Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: 2electronorbital.GIF Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 21:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <36582d01-f1ca-4430-bfb7-2c9829475baf@googlegroups.com> <17ddbdb9-7e1f-43b1-83c9-5898b484c6ac@googlegroups.com> <840bf207-fca1-4bc2-9f0f-0de537f1a0d8@googlegroups.com> <58991d62$0$10736$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> <70343ec5-5388-4272-a6f5-0b8e7d9bfe8b@googlegroups.com> <4cbc1a77-92ce-4aa4-b393-4f3df6fe6a58@googlegroups.com> <3b97577f-1552-4976-91be-3846ea0a10a6@googlegroups.com> <01adfbf4-14d8-451d-bdd8-603543f623ca@googlegroups.com> <7e208705-63cf-4818-9d29-9292a1bbe35d@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1486590250 5131 192.74.137.71 (8 Feb 2017 21:44:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 21:44:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:617618 john writes: >You see no contradiction between >'fundamental' >and 'delocalized'? Of course not. "Delocalized" just means there is no permanent assignment of an electron to any particular atom/nucleus in a molecule. No contradiction with that and being fundamental. The electron is influenced by all atoms in the molecule. You even do that in your spinny thing benzene animation. You show electrons going from one atom to another. >"In chemistry, delocalized electrons are electrons in a molecule, ion or >solid metal that are not associated with a single atom or a covalent bond. >The term is general and can have slightly different meanings in different >fields." >Yes, whatever meaning they need. >Kinda like DM- one size fits all Go read the Wikipedia pages on Molecular orbitals, Molecular orbital theory and Molecular orbital diagrams. Assuming you actually want to learn something rather than be ruled by your precessing spinny thing OCD.