Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: 1st Mars Colonists Should Be 'Prepared to Die,' Elon Musk Says Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 05:25:48 -0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 89 Sender: Jim Pennino Message-ID: References: <2p8bcd-afc.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="db4120ef82bbc153014637d4cd15a795"; logging-data="18540"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18mE3FiM5MM1X4dGyYidzut" User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.10 (i86pc)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JPtr85tMAnyjkBtC/XHf6xBpUn0= Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:453025 sci.physics:599503 alt.astronomy:286575 In sci.physics Don Bruder wrote: > In article , jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > wrote: > >> In sci.physics Don Bruder wrote: >> > In article , jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >> > wrote: >> > >> >> In sci.physics Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:41:18 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> >>In sci.physics David DeLaney wrote: >> >> >>> On 2016-10-04, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>>> In sci.physics David DeLaney wrote: >> >> >>>>> On 2016-10-03, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> It is difficult to conceive of anything making the Earth more >> >> >>>>>> uninhabitable >> >> >>>>>> than Mars. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Parts of the Earth already are, dear. People send scientific and >> >> >>>>> military >> >> >>>>> expeditions there anyway. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Where on the Earth would you have to wear a pressure suit to live >> >> >>>> more >> >> >>>> than a few seconds and have to have your food, air and water shipped >> >> >>>> in >> >> >>>> from millions of miles away? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "On"? No. "Millions"? no, but fairly difficult and time consuming for >> >> >>> each and >> >> >>> every shipment. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hint: Arthur Curry was a native. >> >> >> >> >> >>On the surface of the Earth, scifi besotted child. >> >> > >> >> > Arthur Curry is better known as Aquaman. He's talking about under the >> >> > ocean -- which is certainly "parts of the Earth." >> >> >> >> Yes, I know, thus my scifi besotted child comment. >> >> >> >> When rational adult people talk about living somewhere, they are generally >> >> talking about living above ground and above water. >> >> >> >> Assuming someone for some arcane reason wanted to live under water on >> >> Earth, doing so is technically and logistically trivial. >> > >> > Since it's so technically and logistically trivial, I'm sure that means >> > you'll be moving into your new underwater condo sometime in the next few >> > days? >> >> What in your wildest fantasies makes you think I, or anyone else, would >> want to live under water? >> >> If I were to live anywhere in the least bit unusual, it would be in >> a wilderness area with my own runway. >> >> > If not, I submit that you haven't got a clue as to the realities >> > involved, and are talking out your ass. >> > >> > (Free hint, Jimmy: If it was so trivial, there'd be quite a few >> > extremely crowded places that would be jumping at the chance to ease >> > their population pressure by offloading some of it to underwater >> > habitats. So where are they?) >> >> Utter horse shit. >> >> In extremely crowded places they build tall buildings, as is done >> in Hong Kong. >> >> There is a difference in techically trivial and expensive. > > ROTFL! > > Jimmy, first rule of digging yourself into a hole: When you find that's > what you're doing, the best thing you can do is STOP DIGGING! You've > just gone from mind-bogglingly clueless to utterly laughable! With this > post, you actually caused me to LOL at how total your absence of > knowledge on the topic you're arguing about is! Thanks! I needed a good > knee-slapper! Still nothing but arm waving and ad hominem. -- Jim Pennino