Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: David Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:59:37 +0000 Lines: 86 Message-ID: References: <67b2055b$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <67b227aa$1$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <67b22cd2$14$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net qJIkjiXQvm0SN/ESnFk4SwSW6f7gJse9nB4sPexK3MAD4Vjq2u Cancel-Lock: sha1:PBBQS+S+bnu0kq+CuPiTx+khdCs= sha256:lkxsXVdNDkBOkr05I4qyowwrmxcXpxJqc0hLBeuedZA= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <67b22cd2$14$15$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Xref: csiph.com uk.comp.sys.mac:180217 On 16/02/2025 18:22, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Feb 16, 2025 at 11:17:11 AM MST, "David" wrote > : > >> On 16/02/2025 18:00, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 10:17:56 AM MST, "David" wrote >>> : >>> >>>> On 16/02/2025 15:33, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> On Feb 16, 2025 at 3:25:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>> >>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>> >>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>> >>>>> Didn't that come from an email? And it was quarantined. Not sure what good >>>>> erasing the hard drive will do. >>>> >>>> Regardless of where it came from, ClamXAV reported it as malware. >>> >>> Sure. From what I can tell, sitting harmlessly in an email until it was >>> quarantined. >> >> The whole point of a Trojan is that they *DON'T* "sit harmlessly!"' > > Did you ever run the app? I've no idea! >>>> If >>>> someone was/is using an Apple computer WITHOUT such an anti-malware >>>> software running, they'd nver know that a Trojan had been installed on >>>> their computer. >>> >>> What makes you think it was installed? >> >> It's what Trojans *DO*! > > They do not install themselves... just as in the lore for the Trojan Horse. > They use social engineering to get the user to install them. Are you SURE about this? >>>> *Understanding Trojan Viruses and How to Get Rid of Them* >>>> >>>> //Basic online scenario—You log onto your computer and notice that >>>> something’s just not right, but you can’t quite put your finger on it. >>>> Something just seems…a bit off. If you’ve found yourself in this >>>> situation, or even thinking you are, there’s a real possibility you >>>> could have a Trojan virus on your computer. >>> >>> Did you have that? >> >> Yes, I have had! (Not now though, on my clean machine!) > > What was happening? Unexpected things occurring and sometime slow. >>>> Trojan viruses can not only steal your most personal information, they >>>> also put you at risk for identity theft and other serious cybercrimes. >>>> In this post, we’ll examine what Trojan viruses are, and where they come >>>> from. We’ll also cover how you can protect yourself and get rid of >>>> viruses so you can stay safe and maintain peace of mind online.// >>>> >>>> https://www.mcafee.com/learn/understanding-trojan-viruses-and-how-to-get-rid-of-them/ >>>> >>>> NOTE >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Erasing one's hard drive SHOULD remove the Trojan! ;-) >>> >>> It will... as will the anti-malware software. >> >> You don't *USE* anti-malware software!!! > > Your image showed otherwise: YOU ARE CONFUSED AGAIN! > https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png