Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx03.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Subject: Re: Global Climate Change Effort Looks for Reboot After Stalling Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.politics.guns,alt.checkmate References: <1nvg117.1v403l6sewlouN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> From: Lunar Opticfibre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 76 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:58:44 -0600 X-Received-Bytes: 4394 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2266630273 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:703852 talk.politics.guns:1119783 alt.checkmate:206774 On 9/21/2018 10:27 AM, % wrote: > On 2018-09-20 10:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics % wrote: >>> On 2018-09-20 5:02 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> In sci.physics Nadegda wrote: >>>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >>>>> melt! >>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:48:58 +0000, chimp chittered: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Nadegda wrote: >>>>>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >>>>>>> melt! On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:44:32 +0100, Sn!pe wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Checkmate wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>       [some fake pundit scribbled] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your diesel tank meanwhile has an energy density of 32 MJ/L >>>>>>>>>> but the >>>>>>>>>> tank to wheels efficiency is a quarter of the EV's, so what >>>>>>>>>> actually gets to the wheels is only 8 MJ/L, which is less than >>>>>>>>>> four >>>>>>>>>> times what the EV can deliver ... and shrinking, since EV >>>>>>>>>> batteries >>>>>>>>>> are improving rapidly but diesel tanks are diesel tanks are >>>>>>>>>> diesel >>>>>>>>>> tanks, >>>>>>>>>> a fat, stationary target. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you don't count all the inefficiency from converting fossil >>>>>>>>> fuel >>>>>>>>> energy into chemical energy, then into electrical energy, then >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> mechanical energy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We were originally discussing only tank-to-wheels efficiency and >>>>>>> ignoring well-to-tank. But, now that the topic has broadened ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not to mention electricity transmission losses and the cost (both >>>>>>>> monetary and in energy and resources terms) of providing the >>>>>>>> charging >>>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And meanwhile we're just supposed to completely ignore the cost of >>>>>>> lugging all those fossil fuels *physically* to the individual gas >>>>>>> stations? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the time to charge the battery >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Almost instant, with new battery and charging technologies that are >>>>>>> coming down the pike. >>>>>> >>>>>> Utter nonsense, would violate the laws of physics and there are no >>>>>> available materials to let you get even close. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-21/new-technology-could-help-to-charge- >>>>> >>>>> your-iphone-instantly/10021086 >>>> >>>> An iPhone is not a road vehicle. >>>> >>>> Do you understand the concept of power, i.e. the amount of energy >>>> transferred per unit time? >>>> >>>> Do you understand the relationship of voltage, current, and power? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> yep >> >> Then you understand charge time is limited by current density. >> > what are you getting at He wants to charge you for your time.