Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,uk.telecom.mobile Subject: Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:16:46 +0100 Lines: 77 Message-ID: References: <34s*Wcl3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <356e4lxn89.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net jBOSLMkMlxpyfjKCS4RZiAFGmKr3DxfjlbwSU0WOPWxp1O2rNR X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:7bFKsruA8jdictfez4R2kYB1TV8= sha256:ujPExRYePZjqYnpQnF9iVGoY2wGBQGhxv7EOCBHTRtw= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:192576 comp.mobile.android:145960 uk.telecom.mobile:45491 On 2024-12-31 23:25, Dave Royal wrote: > "Carlos E.R." Wrote in message: >> On 2024-12-31 22:15, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: >>>>>>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. >>>>>>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >>>>>>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), >>>>>>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be >>>>>>>>> accessed from anywhere. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver >>>>>>>>> - I've not tried that) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works >>>>>>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an >>>>>>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP >>>>>>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to >>>>>>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on >>>>>>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a >>>>>>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also >>>>>>> work on Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only >>>>>> PTP. >>>>> >>>>> That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in >>>>> PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in >>>>> the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP >>>>> mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). >>>> >>>> Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost >>>> never do. >>> >>> Of course you don't use it in that mode, I don't either. It's just a >>> *test* to determine if an *iPhone* is likely to work in the same way. >>> From your positive test result, it's likely that an iPhone will work as >>> well. >> >> I just by chance tried it minutes ago, and of course it worked. >> > > FWIW if I connect my iPhone (8) to Linux (SuSE) it mounts DCIM > as a gvfs filesystem under gvfsd-fuse. In thunar it appears as a > gphoto2: URL. So I see images and videos taken by the camera. > Unlike with Android, that's all I can access. Ah. Thanks, that's the information that was missing. -- Cheers, Carlos.