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From: Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: Area codes in Cumbria
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:37:08 +0100
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David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> writes:

> On 30/09/2026 10:27, Scott wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 21:23:47 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 22:34:09 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/phones-telecoms-and-internet/information-for-industry/numbering/other/national-numbering-plan.pdf
>>>>
>>>> 1.  I didn't know Telex still existed (page 15)
>
> It doesn't.
>
>>>> 2.  Just skimming through, the 6 digit codes seem to be in Cumbria
>>>
>>> Claude says:
>>>
>>> 013873	Langholm	Scotland (Dumfries and Galloway)
>>> 015242	Hornby	Lancashire (Lune Valley, near Lancaster)
>>>
>>> The rest of them are in Cumbria.
>> Thanks. It was a quick skim on my part, as I mentioned. Could
>> Langholm
>> and Hornby be 'serviced' out of Cumbria? This seems to be a bit of a
>> coincidence. Why would a small number of exchanges have 6-digit STD
>> codes?
>
> Don't theses things all "vanish" at the end of the year? When everyone
> is on VOIP it doesn't matter where they are serviced from. OFCOM says
> it intends to maintain the link between "area codes" but permit "out
> of area use" but I am not sure what the rules are.
>
> Dave

B3.1.1 mentions this.

"A Geographic Number shall be assigned only to a Subscriber whose Network
Termination Point is physically located within the geographic area
associated with that number (having regard to the relevant Geographic
Area Code), unless:

"a. the Subscriber has requested a Geographic Number that includes the
relevant Geographic Area Code; and

"b. charges for calls to that Geographic Number remain consistent with
charges for calls to other Geographic Numbers that include the same
Geographic Area Code.
"

According to Claude this facility goes back a long way, 2011 or 2003
maybe, but documents are not available from before that (when Oftel was
the regulator).