Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:501432 sci.physics:710042 sci.physics.relativity:475752 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-vm.kithrup.com!kithrup.com!djheydt From: djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) Subject: Re: DNA test results Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:45:02 GMT References: <5BD3E262.11E9@ix.netcom.com> Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ld. X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Lines: 85 In article , benj wrote: >On 10/27/2018 4:57 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> In article , >> Ninapenda Jibini wrote: >>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >>> news:pH9sBC.1sH1@kithrup.com: >>> >>>> In article , >>>> Ninapenda Jibini wrote: >>>>> benj wrote in news:pr0tvm$1gl9$3 >>>>> @gioia.aioe.org: >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/26/2018 11:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> i can buy a DNA test at Walmart... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but, but... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but what would it find? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> maybe i got some....cousins who are monkies? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> maybe, maybe... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I got some Martian ancestors! >>>>>>> >>>>>> Would find large amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Bozo. >>>>>> >>>>> You're an optomist, aren't you? >>>> >>>> Many, if not most, people of European descent have a *little* >>>> Neanderthal DNA. >>> >>> That was not the insult I was aiming for. I have doubts that >>> Starmaker's DNA is that close to vertebrate, much less mammal. >> >> Well, s/he's got to have fingers, at least. And probably, eyes. >> >> So likeliest, s/he's either a vertebrate or a cephalopod. >> >> Caution: thread drift ahead ... >> >> There's an episode of _Doctor Who_ called "The Lazarus >> Experiment." The eponymous Professor Lazarus, at the age of 76, >> invents a gizmo that reduces his age to thirty or so (I could >> look up the actor's age at the time of filming, but I won't). >> But the technique is unstable, and he keeps morphing into a >> mixture of humanoid and scorpion. >> >> And the Doctor says, "He's regressing back to an ancestral form." >> >> But vertebrates are deuterostomes, and arthropods are protostomes >> (look them up at your leisure), and to find a common ancestor you >> would have to regress back to the Urbilaterian (look him up too), >> which no one has found any traces of, though some of the >> Edicarian fauna *might* serve, if we had more specimens. >> >> So every time I watch it, and it's one of my favorite episodes, I >> keep muttering, "It's not *science* fiction, it's Doctor Who." > >So with nothing better to do I take your advice and start to look up >your jargon: > >Wikipedia: > >"Deuterostomia is a subtaxon of the Bilateria branch of the subkingdom >Eumetazoa , within Animalia, and are distinguished from protostomes by >their deuterostomic embryonic development ; in deuterostomes, the first >opening (the blastopore ) becomes the anus , while in protostomes, it >becomes the mouth ." > >Well that's enlightening...not. >Say, wait! What is that last sentence? Yes, I am starting to get it. >Gastric reversal is clearly a Starfaker trait... No, it's a characteristic of ALL echinoderms and chordates. You, me, and the sea urchin. -- Dorothy J. Heydt Vallejo, California djheydt at gmail dot com www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/