on words." - Niels Bohr

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