Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ezra Farrow Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Do neutrinos really have masses? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Minimal Dubtechno Frequencies Mix Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <82375ff4-303d-4fbc-9c82-b1c7eca5d3f9@googlegroups.com> <_4CdnQgx-e-YiPbLnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <40edbed1-a8d8-4da7-b466-1e308365b0c5@googlegroups.com> <8_-dnWQ4DN8mDPPLnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com> <2qKdnW-8Ga77-O_LnZ2dnUU7-I-dnZ2d@giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: B07b6yuGGavqMZENc0BNhg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4 (DEC-OS) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:540032 sci.physics.relativity:372312 Odd Bodkin wrote: > On 12/18/2015 1:00 AM, Poutnik wrote: >> Vacuum is what remains in space-time when we remove matter with mass >> from it. > > If space-time is a MODEL, then how can a real vacuum live in it? > If space-time is something real, then what is the physical distinction > between the vacuum and spacetime? Absence of pressure. Spacetime assumes one atm pressure (does not forbids it). Pressure comes only due the neighbourhood of matter. Hence you cannot have a spacetime. Wrong product declaration.