Path: csiph.com!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.alt.net!not-for-mail From: owl Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics Subject: Re: I simply enjoy it too much, as Americans do. Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 16:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: O.W.L. Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <8lmgedt11fl4m> <2h8hed1gpld5c9s6r8mrn8uifkk0r2saa8@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: boom.rooftop.invalid X-Face: $BHf)vM$6p_?9L`jmOQ54JeNyL+%MZGGRfH8&grb[Y%-jU`MCPAQN=/SVDa{(/67bP(YB}rjV^h>cUh User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:450062 sci.physics:683346 In comp.os.linux.advocacy Snit wrote: > On 5/2/18 9:21 AM, owl wrote: > ... >>>>> Poverty actually DOES, overall, lead to obesity: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OR >>>> >>>> No, bad food decisions lead to obesity. Still waiting for your >>>> example of a starving obese person. >>> >>> See: this is you rejecting evidence... pretending obesity is ONLY about >>> food choices and that it is not tied to poverty, even though the >>> evidence (this study and others) back such a link. >> >> Obesity is a choice. > > It is not that choice does not come into play, but as the evidence shows > (and there is plenty of it) it is not that simple. > > You want a single, black and white answer that blames those who are > overweight. > It is black and white. Excess calories = fat. Take in more than you need for maintenance or adaption to increasing workload, and you gain fat. Do that for long enough, and you become obese. > I want to go with the evidence. > > I do not think we will find common ground. > >> You can spend your ten dollars on a few candy >> bars, bag of chips and a couple of 2-liter softdrinks, or you can buy >> a half-gallon of milk, a small box of multi-grain cereal, a bunch of >> bananas, and a couple cans of tuna. >> >>> The pattern here is common: I go with the evidence, you go with what you >>> WANT to be true. >> >> Do you have any explanation for the fact that rich people can also >> get obese? How is that even possible if what you say is true? > > I have not said, suggested, hinted, or implied that wealthy people > cannot be obese. > Your claim was that poverty is the cause of obesity.